Looking for 2 year DBA online

[ss20ts]

In regards to the University of Stellenbosch, I genuinely do believe that a PhD path is much better and generally will be considered to be a more "legit" doctorate than a DBA. Outside of the USA or Northern America, DBA's aren't a thing. In South Africa at least, I've never heard of a program or person that has a DBA. Not saying that a DBA is any less of a doctorate, however it is still fairly new and at least from personal experiences, it doesn't seem to hold the same level of respect. That is just from my own personal experience and I could very be wrong. I just think if you would like to stay in the realm of education and be more widely respected among your colleagues, I would honestly just go for a PhD. 
https://www.waldenu.edu/programs/busines...management

For the most part PhDs can also be completed for much less than a DBA, since DBA's are only offered by a select few online universities.
Here is a general PhD management degree from UNISA (note that they have other business related degrees and all of them are priced exactly the same):
https://www.unisa.ac.za/sites/corporate/...80%93-BMA)

It's fees are as followed: 
Research proposal R9 250 ($516,64)
Thesis R18 500 p/a. ($1033,28 p/a)

Meaning if you took two years to complete your PhD it would cost you $2583,2 in total.
That's well within a 1/4 your budget for a degree I believe would be internationally much more highly regarded in the realm of Academia. (At least from someone with a perspective that does not come from NA (North-America)).
Not to mention you would be getting a PhD from a top 1000 global University (Times Higher Education Ranking: 801), where other respected online schools such as TESU, Liberty University, Excelsior, Azteca, etc didn't even make the list. 

Once again, this is all my opinion and you can take it as you want.

DBA's are NOT a new doctorate. The first DBA was issued in 1953 by Harvard University. They are legitimate doctorates. Just because they aren't something you've seen in South Africa doesn't mean that they are new or not available outside of North America. Again, DBA's are not just offered from a small number of schools online. Doctorate programs in general have a much lower number of offerings compared to bachelor's degrees and master's degrees. There are dozens of schools in the US which offer DBA's. PhD's in business administration are less common than a DBA in the US. This link will explain the differences and similarities between DBA's and PhD's. 

https://business.fiu.edu/graduate/insigh...%20Harvard.

[Personherebb9]

In regards to the University of Stellenbosch, I genuinely do believe that a PhD path is much better and generally will be considered to be a more "legit" doctorate than a DBA. Outside of the USA or Northern America, DBA's aren't a thing. In South Africa at least, I've never heard of a program or person that has a DBA. Not saying that a DBA is any less of a doctorate, however it is still fairly new and at least from personal experiences, it doesn't seem to hold the same level of respect. That is just from my own personal experience and I could very be wrong. I just think if you would like to stay in the realm of education and be more widely respected among your colleagues, I would honestly just go for a PhD. 
https://www.waldenu.edu/programs/busines...management

For the most part PhDs can also be completed for much less than a DBA, since DBA's are only offered by a select few online universities.
Here is a general PhD management degree from UNISA (note that they have other business related degrees and all of them are priced exactly the same):
https://www.unisa.ac.za/sites/corporate/...80%93-BMA)

It's fees are as followed: 
Research proposal R9 250 ($516,64)
Thesis R18 500 p/a. ($1033,28 p/a)

Meaning if you took two years to complete your PhD it would cost you $2583,2 in total.
That's well within a 1/4 your budget for a degree I believe would be internationally much more highly regarded in the realm of Academia. (At least from someone with a perspective that does not come from NA (North-America)).
Not to mention you would be getting a PhD from a top 1000 global University (Times Higher Education Ranking: 801), where other respected online schools such as TESU, Liberty University, Excelsior, Azteca, etc didn't even make the list. 

Once again, this is all my opinion and you can take it as you want.

DBA's are NOT a new doctorate. The first DBA was issued in 1953 by Harvard University. They are legitimate doctorates. Just because they aren't something you've seen in South Africa doesn't mean that they are new or not available outside of North America. Again, DBA's are not just offered from a small number of schools online. Doctorate programs in general have a much lower number of offerings compared to bachelor's degrees and master's degrees. There are dozens of schools in the US which offer DBA's. PhD's in business administration are less common than a DBA in the US. This link will explain the differences and similarities between DBA's and PhD's. 

https://business.fiu.edu/graduate/insigh...%20Harvard.

Aaah interesting... As I said, DBA's aren't any less of a doctorate than a PhD, however I feel like it has that public connotation. Once again, at least of my experience in South Africa, I am not able to speak on the reputation of a DBA in any country outside South Africa. Considering the OP is generally wanting to move up in the world of Higher Education, I think a PhD would be better suited, regardless of the reputation of DBA vs PhD. PhD's are known to be the golden standard for higher education, that's not to say that someone with a DBA is any less qualified to teach.
https://www.phdportal.com/articles/558/w...20journals.

From what I understand the OP is also not from NA and since I have no idea of their rules or stigmas in regards to DBA/PhD, I cannot truly give advice. My advice just comes from someone who knows for a fact that a South African university would most likely not even consider a professor candidate with a DBA. However since my view is biased towards South Africa, I really am not in the position to give advice to someone not from here.

However I find it interesting how DBA's fell in popularity in regards to PhD over the years. In my mind at least a "practical doctoral" would seem to cater towards a lot more people than your general PhD, which is usually just catered towards aspiring academics. You would think that DBA and other practical doctorates would take the cake for popularity. I wonder, besides the entire name confusion, if there were any other factors contributing to this.

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Thank you for your advice. I was informed to take a DBA if I am to continue lecturing the future. So I am not sure if PhD will suffice the requirement.  In addition, the selection of DBA is assumed to be more on the practical approach which assist in my career development.  I will write in to USB to check with them.

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Ah, okay. If you're wanting to get this doctorate for reasons such as Personal development outside of just the teaching prospective, I definitely would then recommend DBA over PhD. I find it weird that they asked you to get specifically a DBA? I've never heard of any university that requires lectors to have a professional doctorate over a PhD? What type of classes do you teach if I may ask? And where are you from?

If you are certain on the DBA path, I am not aware of any immediate good options in terms of costs. DBAs seem to be on the higher end of degrees to attain. They have mentioned a few good ones above, however even that seems to fall outside of your price range. That's another reason why I thought PhD would be better than DBA, since they're generally much much cheaper to attain. Generally speaking DBA offerings seem to be mostly popular within the USA, hence why they are so expensive. Some other countries seem to offer some type of DBA, however I'm going to go ahead and assume those won't be any cheaper. 
https://www.phdstudies.com/DBA/Europe/Di...-learning/

Europe seems to be the most gracious with cost, however only if you are a European citizen. They're not shy with their international student fees. 

What masters do you currently have? How many years of teaching experience do you have? Have you considered attending a University full-time while being an assistant lector or something in those lines?

If you're REALLY set on DBA, I doubt you'll find a degree plan that perfectly suits your wants. $10 000 is a big ask for a Professional Doctorate, especially if you're looking at decently reputable USA institutions. 

I see UNISA offers a DBL (Doctorate in Business Leadership) degree. While it's not a DBA, it should be the equivalent to one:
https://www.unisa.ac.za/sites/sbl/defaul...hip-degree


The total tuition for the degree seems to be R34 610 ($1933,08), I would just contact UNISA to ensure the finances and whether or not this degree requires any residency (in-person) aspects.

I wish you the best of luck on your search and I know you'll find something perfect for you!

[bjcheung77]

Thank you for your advice. I was informed to take a DBA if I am to continue lecturing the future. So I am not sure if PhD will suffice the requirement. In addition, the selection of DBA is assumed to be more on the practical approach which assist in my career development. I will write in to USB to check with them.

That's exactly what I mentioned in my previous post, the DBA is more applied/practical in nature, it would be an alternative or desired degree for those wanting to teach at most institutions in Singapore, being private or public, it won't really matter. The main use for PhD is if you're going into academia and doing more of research versus teaching, I wouldn't bother with the programmatic accreditation as it's secondary, plus will cost you more. I still suggest the ones in the post #2 in addition to whatever else is available inexpensively.

[Bob Sham]

Thank you for your advice. I was informed to take a DBA if I am to continue lecturing the future. So I am not sure if PhD will suffice the requirement.  In addition, the selection of DBA is assumed to be more on the practical approach which assist in my career development.  I will write in to USB to check with them.

That's exactly what I mentioned in my previous post, the DBA is more applied/practical in nature, it would be an alternative or desired degree for those wanting to teach at most institutions in Singapore, being private or public, it won't really matter.  The main use for PhD is if you're going into academia and doing more of research versus teaching, I wouldn't bother with the programmatic accreditation as it's secondary, plus will cost you more.  I still suggest the ones in the post #2 in addition to whatever else is available inexpensively.

Hi bjcheung77,

I recently approached MDIS for the DBA from Teeside University which is a 3 year program and costing USD$33385.43 which is very high.  Degree from Malaysia is accepted here but not really highly regarded.  Currently, I am considering from London Examination Board Triple Award from UCAM, VERN, and Brittany University (Cost is about GBP 12900 which is an acceptable range but not sure about accreditation), Universidad Azteca (Cost is USD $5000 within the range but not sure about accreditation) and South College (Looking at USD $18000 if possible and this is definitely accredited).  I think degrees from public universities in UK and US will be more recognized here in Singapore.  Even when I wanted to be an adjunct lecturer (MDIS) my qualifications were sent to HEDD for verification.

[sanantone]

The lines have blurred between the DBA/EdD and PhD. Some DBA and EdD programs require a capstone or applied research project whereas others require a traditional dissertation. In the end, it doesn't really make a difference because you just need the research skills, and they're the same whether you're doing applied or theoretical research. Many professors with PhDs do a lot of applied research and publish from it instead of focusing on theory their entire careers. Some of them also do consulting work for businesses and government agencies.

[Harry101]

In regards to the University of Stellenbosch, I genuinely do believe that a PhD path is much better and generally will be considered to be a more "legit" doctorate than a DBA. Outside of the USA or Northern America, DBA's aren't a thing. In South Africa at least, I've never heard of a program or person that has a DBA. Not saying that a DBA is any less of a doctorate, however it is still fairly new and at least from personal experiences, it doesn't seem to hold the same level of respect. That is just from my own personal experience and I could very be wrong. I just think if you would like to stay in the realm of education and be more widely respected among your colleagues, I would honestly just go for a PhD. 
https://www.waldenu.edu/programs/busines...management

For the most part PhDs can also be completed for much less than a DBA, since DBA's are only offered by a select few online universities.
Here is a general PhD management degree from UNISA (note that they have other business related degrees and all of them are priced exactly the same):
https://www.unisa.ac.za/sites/corporate/...80%93-BMA)

It's fees are as followed: 
Research proposal R9 250 ($516,64)
Thesis R18 500 p/a. ($1033,28 p/a)

Meaning if you took two years to complete your PhD it would cost you $2583,2 in total.
That's well within a 1/4 your budget for a degree I believe would be internationally much more highly regarded in the realm of Academia. (At least from someone with a perspective that does not come from NA (North-America)).
Not to mention you would be getting a PhD from a top 1000 global University (Times Higher Education Ranking: 801), where other respected online schools such as TESU, Liberty University, Excelsior, Azteca, etc didn't even make the list. 

Once again, this is all my opinion and you can take it as you want.

DBA's are NOT a new doctorate. The first DBA was issued in 1953 by Harvard University. They are legitimate doctorates. Just because they aren't something you've seen in South Africa doesn't mean that they are new or not available outside of North America. Again, DBA's are not just offered from a small number of schools online. Doctorate programs in general have a much lower number of offerings compared to bachelor's degrees and master's degrees. There are dozens of schools in the US which offer DBA's. PhD's in business administration are less common than a DBA in the US. This link will explain the differences and similarities between DBA's and PhD's. 

https://business.fiu.edu/graduate/insigh...%20Harvard.

Aaah interesting... As I said, DBA's aren't any less of a doctorate than a PhD, however I feel like it has that public connotation. Once again, at least of my experience in South Africa, I am not able to speak on the reputation of a DBA in any country outside South Africa. Considering the OP is generally wanting to move up in the world of Higher Education, I think a PhD would be better suited, regardless of the reputation of DBA vs PhD. PhD's are known to be the golden standard for higher education, that's not to say that someone with a DBA is any less qualified to teach.
https://www.phdportal.com/articles/558/w...20journals.

From what I understand the OP is also not from NA and since I have no idea of their rules or stigmas in regards to DBA/PhD, I cannot truly give advice. My advice just comes from someone who knows for a fact that a South African university would most likely not even consider a professor candidate with a DBA. However since my view is biased towards South Africa, I really am not in the position to give advice to someone not from here.

However I find it interesting how DBA's fell in popularity in regards to PhD over the years. In my mind at least a "practical doctoral" would seem to cater towards a lot more people than your general PhD, which is usually just catered towards aspiring academics. You would think that DBA and other practical doctorates would take the cake for popularity. I wonder, besides the entire name confusion, if there were any other factors contributing to this.

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Thank you for your advice. I was informed to take a DBA if I am to continue lecturing the future. So I am not sure if PhD will suffice the requirement.  In addition, the selection of DBA is assumed to be more on the practical approach which assist in my career development.  I will write in to USB to check with them.

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Ah, okay. If you're wanting to get this doctorate for reasons such as Personal development outside of just the teaching prospective, I definitely would then recommend DBA over PhD. I find it weird that they asked you to get specifically a DBA? I've never heard of any university that requires lectors to have a professional doctorate over a PhD? What type of classes do you teach if I may ask? And where are you from?

If you are certain on the DBA path, I am not aware of any immediate good options in terms of costs. DBAs seem to be on the higher end of degrees to attain. They have mentioned a few good ones above, however even that seems to fall outside of your price range. That's another reason why I thought PhD would be better than DBA, since they're generally much much cheaper to attain. Generally speaking DBA offerings seem to be mostly popular within the USA, hence why they are so expensive. Some other countries seem to offer some type of DBA, however I'm going to go ahead and assume those won't be any cheaper. 
https://www.phdstudies.com/DBA/Europe/Di...-learning/

Europe seems to be the most gracious with cost, however only if you are a European citizen. They're not shy with their international student fees. 

What masters do you currently have? How many years of teaching experience do you have? Have you considered attending a University full-time while being an assistant lector or something in those lines?

If you're REALLY set on DBA, I doubt you'll find a degree plan that perfectly suits your wants. $10 000 is a big ask for a Professional Doctorate, especially if you're looking at decently reputable USA institutions. 

I see UNISA offers a DBL (Doctorate in Business Leadership) degree. While it's not a DBA, it should be the equivalent to one:
https://www.unisa.ac.za/sites/sbl/defaul...hip-degree


The total tuition for the degree seems to be R34 610 ($1933,08), I would just contact UNISA to ensure the finances and whether or not this degree requires any residency (in-person) aspects.

I wish you the best of luck on your search and I know you'll find something perfect for you!

Sry for this big quote spam. Horrible website for any real information;https://www.phdstudies.com/DBA/Europe/Distance-learning/ untrustworthy, pretty much every institution from this link is unaccredited, or you could call it what it is a modern EU diploma mill, renting an office and getting private accreditation with no real Institutional accrediation from the Ministry of Education ( for EU most important part) or Regional accreditation.( what is used in the USA)

I checked them out on national ministries webpage (KMU Akademie, International French University peeked my interest) and could not find them. Then i went to the German national repository for Institution (ANABIN) and could not find it over there also. 
Mind you there is one we all know quite well on this forum on that list.

As for Upgrad's GGU partnership the people at GGU so far are silent on my emails, i might have to switch to a new email and ask. As of now i am waiting on a response if the GGU UpGrad degree (DBA) has any problems with the Online mode and it being outsourced to India from Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs (ECA) and the  U.S. Department of Education.

[EducationSeeker]

In regards to the University of Stellenbosch, I genuinely do believe that a PhD path is much better and generally will be considered to be a more "legit" doctorate than a DBA. Outside of the USA or Northern America, DBA's aren't a thing. In South Africa at least, I've never heard of a program or person that has a DBA. Not saying that a DBA is any less of a doctorate, however it is still fairly new and at least from personal experiences, it doesn't seem to hold the same level of respect. That is just from my own personal experience and I could very be wrong. I just think if you would like to stay in the realm of education and be more widely respected among your colleagues, I would honestly just go for a PhD. 
https://www.waldenu.edu/programs/busines...management

For the most part PhDs can also be completed for much less than a DBA, since DBA's are only offered by a select few online universities.
Here is a general PhD management degree from UNISA (note that they have other business related degrees and all of them are priced exactly the same):
https://www.unisa.ac.za/sites/corporate/...80%93-BMA)

It's fees are as followed: 
Research proposal R9 250 ($516,64)
Thesis R18 500 p/a. ($1033,28 p/a)

Meaning if you took two years to complete your PhD it would cost you $2583,2 in total.
That's well within a 1/4 your budget for a degree I believe would be internationally much more highly regarded in the realm of Academia. (At least from someone with a perspective that does not come from NA (North-America)).
Not to mention you would be getting a PhD from a top 1000 global University (Times Higher Education Ranking: 801), where other respected online schools such as TESU, Liberty University, Excelsior, Azteca, etc didn't even make the list. 

Once again, this is all my opinion and you can take it as you want.

DBA's are NOT a new doctorate. The first DBA was issued in 1953 by Harvard University. They are legitimate doctorates. Just because they aren't something you've seen in South Africa doesn't mean that they are new or not available outside of North America. Again, DBA's are not just offered from a small number of schools online. Doctorate programs in general have a much lower number of offerings compared to bachelor's degrees and master's degrees. There are dozens of schools in the US which offer DBA's. PhD's in business administration are less common than a DBA in the US. This link will explain the differences and similarities between DBA's and PhD's. 

https://business.fiu.edu/graduate/insigh...%20Harvard.

I looked into Stellenbosch University in South Africa several years ago. If the original poster is in the US or even Europe, the main block I could see which was the case for me is 1) Stellenbosch wants a research based Master's degree in Business (i.e. thesis and/or presenting an article) and 2) I believe there are several on site residencies. My US based MBA from the University of Phoenix was definitely NOT research based and I completed a capstone paper....not a thesis. Secondly, traveling to South Africa is not short trip and I am a single Dad to a 16 year old. As much as I would love to see South Africa, I could see the cost, distance, time involved getting to South Africa as a major block. You might want to check it out as things may have changed.

EducationSeeker

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As a follow-up to my original post, I found this response from the coordinator of the DBA program at Stellenbosch. It looks like the travel is not required, especially post COVID as I had contacted them back in 2019. However, if your masters does not have a thesis, you might have to get another Masters with a Thesis or see if you can take a research course at Stellenbosch as part of a conditional admission prior to being fully accepted into the DBA program. Check with them.

Thank you for your enquiry and interest in the PhD in Business Management and Administration presented by the University of Stellenbosch Business School.
 

1. Does your program accept part time students? Yes, our students do research with the USB from all over the world
   
2. Is it possible to complete your program via limited residency to South Africa or completely via distance learning delivery? Absolutely yes, when we refer to residency, we refer to the amount of years the student is registered, not being physically on campus.
   
3. I wanted to confirm that the your program is AACSB accredited? The USB is AACSB accredited, we are also one of two Universities in Africa, that are members of EDAMBA; http://www.edamba.eu/r/default.asp?iId=GKFHDI
   
4. What are the fees for International students in the program? Fees available on the website
   
5. Would I need a student visa to study at Stellenbosch? As far as I am aware US citizens only require a visa for 90 days or longer stays.
   
6. What is the length of time needed to complete the PHD degree on a part time basis? That varies depending on your nature of the research and the time you have available for the research.
   

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Please see attached the concept note. This note forms part of the first part of the research and must accompany your online application, thereby assisting to determine whether your topic is viable.
 
 
Enrolling for your PhD at USB holds various benefits:
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• Acquire a globally acknowledged PhD: USB holds all three international accreditations for business schools – AACSB, EQUIS and AMBA. USB is also a member of the European Doctoral Programmes Association in Management and Business Administration (EDAMBA) and the Globally Responsible Leadership Initiative's Global Doctoral Alliance (GDA), which holds benefits and creates opportunities for USB's doctoral students.
  

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Please read the information below which will assist you with your application.  For your convenience here is the link to the programme on our website: https://www.usb.ac.za/course/phd-in-business-management-and-administration/
 
 
Academic requirements
The two main academic requirements for admission to the PhD degree are:[/size][/size][/size]

• A relevant master's degree in an appropriate management-related area. The major part of the master's degree (weight within degree) must consist of a written thesis. Successful candidates must have obtained 65% average for the Masters, and 65% for the research module in the Masters.
  
• A minimum period of registration (residency) of two years.
  

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International students require a SAQA evaluation certificate to evaluate your degree according to South African standards. In this regard please contact SAQA at saqainfo@saqa.org.za
The preparation of your concept note
Every application must include a concept note, written in scientific language, on your intended research. The concept note serves to demonstrate whether you have a mature approach to high-level research. It also helps us evaluate whether the topic is viable and whether we can provide appropriate supervision and resources. The concept note must cover, among others, the title and an overview of your proposed research, a literature review with an analysis of at least six academic journal articles, a description of the theoretical framework you will be using, the problem statement and research question, an overview of the research method, an explanation of why the study is important and who will benefit from it, and references.  Please upload this with your online application whenever you are ready (there are rolling admissions), together with the proof of payment of your application fee and the admissions office will provide you with an outcome regarding your application within a few weeks.
 
Start with an initial research proposal.  Write a comprehensive initial research proposal in scientific language. This will assist USB to evaluate at an early stage that:[/size][/size][/size]

• The topic is viable
  
• We can provide appropriate supervision and resources
  
• You have thought through your interest in and commitment to the programme
  
• You are suitable for admission.
  

[size=undefined][size=undefined][size=undefined]The application process
Go to https://applications.usb.ac.za/PhDBMA and complete the online PhD in Business Management and Administration application form by completing each of the following sections:
 
Section 1: Personal details
Section 2: Address details
Section 3: Work and studies
Section 4: Marketing
Section 5: Documentation

Upload the following supporting documentation:
 [/size][/size][/size]Assessment of your application
[size=undefined][size=undefined][size=undefined]Your application package, which includes your initial research proposal, will be reviewed and evaluated by USB’s Doctoral Research Committee and your provisional promoter. This may take up to six weeks.
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Contact email: 
usbcom@usb.ac.za

Please visit our website should you require additional information at www.usb.ac.za and please feel welcome to contact me for further queries.
 
Kind regards
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[Harry101]

I looked up Stellenbosch University in South Africa on ANABIN and the Uni is hold +H (best possible grading score), it part of the official education and the degrees would be usable in EU also, should one wish for.

[Personherebb9]

I looked up Stellenbosch University in South Africa on ANABIN and the Uni is hold +H (best possible grading score), it part of the official education and the degrees would be usable in EU also, should one wish for.

I believe all universities from South Africa are listed under H+ on anabin. There might be a few trade schools that I'm not aware of, but yeah. Even UNISA holds H+.

Stellenbosch University has a really good reputation (second in Africa I think) and honestly if you do decide to go through with the PhD, I'm sure you wouldn't regret it. They hold their education to a very high standard. 

On another note, you can always email admissions to find out if they will accept your masters without a dissertation. It's common for South African PhD's to have the prerequisite of having a thesis masters, however these requirements can usually be waived and will be evaluated on a case-by-case situation. My Aunt did her PhD through another SA university and she also didn't have a master's dissertation. She emailed the admissions and asked how she could proceed from there. I believe they evaluated her "capstone project" to see if it would be the equivalent to a thesis and she was then accepted. I've also heard of people having to submit like a small dissertation with their application.

But yeah totally up to you.

[Harry101]

"I believe all universities from South Africa are listed under H+ on anabin."

I looked back and yes you are correct they all have +H. From what i gather if you want to go DBA you should find out of the DBA is accepted in the labor market and if you can list it under education, the second thing should be finding Institutionally accredited University/College (Ministry of Edu, Regional) these two are a must.
Now what is the quality, networking, learning provided, cost are semantics, but always to check up on with people. (cant help out on this part)

But what i do know is that aside of UK most EU does not support DBA's, India. The stories some might here is probably some US companies insisting on it, but i think it was also discussed how "fair" is that in the labor market laws for US companies insisting on it in EU.