10-17-2013, 07:53 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-17-2013, 11:59 AM by Jonathan Whatley.)
quasarvs Wrote:Simply reading a few sentences of this online Magazine Mother Jones tells me its view point is not exactly level either.
If you wish to call a spade a spade make sure your own cards are named accurately.
You can't judge a notoriously conservative person like Glenn Beck, using a notorious liberally-biased magazine like Mother Jones and expect a fair evaluation.
I didn't mean to cast any doubt or aspersion on Hannity or Beck because they're conservative. I'm very ready to listen to conservatives, present company included. I do question Hannity and Beck's crying wolf about coming economic apocalypse because that's exactly what paid spokesmen for a gold company would cry. As for the Mother Jones article, on page 1:
Stephanie Mencimer, in Mother Jones Wrote:Such coziness between spokesman and sponsor is not uncommon on talk radio, where hosts can be paid to personally recommend just about any product. In fact, liberal hosts such as Ed Schultz and Thom Hartmann have advertised gold.
The criticism here is that Hannity is biased about economic alarm not as a conservative, but as a paid spokesman for a gold company. I think the criticism stands independent of Hannity's politics and Mother Jones'.
quasarvs Wrote:In my experience as a conservative, I believe that I can trust Sean Hannity's view-point and that it will agree with my own on various particular issues. Of course I know he's biased, but not only do I know he's biased, but I believe he's right in his bias opinions.fwiw, I'm not a Bill Maher fan at all. I don't share his anti-religiousness, his vaccine denialism is wrong and dangerous, and he's personally nasty. Granted, he's an adult comedian, but not my thing.
Not to say that it isn't foolish to take other people's word for it, but if I'm going to get snippets of news then I'd rather get it from him versus Bill Maher.
quasarvs Wrote:Okay the Congress gets its funds for running the government from us the people, so we need and some of us have demanded a budget.We agree here.
quasarvs Wrote:The President in a difficult position? He started this whole thing with the huge hike in taxes that would come with Obamacare.Congress passed the ACA (Obamacare) and Congress sets taxes. A clean vote in both houses of Congress today clearly wouldn't repeal the ACA, repeal it in large part or delay it in large part. Supporters of the ACA, Democrats and two Independents, hold a clear majority in the Senate. Seems to me a grown-up way to deal with this would be for conservative opponents of the ACA to campaign against the law and hope to win over enough Senators – or Senate seats – not to stomp their feet and refuse to fund the government today.
quasarvs Wrote:And has been unwilling to make compromises by sticking to debt ceilings, creating a budget, drilling here and now for natural energy and all sorts of other solutions that could relieve debt.
• Sticking to debt ceilings: The debt ceiling is based on commitments by Congress to pay for obligations Congress has already assumed. United States debt ceiling (Wikipedia).
• Creating a budget: The President's Budget for Fiscal Year 2014 (White House Office of Management and Budget).
• Drilling here and now for energy: President Obama in his 2013 State of the Union Address: "[T]he natural gas boom has led to cleaner power and greater energy independence. We need to encourage that. And that’s why my administration will keep cutting red tape and speeding up new oil and gas permits. (Applause.) That’s got to be part of an all-of-the-above plan. But I also want to work with this Congress to encourage the research and technology that helps natural gas burn even cleaner and protects our air and our water."
quasarvs Wrote:Is Obama, going to do anything to release the pressure of crippling debt?????
In the State of the Union, he speaks to this at length within the first few minutes. "Our work must begin by making some basic decisions about our budget -- decisions that will have a huge impact on the strength of our recovery. Over the last few years, both parties have worked together to reduce the deficit by more than $2.5 trillion -- mostly through spending cuts, but also by raising tax rates on the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans. As a result, we are more than halfway towards the goal of $4 trillion in deficit reduction that economists say we need to stabilize our finances. Now we need to finish the job." He goes on to discuss tax reform and entitlement reform including containing health care spending.
quasarvs Wrote:And a lot of young people say, "But politics divides people". Ya know what though? There is a time and a place for
everything including politics and if you don't make time for it, it won't make time for you. You will lose out in the end.
The problem tho, is that its a shared responsibility so not only you will lose but also the people you love.
If you want to help people this is one way to do it: BE INFORMED and INFORM OTHERS.
We agree here again. I try to do these as best I can too.