Excelsior - NYU Foreign Language Exam?

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My native tongue is french (Canadian), and I did not have any problem taking the CLEP or the ACTFL as far as acceptence of credit with Excelsior or acceptance to take a test.

The ACTFL interviewer was from France, but once we agreed on using standard French, there was no slang impediments.

Note that I did not take those credits as a depth, but rather as an easy source of elective credits.

Yes, I know that Excelsior is cool with it, but for me it turns out to be a depth problem. My alternatives for completing the second depth are equally or more complicated and expensive than going for language credits.

I had not considered the NYU paper test exam seriously until now because I deem it risky: you can take (and pay the full $400) 16-credits exam (12+4) but according to the web site, if you don't get the full 12 LL credits on the first part of the exam, they won't even score the second part (the 4-UL credits essay). I'll have to go for it anyway because it'd resolve my problem but only if I get a perfect score. I trust my abilities but I just don't like the setup: simply risky...

I didn't consider the ACTFL OPI a problem because I'm a native speaker (France) but a Canadian interviewer would have been OK too: I have lived in Canada and I'm used to the Canadian accent: I can even deal with joual

W.

[NAP]

Yes, I know that Excelsior is cool with it, but for me it turns out to be a depth problem. My alternatives for completing the second depth are equally or more complicated and expensive than going for language credits. .....

Someone here may know how to get 1 UL French language credit.

Do you have access to an advisor to brainstorm with them about how to get the 1 UL credit you would need for this depth?

I have seen some surprising combinations for depths, such as Stats as part of a psychology depth.

If you can’t find that credit, some of the “easier” depths to build through mostly exams are psychology, history, math, and computer science. Let us know, if we can help you with some of those ideas.

Were you planning a BA in Psychology? If so, you will only need one depth, but the Computer Science depth suggestion will not work for a BA.

[TMW2010]

I have seen some surprising combinations for depths, such as Stats as part of a psychology depth.

Actually, I wouldn't say its suprising at all, now that I'm more familiar with the subject. I wouldn't even be suprised if they accepted Stats in an CJ depth as well, to be honest.

Large parts of the two subjects are research and analysis, and Stats is intrinsic to both.

But I digress. As far as 1 UL credit in a language.. Hmm.. The only way I can think of doing this is maybe checking out what ACE approved courses are out there, because I know you can get credit for Berlitz courses and such, but those tend to be expensive, but might fit the need.
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Nah... I did talk with an advisor, but I end up being short a couple credits here or there to satisfy the depth when I look at other options. Typical "6-of-one-kind or half-a-dozen of the other" situation

"Were you planning a BA in Psychology? If so, you will only need one depth, but the Computer Science depth suggestion will not work for a BA."
Yes, it's a BA in Psy, but the advisor was positive that if I wanted to satisfy the second depth requirement with language credits, they need to be all language. She didn't mention that with a Psy major I needed only one depth though. It doesn't appear to be the case.

I'll bite the bullet and go for the NYU exam. Because of the nasty scoring method, it's a bit risky as I have mentioned before, but if I get the maximum number of credits it would satisfy the depth requirement and save me an extra CLEP or DANTES exam. I'll make contingency plans, just in case...

TMW2010, Berlitz indeed has an OPI verbal phone exam. It costs around $400 if memory serves. I know that because Ashford Uni uses them and I had checked it out when I was looking around. ACE does not grant credits for that particular exam though (I could be wrong on that).

Thanks for the suggestions,

W.

[NAP]

Nah... I did talk with an advisor, but I end up being short a couple credits here or there to satisfy the depth when I look at other options. Typical "6-of-one-kind or half-a-dozen of the other" situation

"Were you planning a BA in Psychology? If so, you will only need one depth, but the Computer Science depth suggestion will not work for a BA."
Yes, it's a BA in Psy, but the advisor was positive that if I wanted to satisfy the second depth requirement with language credits, they need to be all language. She didn't mention that with a Psy major I needed only one depth though. It doesn't appear to be the case.

I'll bite the bullet and go for the NYU exam. Because of the nasty scoring method, it's a bit risky as I have mentioned before, but if I get the maximum number of credits it would satisfy the depth requirement and save me an extra CLEP or DANTES exam. I'll make contingency plans, just in case...

TMW2010, Berlitz indeed has an OPI verbal phone exam. It costs around $400 if memory serves. I know that because Ashford Uni uses them and I had checked it out when I was looking around. ACE does not grant credits for that particular exam though (I could be wrong on that).

Thanks for the suggestions,

W.

All of the Liberal Arts degrees need 2 depths, but a major or area of focus will count as the first depth. You should have that with psychology, so we just need to figure out the second depth.

If French is your native language, is there a way to maximize credits for English as a foreign language ACTFL (or other exams or credits) instead? There may be an easier way to get that extra UL credit through English.

[WeAintGotNoBadges]

All of the Liberal Arts degrees need 2 depths, but a major or area of focus will count as the first depth. You should have that with psychology, so we just need to figure out the second depth.

If French is your native language, is there a way to maximize credits for English as a foreign language ACTFL (or other exams or credits) instead? There may be an easier way to get that extra UL credit through English.

Right, this is only the second depth that I need to satisfy. I pretty much checked the other options thoroughly though. But I didn't think of applying English as a language: now that's creative thinking! milelol:

I can use these 16 NYU credits though, so I'll go for it End of June is the plan.

W.

[TMW2010]

Yeah, it looks like all the Berlitz courses are level '1' courses, that grant 6 ll credits... I swear I thought I saw another of the language companies in the ACE list... Ah well...

[NAP]

.....But I didn't think of applying English as a language: now that's creative thinking! milelol: .....

Well, even if you won't be able to use it, I'm glad you like the idea so much!

Maybe someone else will figure out a way to get a depth in English.

P.S. Congratulations on your UExcel success!

[NAP]

How does BYU compare to CLEP?

BYU is less expensive.

Are the 12 credits for the BYU exam all-or-nothing (pass/fail)?

How do the passing scores compare? For the CLEP 50 out of 80 is 6 credits and mid-60’s is 12 credits. What type of score is required for 12 credits for the BYU exam?

Thanks wb.john for finding this option!

[wb.john]

How does BYU compare to CLEP?

BYU is less expensive.

Are the 12 credits for the BYU exam all-or-nothing (pass/fail)?

How do the passing scores compare? For the CLEP 50 out of 80 is 6 credits and mid-60’s is 12 credits. What type of score is required for 12 credits for the BYU exam?

Thanks wb.john for finding this option!

You're welcome!

At first I thought it was all-or-nothing, but reading further on their website led me to believe that it depends on how high you score.

I'll know more about what score equates to how many credits after some time.

The BYU's disadvantage is that it's a correspondence exam. So it's a little troublesome to schedule and you have to wait to get your score.

NAP, do you think you'll take any of these BYU exams?