Help me, Review this degree plan for TESU

[dfrecore]

I didn't really knew much about the capstone, Since almost every degree require it, My guess was it would not be really difficult,

But now that you mention most people need 10 - 15 hours per week for it, I guess I need to rethink the strategy.
Although, Even if anything fails, I can always get out with the BACS and ANSM MAT.

If I leave with BACS for the time being and come back again for MAT, I have do the capstone, cornerstone again also pay the residency waiver or do the flat term right?

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Alongside, I seen Strayer have added Operating Systems as an challenge exam, All strayer challenge exam will transfer in TESU right?, I am thinking about taking it since it will RA.

If you come back later to do the math degree, you don't have to do the cornerstone again, but you do have to take the capstone again, and you need to pay another residency waiver or take another 16 TESU credits. You also have to take 24 new credits overall (can be alt cred). They have to be earned after you graduate the first bachelor's.

If you do your first degree at TESU and take 16cr there, you don't have to take another 16cr there, nor do you have to pay the residency waiver - you earned the RW by taking 16cr there already, so you just need 24 new credits and then the capstone.

[FellowMr]

I didn't really knew much about the capstone, Since almost every degree require it, My guess was it would not be really difficult,

But now that you mention most people need 10 - 15 hours per week for it, I guess I need to rethink the strategy.
Although, Even if anything fails, I can always get out with the BACS and ANSM MAT.

If I leave with BACS for the time being and come back again for MAT, I have do the capstone, cornerstone again also pay the residency waiver or do the flat term right?

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Alongside, I seen Strayer have added Operating Systems as an challenge exam, All strayer challenge exam will transfer in TESU right?, I am thinking about taking it since it will RA.

Well, you don't want to go paying for courses, then fail them, plus the point of doing the flat rate term is to get 16 credits so you don't have to pay the residency waiver. If you fail the math courses, you'd be short.

If you come back later to do the math degree, you don't have to do the cornerstone again, but you do have to take the capstone again, and you need to pay another residency waiver or take another 16 TESU credits. You also have to take 24 new credits overall (can be alt cred). They have to be earned after you graduate the first bachelor's.

Got it, I really appreciate the insight, 
Although this is proving to be a lot of more difficult than I initially thought,
I guess I need to think through this a little bit more.

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I didn't really knew much about the capstone, Since almost every degree require it, My guess was it would not be really difficult,

But now that you mention most people need 10 - 15 hours per week for it, I guess I need to rethink the strategy.
Although, Even if anything fails, I can always get out with the BACS and ANSM MAT.

If I leave with BACS for the time being and come back again for MAT, I have do the capstone, cornerstone again also pay the residency waiver or do the flat term right?

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Alongside, I seen Strayer have added Operating Systems as an challenge exam, All strayer challenge exam will transfer in TESU right?, I am thinking about taking it since it will RA.

If you come back later to do the math degree, you don't have to do the cornerstone again, but you do have to take the capstone again, and you need to pay another residency waiver or take another 16 TESU credits. You also have to take 24 new credits overall (can be alt cred). They have to be earned after you graduate the first bachelor's.

If you do your first degree at TESU and take 16cr there, you don't have to take another 16cr there, nor do you have to pay the residency waiver - you earned the RW by taking 16cr there already, so you just need 24 new credits and then the capstone.

I guess this will apply if I take two terms consecutively.

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I didn't really knew much about the capstone, Since almost every degree require it, My guess was it would not be really difficult,

But now that you mention most people need 10 - 15 hours per week for it, I guess I need to rethink the strategy.
Although, Even if anything fails, I can always get out with the BACS and ANSM MAT.

If I leave with BACS for the time being and come back again for MAT, I have do the capstone, cornerstone again also pay the residency waiver or do the flat term right?

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Alongside, I seen Strayer have added Operating Systems as an challenge exam, All strayer challenge exam will transfer in TESU right?, I am thinking about taking it since it will RA.

I usually tell people the capstone will take 80 hours +/- 20 hrs.

The capstone won't be your major problem. You can pay for an extension if you need more time.

There are some tricks, such as studying courses and writing the entire capstone ahead of your term. Math courses alone can take some people up to 200 hours to do. You have to be careful loading up a bunch of hard math courses at once. 

If you do the flat term, then take TESU Software Engineering.

Can you give me a link or guide to the tricks you mentioned,

Also is the TESU Software Engineering, is easy? (Easy in the sense, After doing all the courses, will it be easy in the 16 credit term?)

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Alongside, Does anybody know if those strayer challenge exam can be used to remove the 200$ TOEFL That I will otherwise need to take?

[rachel83az]

Strayer may require a TOEFL before you could access the challenge exam at all. Bear in mind that getting the exam credits over to TESU is not a trivial matter. It's pretty difficult.

Even if you can get it transferred, Strayer exams are pass/fail. So, they likely will not count for the 9 semester hours required to waive the TOEFL requirement per https://www.tesu.edu/admissions/apply-in...al-student

For cheap/easy-ish "RA" credit, I would strongly recommend Metropolia University credits vs. Strayer challenge exams. They have Discrete Math for 15€ and a bunch of other courses applicable to TESU Comp Sci/Math degrees for free or cheap. It would then cost about $200 to get these Finnish credits evaluated by ACEI for transfer to TESU. May or may not be quite as cheap as Strayer challenge exams, but it would certainly be simpler and less stress to do so. These are also pass/fail.

If you want to avoid the TOEFL, I would recommend taking 3 ASU Universal Learner and/or TEL Learning courses. ASU would probably be easier, but it would cost $425 per course. TEL would be $200 each but each one has two proctored exams and multiple assignments. Neither of these require a TOEFL. Since you've already planned to take Calculus at ASU and Quantitative Analysis at TEL, just add one more from either TEL or ASU. I would probably suggest one of ASU's history courses instead of Sophia's US History, but that's up to you.

Also, you have Saylor listed as being RA. Maybe you meant to type Strayer? Saylor is not RA.

[FellowMr]

Strayer may require a TOEFL before you could access the challenge exam at all. Bear in mind that getting the exam credits over to TESU is not a trivial matter. It's pretty difficult.

Even if you can get it transferred, Strayer exams are pass/fail. So, they likely will not count for the 9 semester hours required to waive the TOEFL requirement per https://www.tesu.edu/admissions/apply-in...al-student

For cheap/easy-ish "RA" credit, I would strongly recommend Metropolia University credits vs. Strayer challenge exams. They have Discrete Math for 15€ and a bunch of other courses applicable to TESU Comp Sci/Math degrees for free or cheap. It would then cost about $200 to get these Finnish credits evaluated by ACEI for transfer to TESU. May or may not be quite as cheap as Strayer challenge exams, but it would certainly be simpler and less stress to do so. These are also pass/fail.

If you want to avoid the TOEFL, I would recommend taking 3 ASU Universal Learner and/or TEL Learning courses. ASU would probably be easier, but it would cost $425 per course. TEL would be $200 each but each one has two proctored exams and multiple assignments. Neither of these require a TOEFL. Since you've already planned to take Calculus at ASU and Quantitative Analysis at TEL, just add one more from either TEL or ASU. I would probably suggest one of ASU's history courses instead of Sophia's US History, but that's up to you.

Also, you have Saylor listed as being RA. Maybe you meant to type Strayer? Saylor is not RA.

Yeah I meant strayer for RA.

Alongside about metropolita, There is one course Engineering Mathematics 1


This one have Calc 1, Calc 2, Trigonometry, And a bunch of other things mashed together. 
If I take this will I get credit for all of them individually or will it be for only of them, Because in metropolita it is listed under a single course worth 5 ECTS.

[rachel83az]

If you take Engineering Math, you'll only get credit for a single math course. You will not get credit for Calc 1, 2, Trig, etc.

[FellowMr]

If you take Engineering Math, you'll only get credit for a single math course. You will not get credit for Calc 1, 2, Trig, etc.

Oh, That's disappointing, So, I guess I would like to take a least the operating systems Strayer Challenge Exam, What's the process for getting strayer credit's into tesu, Since you mentioned it is quite difficult.

[rachel83az]

Operating Systems is going to be way, way easier at Study.com. If you can't find anything else that matches TESU AOS requirements, you can take literally anything for RA credit and it'll go to your electives. Metropolia does have an Operating Systems course for 50€, though: https://www.metropolia.fi/en/academics/o...technology

That said, hopefully you've read the information on this page: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/St...University I need to update it with information from this thread: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid327213 Strayer lists their challenge exams as "transfer credit" and it can take weeks (or months) of back and forth with both TESU and Strayer to get TESU to accept them.