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Gov. Shutdown?
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ncpenn Wrote:The answer is that people must have that morality in them (Love your neighbor as yourself). If/when that is the case, for-profit medicine either works or doesn't exist. Elderly are taken care of by those closest to them (not the gov't). Etc, etc, etc . . .

But, here's the monkey wrench in the whole thing. Morality can't exist (for long) in a vacuum. Morality to work requires absolutes and the concept of absolute truth. Otherwise it's okay for me to hurt you if my "relative morality" allows it. Society cannot define morality anymore than thousands of particular premises could ultimately prove a universal conclusion. (Some a is b will never lead to an All a is b conclusion no matter how many "Some a is b" statements are added. Only from a universal premise can you get a universal conclusion. Therefore, to have absolute morality that society conforms to, you must have an absolute standard).

So, to have morality, you must have absolute truth. Absolute truth must come only from an absolute being (as shown above, society cannot be the basis). No man or any other mortal being is absolute . . .

In short, religion is necessary for things to work properly (and a religion that believes in an absolute being). Then of course, the question becomes, which one? Wink

Coincidentally, I just watched this video yesterday regarding the same topic.



The further our nation drifts from God the more things seem to fall to pieces. The Golden Rule can only go so far in regards to morality. During the fight for gay marriage last year everyone kept saying that if you love each other, why shouldn’t you be able to get married? That seemed hard to refute without bringing up religion. But if that's the case, what argument could one have against incest, pedophilia, or polygamy? I'm sure one day people the people in California will get those wheels rolling as well. Let the moral drift continue...
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Gov. Shutdown? - by quasarvs - 10-15-2013, 11:37 PM
Gov. Shutdown? - by UptonSinclair - 10-16-2013, 12:06 AM
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Gov. Shutdown? - by Jonathan Whatley - 10-16-2013, 07:59 AM
Gov. Shutdown? - by Tedium - 10-16-2013, 08:21 AM
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Gov. Shutdown? - by jmeitrem - 10-16-2013, 01:49 PM
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Gov. Shutdown? - by ncpenn - 10-16-2013, 09:50 PM
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Gov. Shutdown? - by sanantone - 10-22-2013, 03:36 PM
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Gov. Shutdown? - by Jonathan Whatley - 10-23-2013, 12:19 PM
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Gov. Shutdown? - by sanantone - 11-06-2013, 02:52 PM
Gov. Shutdown? - by Jonathan Whatley - 11-06-2013, 04:24 PM
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