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If the courses from a community college is cheaper, I would take the math courses there... Or take Calculus II at the minimum from StraighterLine, and whatever else you want to take at another provider. You don't really need to go for a second degree if it's not needed, some people like to supplement their education with extra courses to fill whatever knowledge or learning gaps they want.
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(10-08-2023, 11:34 AM)nomaduser Wrote: Yeah, it's weird that WGU's BS in CS is missing Calculus II, Multivariable Calculus, Linear Algebra.
I'm taking these at another online university.
https://cs.nyu.edu/home/undergrad/major_programs.html
Core Requirements (7)
Electives (5)
- FIVE electives, numbered CSCI-UA.04xx
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(10-10-2023, 10:00 AM)bluebooger Wrote: (10-08-2023, 11:34 AM)nomaduser Wrote: Yeah, it's weird that WGU's BS in CS is missing Calculus II, Multivariable Calculus, Linear Algebra.
I'm taking these at another online university.
https://cs.nyu.edu/home/undergrad/major_programs.html
Core Requirements (7)
Electives (5)
- FIVE electives, numbered CSCI-UA.04xx
Electives vary every fall, spring semester and there is one elective option offered in the summer semester. Students may substitute a 400-level elective with one of the following Math classes: MATH-UA.0122 Calculus II , MATH-UA.0140 Linear Algebra , and/or MATH-UA.0235 Probability and Statistics ; a maximum of two classes can be substituted.
They expect you to take these as well.
I'm worried that WGU's BS in CS may be seen as an easier version CS degree.
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(10-11-2023, 06:08 AM)nomaduser Wrote: Electives vary every fall, spring semester and there is one elective option offered in the summer semester. Students may substitute a 400-level elective with one of the following Math classes: MATH-UA.0122 Calculus II , MATH-UA.0140 Linear Algebra , and/or MATH-UA.0235 Probability and Statistics ; a maximum of two classes can be substituted.
I'm confused. Why are we discussing NYU in a thread about WGU??
(10-11-2023, 06:08 AM)nomaduser Wrote: They expect you to take these as well.
Also confused about this. Who are "they"?
(10-11-2023, 06:08 AM)nomaduser Wrote: I'm worried that WGU's BS in CS may be seen as an easier version CS degree.
The whole point of this thread is that the WGU BSCS degree is now accredited by ABET, which should provide some measure of reassurance. However, unless the degree is from a top-tier school like MIT, it is mostly checking a box, except in cases like yours, where you already have an IT degree, in which case it will rarely even do that.
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No, any top 100 to 300 universities in US will require Calculus II, III, Linear Algebra in their CS curriculums.
Please check this sample curriculum from Drexel University:
https://catalog.drexel.edu/undergraduate...entsbstext
In employer's perspective, a strong math foundation is expected from a normal CS grad.
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"They expect you to take these as well."
they are electives
not expectives
yale
https://catalog.yale.edu/ycps/subjects-o...r-science/
so neither yale nor nyu require you take linear algebra and calculus 3
and neither calculus 3 or linear algebra are not required to be abet accredited
"In employer's perspective, a strong math foundation is expected from a normal CS grad."
obviously not true
unless you're working in finance or AI or game programming or a job that actually requires math
tesu doesn't even require more math than wgu
https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/current/...r-science/
if you want to take those courses or even learn them on your own, then fine
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Your main goal is to ladder or land into a higher degree, something like the GT or UT-Austin Masters degree option using MOOC. You just need to make sure you've got the prerequisites for the degree completed. If you're looking at CS/Math, I suggest getting the TESU BA with the double major, you need to transfer in many of the courses and take classes that interest you and also hit those requirements, you can do 4 classes/capstone with the flat rate term and you'll have the degree for around $6K...
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(10-09-2023, 07:00 AM)nomaduser Wrote: Also, WGU's BS in CS is missing C++ programming courses.
Last time, I was denied a developer job position because I didn't know how to program in C++ and PHP.
It looks like WGU's BS in CS is focused on Java only.
I'll try to take C++ course somewhere else.
There are new languages all the time. The next time, you might be denied a job because you don't know Ruby or Rust or LISP or whatever.
It is impossible to learn all of these languages at a college or university and most employers aren't going to care whether you have "C++" on your transcript or not. They don't care. They want to know if you can do the thing. There are tons and tons of university graduates who have degrees with the classes you think are lacking, but it means literally nothing because university classes don't teach you everything you need to know. Those graduates can't pass a coding interview.
There are reasons why there are sites devoted exclusively to teaching people how to pass code interviews.
If you're going to be in the computer industry, you must learn to be self-directed. You cannot expect to rely on university courses.
Go buy a book on C++ if you think you need to know C++.
Or use a free resource. Employers aren't going to care how much you paid to learn a programming language, only whether or not you actually know it.
https://exercism.org/
https://leetcode.com/
https://www.hackerrank.com/
https://www.codewars.com/
https://adventofcode.com/about
And, for goodness sake, start contributing on GitHub so you have an actual portfolio of work that you can show potential employers.
https://github.com/MunGell/awesome-for-beginners
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StraighterLine has several courses for computer programming, they use an innovative system for learning which is great, people have compared that closely to a regular butt-in-seat program. I would check alternative credit providers first for lower level credits that you want to transfer in or at least have them on the transcript... If you really want to learn, you have to do that 'outside' of the class and practice with whatever OER that's available...
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