Why Charter Oak State College is better than Thomas Edison State College

[KittenMittens]

If you think it is a waste of time, why then do you insist on wasting other people's time.

Cheating on PF courses.

It has already been pointed out to you that TECEP's are not the only way to meet the requirements for "per credit plan"

How is reading a book any longer than taking a course somewhere (if you don't cheat) again...SOME people might enjoy reading a book over taking a course.

You keep attacking something you actually have no knowledge of and make way too many assumptions.

I don't think anyone has a problem with your degree plan, but you insist on giving out information that is not accurate and based on your huge assumptions. Like I said early, it may be better to approach it with just factual information regarding COSC. Maybe others would appreciate it more, and it would be of more benefit to people. That is just a suggestion from me and I will leave you to it now

It’s sloppiness on the part of PF if they just use test banks that can be searched on google. PF even outright plagiarizes questions from other sources. Even without them, and for myself, I never needed to cheat since the questions were so easy. You get to retake each of the 5 quizzes twice for the highest score. Penn Foster’s stuff is so easy they could hardly be considered a course, more like “mini courses.” And despite all the rampant cheating going on with their materials, Penn Foster still fails to do anything about it - and their low standards is probably why they're not regionally accredited but nationally accredited. Fortunately, their courses are ACE certified so RA colleges do accept them.

The only practical ways you can meet the 24 credit residency requirement cheaply is by taking TECEPs, or coursework through TESC (and I think maybe Portfolio - but that is generally such a horrible option for most people because you have to spend a few hundred bucks to maybe get some credit - which is a big if). Practically no one here is interested in doing PLA (because it'd cost too much money for little credits likely) or coursework (which would cost several thousand dollars).

Most people tend to think that textbooks are dry, long, boring, sometimes poorly written, and so on. If you think reading a 1000 page book is more effective than using a concise, easy to understand, to the point review guide, then you’re living in a different world than I am as far as I’m concerned. Like I said, I’d wager most students want to complete credit as easily as possible, quickly as possible, and cheaply as possible. Reading a 1000 page book is the exact opposite of that. I really can’t debate this point any further as it’s you either agree with it or you don’t.

What information have I given out that was inaccurate? I’ve provided data, sound reasoning, and explanations that line up with that data. You’re just stating I’m wrong without backing it up - you’re giving opinions without any evidence. You were wrong about not having to take TECEPs through the “per credit” plan. There are some general underlying presumptions I made which are that most students are interested in getting a degree quickly, cheaply, and rapidly as possible with the least amount of effort/path of least resistance. That most students would rather read 1 page to pass an exam rather than read 1000 pages. That most people are interested in getting a degree to get a better paying job hence so many people going back to college in their 30s and 40s upon feeling the pressure to have a college degree to remain competitive in the job market i.e. the college degree has replaced the high school degree as the new entry level degree - that’s not really up for debate as far as I’m concerned.

Solid data What speaks volumes is your choosing to ignore ALL the people that have repeatedly told you how easy they found TECEPs.

You keep attacking something you actually have no knowledge of and make way too many assumptions.

Maybe you struggle with statistics as you've indicated in a previous thread, but it's significant enough to note that at least 10 people have complained about TECEPs, there is a consensus that many if not most of the TECEPs require you to read a textbook from cover to cover, only 2 people commented easy they found TECEPs (one who did 2 of the easiest 100 level ones possible, the other who claimed he can take a lot of exams and pass aka not the typical student), the instantcert forum where people either state you have to read the textbook from cover to cover, state that they are difficult or time consuming to study for(as I've shown above), or the lack of flash cards for them, the lack of prep materials, and lack of student submitted test information on the instantcert.com website.

You keep on making bold statements without backing them up - and you are claiming that "I have no knowledge about these things" without any solid examples besides N = 2.

Anyways, I've addressed this sufficiently, and even broke down what the general synopsis for studying for each UExcel or TECEP exam was like. Hint: The UExcels covered by InstantCert.com are generally passable in a few hours/few days with minimal prep versus the TECEPs where you have to prepare a lot longer in general. There are a lot of TECEP threads, but barely any comments in there, whereas there's a lot in the UExcel ones.

I can't make it any more obvious... and if you have trouble reconciling these differences, then that's something you have to deal with.

If you think it is a waste of time, why then do you insist on wasting other people's time

If I'm wasting your time, then don't read what's in here... No one's forcing you to participate. This statement you made is just rhetorical and your arguments are becoming personal, so I'll take my leave now.