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Fastest and cheapest way to get BAS or Bs CS for International Student
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(06-24-2024, 10:27 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(06-24-2024, 09:42 PM)davewill Wrote:
(06-24-2024, 02:51 PM)zFranco Wrote: Hey Dave! I prefer a Comp Sci degree or applied science, not really interested in a business degree right now. 
I completed business coursework in my country but it seems it's not so easy to use that for U.S. colleges and might need a lot of translation work/costs.

I wouldn't say a lot. There are services that do that work, you just have to pick one that the school you're targeting accepts.

If you really want CS, then look at TESU. You can get most of the CS coursework done at Sophia and Study.com. It will cost you about twice the budget you've outlined, but what good is saving money by getting the wrong degree?

I agree with Dave. I have completed 2 bachelor's degrees at UMPI including the MIS and PM minors. Neither one really prepares you for a career in those fields. If you want CS, then go with TESU. You can learn different programming languages, databases, systems, etc in far more depth than you will at UMPI.

Thanks for your comment!
Yes, there is no doubt CS path at TESU is more specific. Anyway, honestly, it doesn't seem like a huge difference to me as all of this is like basic knowledge. As I said, I've been working for the past 3 years at SWE and those subjects are pretty basic and it's stuff I use it every day at work. Maybe a master goes deeper and could make a difference in the future, hoping I can go further.
Right now I'm thinking that maybe I could do both? A lot of overlap and won't take that long, and isn't huge money (even if I don't have much cash right now  Tongue )
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And that's the reason for my previous posts, you're getting a balanced mix/match trifecta of certs, degree, experience to strengthen your application or portfolio for either furthering your education or furthering your footprint in your current career. I don't think the TESU BACS will do too much for you since you're already in the field, Software Development or Engineering. You'll do fine with the Pierpont BOG AAS, UMPI BAS, and you can ladder to the MAOL, what that achieves is, just the papers to acknowledge your education, your experience is where it'll showcase your skillset. When the time comes, go for the UMPI MAOL to move up the ranks!
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(06-25-2024, 08:10 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: And that's the reason for my previous posts, you're getting a balanced mix/match trifecta of certs, degree, experience to strengthen your application or portfolio for either furthering your education or furthering your footprint in your current career.  I don't think the TESU BACS will do too much for you since you're already in the field, Software Development or Engineering.  You'll do fine with the Pierpont BOG AAS, UMPI BAS, and you can ladder to the MAOL, what that achieves is, just the papers to acknowledge your education, your experience is where it'll showcase your skillset.  When the time comes, go for the UMPI MAOL to move up the ranks!

Can't agree with this. For software developers, certs are almost not a thing, and a lot of tech companies won't hire you without either a CS or a relevant hard science or math. Not saying you can't find work, you can. After all, I worked for 30 years before I got my degree, but there were employers I couldn't get hired at without the right degree.
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(06-26-2024, 02:04 AM)davewill Wrote:
(06-25-2024, 08:10 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: And that's the reason for my previous posts, you're getting a balanced mix/match trifecta of certs, degree, experience to strengthen your application or portfolio for either furthering your education or furthering your footprint in your current career.  I don't think the TESU BACS will do too much for you since you're already in the field, Software Development or Engineering.  You'll do fine with the Pierpont BOG AAS, UMPI BAS, and you can ladder to the MAOL, what that achieves is, just the papers to acknowledge your education, your experience is where it'll showcase your skillset.  When the time comes, go for the UMPI MAOL to move up the ranks!

Can't agree with this. For software developers, certs are almost not a thing, and a lot of tech companies won't hire you without either a CS or a relevant hard science or math. Not saying you can't find work, you can. After all, I worked for 30 years before I got my degree, but there were employers I couldn't get hired at without the right degree.

My husband worked in software/databases for over 20 years before he completed his bachelor's degree and it definitely had an impact. Within a few months, he received a raise and a new job title. He struggled looking for jobs in the past without the degree. Now he has a degree in analytics so he's constantly being contacted by recruiters. The BAS just isn't a common degree and the minors barely skim the surface. 3 years experience in software isn't much at all. You're competing against people with decades of experience and relevant degrees. Some organizations are super picky about that education background. It's an interesting thing to experience.
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(06-26-2024, 09:24 AM)ss20ts Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 02:04 AM)davewill Wrote:
(06-25-2024, 08:10 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: And that's the reason for my previous posts, you're getting a balanced mix/match trifecta of certs, degree, experience to strengthen your application or portfolio for either furthering your education or furthering your footprint in your current career.  I don't think the TESU BACS will do too much for you since you're already in the field, Software Development or Engineering.  You'll do fine with the Pierpont BOG AAS, UMPI BAS, and you can ladder to the MAOL, what that achieves is, just the papers to acknowledge your education, your experience is where it'll showcase your skillset.  When the time comes, go for the UMPI MAOL to move up the ranks!

Can't agree with this. For software developers, certs are almost not a thing, and a lot of tech companies won't hire you without either a CS or a relevant hard science or math. Not saying you can't find work, you can. After all, I worked for 30 years before I got my degree, but there were employers I couldn't get hired at without the right degree.

My husband worked in software/databases for over 20 years before he completed his bachelor's degree and it definitely had an impact. Within a few months, he received a raise and a new job title. He struggled looking for jobs in the past without the degree. Now he has a degree in analytics so he's constantly being contacted by recruiters. The BAS just isn't a common degree and the minors barely skim the surface. 3 years experience in software isn't much at all. You're competing against people with decades of experience and relevant degrees. Some organizations are super picky about that education background. It's an interesting thing to experience.

Yeah, my brother has been working as a developer for about 10 years now, even though he has a degree in metallurgical engineering and never got any degree in software development
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Seconding Dave's opinion. I would add that it doesn't really make sense to get two bachelor degrees from two different institutions at the same time unless you have a very specific situation. IMO, strictly from a career perspective, it doesn't make much sense to get two bachelor's degrees at all unless you're trying to switch into a different line of work.

OP, the TESU BACS is practically the only game in town for international students trying to get a cheap, online, US based CS bachelor's. I'd go for that one.
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* C++ Programming Certificate, Washtenaw Community College (August '23)
* Bachelors of Arts, a Canadian brick & mortar university (2020)
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I really appreciate everyone's opinion on this, thank you very much! I won't overthink it and I'll just start working in the electives.
Thanks again and I will come back later for updates!
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Regarding this part:

> I went to business school here and also a biological science drop-out so it won't be exactly a whole new world of knowledge.

If you post what you have, some more knowledgeable folks might be able to tell you whether a WES transcript evaluation is worth it. I do think the cost would end up under $200, which could be cheaper than needing a couple extra Study.com courses, for example.
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(06-26-2024, 10:36 PM)CenterSquarEd Wrote: Regarding this part:

> I went to business school here and also a biological science drop-out so it won't be exactly a whole new world of knowledge.

If you post what you have, some more knowledgeable folks might be able to tell you whether a WES transcript evaluation is worth it. I do think the cost would end up under $200, which could be cheaper than needing a couple extra Study.com courses, for example.

Hey CenterSquarEd:
I added a document with most of my academic journey at business school (maybe 2 subjects missing), but it's in spanish. To be honest, very shocked to see my college name in WES database lol. Maybe I could get something, at least from GenEd.


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(06-27-2024, 06:02 PM)zFranco Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 10:36 PM)CenterSquarEd Wrote: Regarding this part:

> I went to business school here and also a biological science drop-out so it won't be exactly a whole new world of knowledge.

If you post what you have, some more knowledgeable folks might be able to tell you whether a WES transcript evaluation is worth it. I do think the cost would end up under $200, which could be cheaper than needing a couple extra Study.com courses, for example.

Hey CenterSquarEd:
I added a document with most of my academic journey at business school (maybe 2 subjects missing), but it's in spanish. To be honest, very shocked to see my college name in WES database lol. Maybe I could get something, at least from GenEd.

I'll be glad to translate to english assuming Argentina's system is like Mexico. The numbers are the grde, not # credits

Universidad Autononoma Entre Rios
Degree International Commerce

Intro Business 6
Intro Economics 8
Epistemplogy Science (science terminology?) 10
Intellectual work 7
University and professional formation 8
Social history and politics 10
Organizational Psychology 8
Accounting 9
Argentinean commerce 8
Math 1 8
Profesional practicum 8
Organizational sociology 9
Public and private law 10
Intro commerce 8
Micro and macroeconomics 8
Imports and exports 9
Math II 10
Statistics 9
Peofsional practicum II 7
Logistics  classification 9
Cost of exports 9
International public law 7
Customs and insurance tax 6
International commerce 7
International transport and logistics 9
Banking commerce 6
Customs evalation 6
Market policy 9
Professional paracticum 9
Internhsip 10
International commerce seminar 7
Integration and economic commerce 7
Marketing plan seminar 7
International business administration 10
International economic policy 7
Imports exports seminar 9
Business economomy regions 9
Business rounds (might be a managerial accounting class) 9
Quality management 7
International business law 9
Human rights 10
Portuguese I 8
Portugiese II 9
Portuguese III 8
English I 7
English II 10
English III 9
Database processing 9
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