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Gov. Shutdown?
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As to the thread itself:

This shutdown I he result of a dysfunction that goes back at least a decade. You have a Democratic party that has gotten so emboldened and arrogant that it feels it can do as it pleases. Likewise you have a GOP that feels that it too can do what it wants because they're still convinced they have the moral high ground. Ask a member of either party why they do what they do and their reply will always be "well the <insert other party> does it too."

That right there should tell you that neither group has anything relevant to say. The ACA was a cluster%^$# of a bill rushed through by an arrogant majority. But the GOP response has been no better. The biggest problem I have though is this: The ACA WAS passed, legitimately (even if you don't agree with it, no rules were broken). It was upheld by the Supreme Court. Now a minority in Congress decided that the democratic process shouldn't matter. That's not a good thing. Do we really want a system where, no matter how much support something has and no matter if it was passed democratically, that any one person can simply say "well we don't like it"? That's not democracy, that's how things work in China. Further, the GOP had chances to do other things to stop it but instead waited until the day before Obamacare was implemented to do this. That tells me this is nothing more than a show. And again, for those who support Mr. Cruz and his bypassing of our system of government, you might like this idea now, but will you like it next year when say, Nancy Pelosi shuts the government down because she doesn't like a Republican supported bill?

I doubt it.

If you hate the ACA, blame the GOP. They're the ones who threw away not one but TWO elections, including one AFTER ACA's passing. Now we have a broken government being controlled by despots who think that they're way is the only way and to hell with everyone else. We've got the Democrats ruining healthcare with a half-assed bill and Republicans exploiting the people (this business with exploiting all of these veterans for political points is disgusting). And both parties have their respective media mouthpieces (Dems have MSNBC, GOP has Fox) spinning it for them.

And that's another thing: the media shouldn't support parties. Again, that's how things work in China or Iran. This is America.
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Gov. Shutdown? - by quasarvs - 10-15-2013, 11:37 PM
Gov. Shutdown? - by UptonSinclair - 10-16-2013, 12:06 AM
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