12-28-2014, 03:20 AM
Thank you. I actually talked to COSC last month about the Child Studies. They actually told me they don’t know how it would work with transferring in with that from an out of state AS in Child Development/ECE from California. They would have to see my coursework done when Im done with the whole program, my college’s catalog, state requirements, and how many hours of student teaching Ive done and how that can work with their higher level requirements in trasnfering student teaching with them, and not even sure how they can factor in the student-teaching practicum into the course work at all. Even the “Human Development” class might be different than the one they require to take to meet their state /degree standards. I have the e-mail..it’s basically a big “we don’t know how or if it can work” lol. Most that take concentrate at COSC in Child Studies live in Connecticut and it's pretty much designed for Connecticut or local residents going into licensed teaching so they cover all the state requirements for Connecticut. They can offer me the GE: Child Studies basic concentration but can’t guarantee it would satisfy state requirements as some states (like California even) require certain classes to be taken (like Human Development.) Since California only requires an AA in Child Development (which covers all the required “8 core” courses and required student-teaching time) a BS in ECE isn’t even needed. But, move to another state, and it can be a whole different ballgame. In fact in Arizona the ECE requirements would require a licensed ECE in California to spend another whole year in school to take their required coursework for licensing since their ECE goes up to the 3rd grade and ours is only Pre-School while Kindergarten to 3rd is considered regular elementary school education. University of Phoneix turned me down (I was only interested and requested more info - I wasn't much into that college) saying they only offer online degrees in ECE for Arizona residents only.
I also hear ya about “studies.” I went to CC and do have an AA already. I remember the administrators, even still in our H.S. today, being very clear. Anything with the word “studies” especially stand alone isn’t good. Unless it’s going into teaching, you have a set job and just want a BA/BS, or transferring to university with major to be declared later, otherwise it lacks merit. I was told the word "science" has pull though. I hear it all the time which is why I’m trying to stay away from “General Studies in General Studies.” General Studies, Liberal Studies, Women Studies, Ethnic Studies, in S.F. the colleges actually offer a degree in “Gay and Lesbian Studies.” Not much you can do on a job interview when you say “I have a degree in Gay and Lesbian Studies.” Art History Studies. Not going to land you that big job in the business field lol. I know some degrees outside of their field won’t work.
Actually in CA you can have a BA in anything to teach. Liberal Studies is the main area because it covers certain require student teaching requirements and classes. But to take and pass the CSET (after taking/passing the CBEST and some other exams) and taking on a state required internship, there’s no set major requirement unless going into high school teaching which requires a “single subject” certification. Actually, I don’t have desire to full time teach in public elementary school. I work in a public school district now in non-teaching classifications, and teaching is an unstable field. We’re laying off more elementary teachers then bringing on each year with state budget cuts, school closings, and classroom combinations being implicated. California is a mess. Our District already sent out notifications that three schools might be shut down at year end (July 1st) because of low enrollment with half of those teachers at those schools not tendered enough to be retained next year. LAUSD has laid off something like 1,000+ teachers over the last five years. You have more stability as a sub teacher or secondary teacher then elementary. The janitor has more job safety then a teacher here. Private school teaching is a whole different area and don’t require most of the required credentials and degrees like you said since they’re not state funded so dont require state credential standards which is why I was/am interested in Child Studies, but the pay is SO LOW that it seems almost non-survivable on unless you have second income or a spouse income. This is the reason not to get into teaching in California unless you live in a small district or have a back up plan: Hearings Begin for LAUSD Employees Who Received Layoff Notices | NBC Southern California
My AA Liberal Arts covered the above. I had to take various of courses in NS, BS, SS, Humanities, and Fine Arts (like Theater, Art History, Philosophy, etc). I shouldn’t have any trouble transferring in those courses. They had to be evenly done from all areas. I'd just have to do the upper division requirements on top of the few BS GE requirements. I'll take those at the CC since it's cheap and I perfer class over CLEP if I can.
Im guessing Excelsior is more expensive then the others. I didn't know that. I just know they have a very liberal transfer in policy of credits which is why I was interested. I started basic email communication with them and from what I got they take just about anything, no matter how old. CCSC I like but everything seems to be "General Studies in..."
So, yeah, I’m looking at all options. Like I said…my concern is if I move to another state (it’s come up)or decide maybe I just want to go back into working in the office (I was trained to be an office manager at our district if I wanted that job) that “Child Development” or “Child Studies” isn’t going to look so good and send the message I only know about the study of Children. Heck, why couldn’t I be smart enough to just be another Business or STEM major lololol. I’m bad at math especially higher end math. I was an A student in English and English Lit! lol. Truth is Los Angeles is filled with unemployed Art History and English Lit majors. Actually...Theater Arts is the biggest one. Because of Hollywood we have a lot of people (Im guilty too...lol) that started their major in Theater or Cinema Arts that most of them end up with an AA or BA in Theater Arts but unemployeed. So Im leaning towards "science" at the end and not Studies or Art. Thinking about it...liberal arts seems to be moving to my out category and social sciences or something else...or even still possibly CD is still in.
I also hear ya about “studies.” I went to CC and do have an AA already. I remember the administrators, even still in our H.S. today, being very clear. Anything with the word “studies” especially stand alone isn’t good. Unless it’s going into teaching, you have a set job and just want a BA/BS, or transferring to university with major to be declared later, otherwise it lacks merit. I was told the word "science" has pull though. I hear it all the time which is why I’m trying to stay away from “General Studies in General Studies.” General Studies, Liberal Studies, Women Studies, Ethnic Studies, in S.F. the colleges actually offer a degree in “Gay and Lesbian Studies.” Not much you can do on a job interview when you say “I have a degree in Gay and Lesbian Studies.” Art History Studies. Not going to land you that big job in the business field lol. I know some degrees outside of their field won’t work.
Actually in CA you can have a BA in anything to teach. Liberal Studies is the main area because it covers certain require student teaching requirements and classes. But to take and pass the CSET (after taking/passing the CBEST and some other exams) and taking on a state required internship, there’s no set major requirement unless going into high school teaching which requires a “single subject” certification. Actually, I don’t have desire to full time teach in public elementary school. I work in a public school district now in non-teaching classifications, and teaching is an unstable field. We’re laying off more elementary teachers then bringing on each year with state budget cuts, school closings, and classroom combinations being implicated. California is a mess. Our District already sent out notifications that three schools might be shut down at year end (July 1st) because of low enrollment with half of those teachers at those schools not tendered enough to be retained next year. LAUSD has laid off something like 1,000+ teachers over the last five years. You have more stability as a sub teacher or secondary teacher then elementary. The janitor has more job safety then a teacher here. Private school teaching is a whole different area and don’t require most of the required credentials and degrees like you said since they’re not state funded so dont require state credential standards which is why I was/am interested in Child Studies, but the pay is SO LOW that it seems almost non-survivable on unless you have second income or a spouse income. This is the reason not to get into teaching in California unless you live in a small district or have a back up plan: Hearings Begin for LAUSD Employees Who Received Layoff Notices | NBC Southern California
My AA Liberal Arts covered the above. I had to take various of courses in NS, BS, SS, Humanities, and Fine Arts (like Theater, Art History, Philosophy, etc). I shouldn’t have any trouble transferring in those courses. They had to be evenly done from all areas. I'd just have to do the upper division requirements on top of the few BS GE requirements. I'll take those at the CC since it's cheap and I perfer class over CLEP if I can.
Im guessing Excelsior is more expensive then the others. I didn't know that. I just know they have a very liberal transfer in policy of credits which is why I was interested. I started basic email communication with them and from what I got they take just about anything, no matter how old. CCSC I like but everything seems to be "General Studies in..."
So, yeah, I’m looking at all options. Like I said…my concern is if I move to another state (it’s come up)or decide maybe I just want to go back into working in the office (I was trained to be an office manager at our district if I wanted that job) that “Child Development” or “Child Studies” isn’t going to look so good and send the message I only know about the study of Children. Heck, why couldn’t I be smart enough to just be another Business or STEM major lololol. I’m bad at math especially higher end math. I was an A student in English and English Lit! lol. Truth is Los Angeles is filled with unemployed Art History and English Lit majors. Actually...Theater Arts is the biggest one. Because of Hollywood we have a lot of people (Im guilty too...lol) that started their major in Theater or Cinema Arts that most of them end up with an AA or BA in Theater Arts but unemployeed. So Im leaning towards "science" at the end and not Studies or Art. Thinking about it...liberal arts seems to be moving to my out category and social sciences or something else...or even still possibly CD is still in.
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