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Civil War Movie in 2024
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(01-22-2024, 07:40 AM)Old Guy Wrote: The North was industrial, the South agricultural and the country was ruled for protection of industry.  Six percent of Southerners owned slaves.  The immediate cause of the Civil War was the failure of the North to withdraw troops from the south.  Slavery only became a major issue in the North in 1863 with the Emancipation Proclamation.  Slavery was legal in the North through 1865.  A big cause was Lincoln's bitter rhetoric dividing people to win election - like Joe Biden's blood red speech when he descended into hell.  What did I get wrong?

Slavery only became a major issue in the North in 1863 with the Emancipation Proclamation.

The original draft of the Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson had a specific reference to slavery.

"He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the Christian king of Great Britain."

Slavery was legal in the North through 1865.

Vermont, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Rhode Island had all taken steps to outlaw slavery by the time the U.S. Constitution was ratified in 1788.

The U.S. wasn't founded on slavery as the media would like you to believe; in fact, the U.S. was the world leader in ending slavery.

A big cause was Lincoln's bitter rhetoric dividing people to win the election.

In the Election of 1860, Abraham Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in 10 southern states, though despite this, he still won the election.

Abraham Lincoln divided people? The Southern establishment divided people and tried to prevent citizens from voting for the person they wanted for president.

The immediate cause of the Civil War was the failure of the North to withdraw troops from the south.

Under what authority can the South tell the U.S. government where to put its troops? Under what authority does the South have to form its own army, then use that army to attack the U.S. military?

While states' rights, which included the right for slavery, were some of the key political issues at the time, an attack on the U.S. military is an act of war, which led to the start of the Civil War.
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(01-22-2024, 03:07 PM)LevelUP Wrote:
(01-22-2024, 07:40 AM)Old Guy Wrote: The North was industrial, the South agricultural and the country was ruled for protection of industry.  Six percent of Southerners owned slaves.  The immediate cause of the Civil War was the failure of the North to withdraw troops from the south.  Slavery only became a major issue in the North in 1863 with the Emancipation Proclamation.  Slavery was legal in the North through 1865.  A big cause was Lincoln's bitter rhetoric dividing people to win election - like Joe Biden's blood red speech when he descended into hell.  What did I get wrong?

Slavery only became a major issue in the North in 1863 with the Emancipation Proclamation.

The original draft of the Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson had a specific reference to slavery.

"He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the Christian king of Great Britain."

Slavery was legal in the North through 1865.

Vermont, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Rhode Island had all taken steps to outlaw slavery by the time the U.S. Constitution was ratified in 1788.

The U.S. wasn't founded on slavery as the media would like you to believe; in fact, the U.S. was the world leader in ending slavery.

A big cause was Lincoln's bitter rhetoric dividing people to win the election.

In the Election of 1860, Abraham Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in 10 southern states, though despite this, he still won the election.

Abraham Lincoln divided people? The Southern establishment divided people and tried to prevent citizens from voting for the person they wanted for president.

The immediate cause of the Civil War was the failure of the North to withdraw troops from the south.

Under what authority can the South tell the U.S. government where to put its troops? Under what authority does the South have to form its own army, then use that army to attack the U.S. military?

While states' rights, which included the right for slavery, were some of the key political issues at the time, an attack on the U.S. military is an act of war, which led to the start of the Civil War.

This is the correct answer.
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(01-22-2024, 04:36 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: This is the correct answer.

So I was right.
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(01-22-2024, 07:40 AM)Old Guy Wrote: Slavery only became a major issue in the North in 1863 with the Emancipation Proclamation.  Slavery was legal in the North through 1865.  A big cause was Lincoln's bitter rhetoric dividing people to win election - like Joe Biden's blood red speech when he descended into hell.  What did I get wrong?

Tell that to Henry Clay who spent the early century brokering compromises over slavery. Or to the national Christian denominations that split into separate Northern and Southern denominations over slavery in the 1840s. Or to the readers of the 1852 blockbuster Uncle Tom's Cabin. Or to anyone in Kansas in the 1850s. Or to Lincoln and Douglas at their Illinois U.S. Senate debate series of 1858…

(01-22-2024, 07:40 AM)Old Guy Wrote: Slavery was legal in the North through 1865.

That's like saying prostitution is legal in the United States in 2024. Technically true because of some counties in Nevada, but likely to misdirect a listener.

(01-22-2024, 07:40 AM)Old Guy Wrote: A big cause was Lincoln's bitter rhetoric dividing people to win the election.

Famously bitter Lincoln! What was it he said, "With malice against Southerners, with charity only for Northerners, let us strive on to salt the nation's wounds…" Or something like that.
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(01-22-2024, 07:38 PM)Old Guy Wrote:
(01-22-2024, 04:36 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: This is the correct answer.

So I was right.


You were wrong and were using PragerU style revisionist history.
Note that PragerU is not a regionally accredited university.
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The South never gave Lincoln a chance.

Before Lincoln got into power, the South declared Lincoln was an illegitimate president, and one by one, most of the Southern states seceded from the Union.

1. South Carolina: December 20, 1860
2. Mississippi: January 9, 1861
3. Florida: January 10, 1861
4. Alabama: January 11, 1861
5. Georgia: January 19, 1861
6. Louisiana: January 26, 1861
7. Texas: February 1, 1861
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Things are heating up in Texas.

Texas installs more razor wire on Eagle Pass border after Supreme Court said Biden could remove it
"Texas will not back down from our efforts to secure the border in Biden’s absence."

https://thepostmillennial.com/texas-inst...-remove-it

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https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status...2818411694

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Texas Governor Greg Abbott has released a statement outlining states' rights to constitutional self-defense when dealing with a "lawless president":

https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/pres...4.2024.pdf
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More breaking news at the border.

Texas is recruiting volunteer militias to secure the border
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-greg-abbo...rs-1864199

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said in an interview with Tucker that Texas can use any means necessary, including forming a militia to secure the border.
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status...6567834008
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So what is the idea? Start a Civil War over the rights of states let migrant children bleed out on the boarder? Pretty pathetic.
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Ain't nothing civil about a civil war song




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