LIB495 Catherine Peck

[bartlebuck]

For anyone about to take LIB495, Be advised that PECK and HAYDEL both have issues as outlined below:


Prof Haydel will want you to join a weekly zoom meeting, as well as provide your personal email and phone number. She will want to set you up with a "buddy" in class, as well as call you at home. If you say you are not available for the nonrequired zoom calls, she will tell you that you will be hindered. None of this is in the course descriptions or requirements. This is her personal preference for running the course. It's more work, more time, and an infringement on your space. I asked not to be called in the evening, but she called me in the evening anyway. So that's Haydel.

Catherine Peck has a huge ego and she will not admit when she is wrong, even if you prove it to her beyond a shadow of a doubt. Other professors at TESU will adjust grades if they make a mistake, but Peck will not. She will not admit to her own mistakes and that makes her untrustworthy as a mentor. If she makes a mistake on one of your papers, and you point it out, too bad for you. She doesn't make mistakes. Ever.

I would avoid both of these professors if you are a strong student because the stress and hassle isn't worth it. If you are a weaker student, then maybe Haydel's method will help you.

[ss20ts]

Zoom meetings? I wouldn't give anyone my personal email or phone number. Not happening. No need for a professor/instructor to call a student. I've been taking classes for many many years and I've NEVER had a professor call me unless I initiated contact because I needed help. A professor just randomly calling me a home is freaking creepy and totally unnecessary. Does she not understand how online courses work?

Isn't this the capstone? If you haven't figured out your way through a course by the time you get to the capstone then a Zoom meeting isn't going to help you.

[rachel83az]

Yikes, I definitely wouldn't want to be in forced Zoom meetings, nor would I want to be with a professor who can't admit that he or she is wrong.

[LevelUP]

Isn't this the capstone? If you haven't figured out your way through a course by the time you get to the capstone then a Zoom meeting isn't going to help you.

This is the capstone.  It is quite common for students not to understand how to put the capstone paper together. 

For anyone about to take LIB495, Be advised that PECK and HAYDEL both have issues as outlined below:


Prof Haydel will want you to join a weekly zoom meeting, as well as provide your personal email and phone number. She will want to set you up with a "buddy" in class, as well as call you at home. If you say you are not available for the nonrequired zoom calls, she will tell you that you will be hindered. None of this is in the course descriptions or requirements. This is her personal preference for running the course. It's more work, more time, and an infringement on your space. I asked not to be called in the evening, but she called me in the evening anyway. So that's Haydel.

Catherine Peck has a huge ego and she will not admit when she is wrong, even if you prove it to her beyond a shadow of a doubt. Other professors at TESU will adjust grades if they make a mistake, but Peck will not. She will not admit to her own mistakes and that makes her untrustworthy as a mentor. If she makes a mistake on one of your papers, and you point it out, too bad for you. She doesn't make mistakes. Ever.

I would avoid both of these professors if you are a strong student because the stress and hassle isn't worth it. If you are a weaker student, then maybe Haydel's method will help you.

Ah, some school drama, I love it!

If Zoom meetings are optional, who cares about that?

Personal email, give them your TESU email.  

Phone number either don't give it out or get an IP phone number which is set up never to notify you if called.  So you gave your primary phone #, and then you were surprised when called?

Peck gave you a grade, and you didn't accept it?  Nice try to dispute the grade.  Now it's time to move on.

Is all this drama because you got a B grade on one of your papers?  I would be more concerned about what my final grade will be.

In my 6 courses, I haven't had any problems with the professors at TESU.  I think it would be fairer to your professors if you completed the course first before starting a flame thread.

[bartlebuck]

Isn't this the capstone? If you haven't figured out your way through a course by the time you get to the capstone then a Zoom meeting isn't going to help you.

This is the capstone.  It is quite common for students not to understand how to put the capstone paper together. 

For anyone about to take LIB495, Be advised that PECK and HAYDEL both have issues as outlined below:


Prof Haydel will want you to join a weekly zoom meeting, as well as provide your personal email and phone number. She will want to set you up with a "buddy" in class, as well as call you at home. If you say you are not available for the nonrequired zoom calls, she will tell you that you will be hindered. None of this is in the course descriptions or requirements. This is her personal preference for running the course. It's more work, more time, and an infringement on your space. I asked not to be called in the evening, but she called me in the evening anyway. So that's Haydel.

Catherine Peck has a huge ego and she will not admit when she is wrong, even if you prove it to her beyond a shadow of a doubt. Other professors at TESU will adjust grades if they make a mistake, but Peck will not. She will not admit to her own mistakes and that makes her untrustworthy as a mentor. If she makes a mistake on one of your papers, and you point it out, too bad for you. She doesn't make mistakes. Ever.

I would avoid both of these professors if you are a strong student because the stress and hassle isn't worth it. If you are a weaker student, then maybe Haydel's method will help you.

Ah, some school drama, I love it!

If Zoom meetings are optional, who cares about that?

Personal email, give them your TESU email.  

Phone number either don't give it out or get an IP phone number which is set up never to notify you if called.  So you gave your primary phone #, and then you were surprised when called?

Peck gave you a grade, and you didn't accept it?  Nice try to dispute the grade.  Now it's time to move on.

Is all this drama because you got a B grade on one of your papers?  I would be more concerned about what my final grade will be.

In my 6 courses, I haven't had any problems with the professors at TESU.  I think it would be fairer to your professors if you completed the course first before starting a flame thread.

If the Zoom meetings are optional, but the prof says you will be hindered if you don't participate, there is some meaning there. If you trust the prof, you will be hindered. Students on the verge of enrolling in her class should be aware of that. If you want to ignore a prof who tells you failing to participate will hinder you, that is your choice. You can enroll in it. Others who read here may not like that. The info is provided to help others choose.

As for Peck, the rubrics and course objectives exist for a reason. Professors can't make up their own requirements for courses. So if a professor marks according to some "rubric" of their own, you can and should absolutely take it up the ladder if they don't adjust the grade.  What Peck did was fail to see that I had answered all the questions, and then when I pointed it out she admitted that she overlooked it, that she failed to see it. This isn't a matter of dispute. She saw her mistake. But what did she do? Fix it? No. She said it was my fault that she failed to see that I had answered the questions because in this research paper course, I did not use the personal pronoun "I".... which is not a requirement of the assignments, and is in fact, contrary to the text, contrary to the lesson and purpose of the course. My post to others here are not because I'm a butt hurt loser who can't take correction. My post is about a butt hurt professor who can't take correction. Some students won't care, but some will. This is a public service message and each can decide for themselves.

Also, it doesn't matter how many courses either of us have completed at TESU. I have taken more than you, but if in your next course you encounter a prof who wants to phone you every night when you are already asleep (because you are a shift worker), my having more courses doesn't discount your experience. For a student who doesn't want to deal with ego out of control, or late night calls, etc al of this information is useful.

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Zoom meetings? I wouldn't give anyone my personal email or phone number. Not happening. No need for a professor/instructor to call a student. I've been taking classes for many many years and I've NEVER had a professor call me unless I initiated contact because I needed help. A professor just randomly calling me a home is freaking creepy and totally unnecessary. Does she not understand how online courses work?

Isn't this the capstone? If you haven't figured out your way through a course by the time you get to the capstone then a Zoom meeting isn't going to help you.

Yes, it is very strange and I was put off and confused by it as well. However, I think she actually means well. It's just one of those things students need to be aware of before choosing a class/instructor.

She is actually very kind and thinks of the students as her legacy. She is willing to help and make sure students do well, which is admirable. But yeah, when I first encountered her format it shocked me as I had never experienced that level of involvement before. I actually mistakenly thought she might be a power-tripping control freak, but I think she does all this for those students who are weaker writers, and less experienced with research papers, etc. She wants to make sure everyone succeeds. But yeah, I'm an older student with a previous degree and a few years in other online schools and I have never encountered anything like this either.

For some students, it may be ideal. To each his own.

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Yikes, I definitely wouldn't want to be in forced Zoom meetings, nor would I want to be with a professor who can't admit that he or she is wrong.

Yep. Peck admitted she was wrong about not seeing I had answered the questions, but then rather than take ownership of her mistake, she tried to blame me for her failures by saying it would have been more obvious to her if I used first person pronouns in the answer, lol.  However, it's a research essay course and first person pronouns are not allowed. But the real issue to me is that she kept moving the goalpost. That's what I found concerning about her.

I could have stayed in the class, but I lost trust for her at that point and got out of it.

Dr Haydel will make sure everyone in her class can write an APA paper for grad school, but if you are already at that level, then her class might feel like overkill.

[LevelUP]

If the Zoom meetings are optional, but the prof says you will be hindered if you don't participate, there is some meaning there. If you trust the prof, you will be hindered. Students on the verge of enrolling in her class should be aware of that. If you want to ignore a prof who tells you failing to participate will hinder you, that is your choice. You can enroll in it. Others who read here may not like that. The info is provided to help others choose.

As for Peck, the rubrics and course objectives exist for a reason. Professors can't make up their own requirements for courses. So if a professor marks according to some "rubric" of their own, you can and should absolutely take it up the ladder if they don't adjust the grade.  What Peck did was fail to see that I had answered all the questions, and then when I pointed it out she admitted that she overlooked it, that she failed to see it. This isn't a matter of dispute. She saw her mistake. But what did she do? Fix it? No. She said it was my fault that she failed to see that I had answered the questions because in this research paper course, I did not use the personal pronoun "I".... which is not a requirement of the assignments, and is in fact, contrary to the text, contrary to the lesson and purpose of the course.  My post to others here are not because I'm a butt hurt loser who can't take correction. My post is about a butt hurt professor who can't take correction. Some students won't care, but some will. This is a public service message and each can decide for themselves.

Also, it doesn't matter how many courses either of us have completed at TESU. I have taken more than you, but if in your next course you encounter a prof who wants to phone you every night when you are already asleep (because you are a shift worker), my having more courses doesn't discount your experience. For a student who doesn't want to deal with ego out of control, or late night calls, etc al of this information is useful.

"Hindered," I take to mean that you will be left on your own to figure things out.  I know from that course that the book doesn't explain things in detail.  I don't take it to mean that the professor will dock you points on your grade for not attending the meetings.

Academic writing is typically done in 3rd person.  So there is no "I" or "you" used.  However, sometimes even on forums, as strange as it sounds, they still want you to write in 3rd person.  I don't think she is butthurt.  She probably has lots of students and didn't want to bother with updating the comments/grade.

I'm saying that these professors' reviews seem like a small sample of what is to be expected in the course.  But, of course, if you end up making an A, then all this becomes irrelevant.

Should someone care more if a professor makes one mistake?  Or should they care more if they make an A in the course?

[bartlebuck]

If the Zoom meetings are optional, but the prof says you will be hindered if you don't participate, there is some meaning there. If you trust the prof, you will be hindered. Students on the verge of enrolling in her class should be aware of that. If you want to ignore a prof who tells you failing to participate will hinder you, that is your choice. You can enroll in it. Others who read here may not like that. The info is provided to help others choose.

As for Peck, the rubrics and course objectives exist for a reason. Professors can't make up their own requirements for courses. So if a professor marks according to some "rubric" of their own, you can and should absolutely take it up the ladder if they don't adjust the grade.  What Peck did was fail to see that I had answered all the questions, and then when I pointed it out she admitted that she overlooked it, that she failed to see it. This isn't a matter of dispute. She saw her mistake. But what did she do? Fix it? No. She said it was my fault that she failed to see that I had answered the questions because in this research paper course, I did not use the personal pronoun "I".... which is not a requirement of the assignments, and is in fact, contrary to the text, contrary to the lesson and purpose of the course.  My post to others here are not because I'm a butt hurt loser who can't take correction. My post is about a butt hurt professor who can't take correction. Some students won't care, but some will. This is a public service message and each can decide for themselves.

Also, it doesn't matter how many courses either of us have completed at TESU. I have taken more than you, but if in your next course you encounter a prof who wants to phone you every night when you are already asleep (because you are a shift worker), my having more courses doesn't discount your experience. For a student who doesn't want to deal with ego out of control, or late night calls, etc al of this information is useful.

"Hindered," I take to mean that you will be left on your own to figure things out.  I know from that course that the book doesn't explain things in detail.  I don't take it to mean that the professor will dock you points on your grade for not attending the meetings.

Academic writing is typically done in 3rd person.  So there is no "I" or "you" used.  However, sometimes even on forums, as strange as it sounds, they still want you to write in 3rd person.  I don't think she is butthurt.  She probably has lots of students and didn't want to bother with updating the comments/grade.

I'm saying that these professors' reviews seem like a small sample of what is to be expected in the course.  But, of course, if you end up making an A, then all this becomes irrelevant.

Should someone care more if a professor makes one mistake?  Or should they care more if they make an A in the course?

OK, you can interpret it however you like. Others may interpret it differently. I know I certainly do. It happened to me. I was there. You weren't but somehow you think you are an expert on it. That's interesting in itself.

I wrote in third person. She made a mistake, realized it, admitted it, and then said it happened because I did not write in first person.... which is not required. That's my point. 

Of course the final mark in any course is what matters, but the road there matters too because it's a long walk. I like to take that road with mentors who I trust. I would not recommend Peck to anyone as a trusted mentor based on my experience with her and for the reasons stated and explained in my post.

[LevelUP]

I wrote in third person. She made a mistake, realized it, admitted it, and then said it happened because I did not write in first person.... which is not required. That's my point. 

I'm confused.  Assignment #1 specifically said three times to, "avoid writing in the first or second person." So why would the professor say write in the first person?

I'm wondering if by switching professors, you are now in a worse situation than what you started with?

[bartlebuck]

I wrote in third person. She made a mistake, realized it, admitted it, and then said it happened because I did not write in first person.... which is not required. That's my point. 

I'm confused.  Assignment #1 specifically said three times to, "avoid writing in the first or second person." So why would the professor say write in the first person?

I'm wondering if by switching professors, you are now in a worse situation than what you started with?

 I'm in a better position, thanks.

I wrote the first assignment in the third person, and answered all the questions. She graded me and I got full points for everything, except, she said, I failed to answer the assigned questions. She said she had no choice but to dock me points for that. It was a requirement.

So, I wrote back with a replica of my submission wherein I bolded all the sections that provided the answers and in parenthesis after each bolded section, I referenced the question so it was clear to her that yes, I did answer all the questions.

That should have been the end of it. She should have replied along the lines of, "my bad, fixed it, good work". But, no.

She replied that she did in fact miss it and I did answer the questions. However, it was my fault that she missed it because I did not write in the first person. Yes, that's right. She actually said this.  She then added that she was willing to allow me to resubmit and in my new submission, just restate everything using first person pronouns.

No idea why she missed it in the first place, or why she felt the need to blame me for her error except that she may be the sort of person who can't admit fault.

In sum: I did the assignment and got full marks except she said she was forced to dock me because I failed to answer the assigned questions. I proved to her that I did answer the questions and she agreed. She then blamed me for her failure to notice it the first time and required me to resubmit a new paper, rewritten in the first person, in order to get the A I deserved in the first place.

So I got out. I don't want to be in a class where I have to write perfectly good submissions twice. I don't want to be in a class with an unethical professor.

[LevelUP]

Maybe it was an honest mistake that she did miss it. But, although things could have been handled better, she did give you the chance to resubmit for a better grade.

When you turned in the original paper, did you bold the titles for each paragraph section?

For example:

Introduce the Topic
This is the introduction of the topic, blah, blah, blah.

Discuss Your Topic
This is the discussion of the topic, blah, blah, blah. 

Keywords Used
The keywords used for the paper are blah, blah, blah.

Anyway, that's how I turn in papers to TESU so they don't get confused about what I'm answering.