07-27-2011, 03:29 AM
Seriously?
You are using coal miners as an example of entitlement mentality?
One of the most dangerous jobs there are?
Jobs that mine local communities, devastating the people and their environment and giving very little back to them, so that you and I sit in comfortable air conditioning?
Seriously?
I don't equate how much someone should earn with a degree. I think that's part of the problem in our economy. So whether a coal miner has "higher education" does not negate at all whether he has legitimate entitlement to a living wage commensurate with demand, skill, and risk of his job. They are not ignorant hicks undeserving of a decent wage just bc they don't work behind a desk. It's work that very few people can do for long. They get cancers. They get injuries. Frankly, I put coal miners right up there with fire fighters. Maybe higher.
So. I'm willing to entertain that previous generations might have had entitlement attitudes, but using coal miner unions as a jump off for that argument isn't going to work. Pick another union generality to spring from and I might concede some valid reasoning.
You are using coal miners as an example of entitlement mentality?
One of the most dangerous jobs there are?
Jobs that mine local communities, devastating the people and their environment and giving very little back to them, so that you and I sit in comfortable air conditioning?
Seriously?
I don't equate how much someone should earn with a degree. I think that's part of the problem in our economy. So whether a coal miner has "higher education" does not negate at all whether he has legitimate entitlement to a living wage commensurate with demand, skill, and risk of his job. They are not ignorant hicks undeserving of a decent wage just bc they don't work behind a desk. It's work that very few people can do for long. They get cancers. They get injuries. Frankly, I put coal miners right up there with fire fighters. Maybe higher.
So. I'm willing to entertain that previous generations might have had entitlement attitudes, but using coal miner unions as a jump off for that argument isn't going to work. Pick another union generality to spring from and I might concede some valid reasoning.
M.
Mom of 11
Graduated 6, still home educating 5
Credits from CC classes:
eng 1113 freshman comp 1
eng comp 2
pos 1113 american fed gov't (political sci.)
spa 1103 spanish 1
bio 2123 human ecology
his 1493 american history civil war era - present
phi 1113 intro to philosophy
soc 1113 intro to sociology
total credits 24 hours
gpa 3.12
Mom of 11
Graduated 6, still home educating 5
Credits from CC classes:
eng 1113 freshman comp 1
eng comp 2
pos 1113 american fed gov't (political sci.)
spa 1103 spanish 1
bio 2123 human ecology
his 1493 american history civil war era - present
phi 1113 intro to philosophy
soc 1113 intro to sociology
total credits 24 hours
gpa 3.12