BS and BA at the same time

[TheLibrarian]

Okay this might be a really stupid idea so tell me if it is. lol

I am getting a BA in history. I have my degree plan all mapped out. I was thinking, to make myself a bit more marketable since I'm old and have mostly customer service/healthcare experience, why not do a BS in management too (or even an associates in business, just something extra to give me a bit more. I think I would perfer the associates more than the bachelors since I plan to get a masters in history anyway). I have the time now to dedicate to two degrees so I figured this would be the best time. I am not sure how it would work:

I know I would need the capstone for both "schools" 
I am going to do a 16 credits at TESU to waive the RW fee. 
I also want to do the 9 credits to get the flat rate tuition.

Now I know that the capstones are a lot of work. The way that its written on their website, I need to complete 16 credits before graduation to be eligible for the waiver. So I was thinking, do it in 2 sessions. One session do 9 credits, one being a capstone. Then the next session do 9 credits and the second capstone? That would give me the flat rate and the two sessions combined would give me the waiver requirements

Is this an option? 
How much extra work would this be? 
Are my gen eds/electives shared between both?
I know of something called a dual major, I dont know if that would be better?
I dont even know how to degree plan for either option. 

Please give me your thoughts and tell me if this is a dumb idea.

If I only get one degree it will be the history degree and I will NOT being going into teaching. I want to work in a library or a museum. I am up for getting a masters but that wont be for a few years so I need to make sure I can get a decent job in the mean time.

Attached is my history degree plan and you can let me know what you think. There are no additional classes I have done that are not listed here.

[rachel83az]

If you do it in two terms, it should be quite manageable. But 9 credits per term doesn't provide that much savings vs. the per credit rate. It would probably make more sense financially to do a 13 or 16-credit term with cornerstone, one capstone, PLA-100, and three more classes of your choice. Then do a term with just the other capstone. That would get you to 16 or 19 credits for TESU, making sure you don't have to pay the waiver.

If you mean a BSBA (this is NOT the same as a plain BS), that's fine. Most BS degrees cannot be obtained via alternate credit, but you can get a BSBA easily enough. It just takes a few more classes at Sophia/SDC to obtain.

Gen Ed requirements are more or less the same between the BA and BSBA degrees, too. There is a slight difference in the number of electives but business has the business core while BA history has AOS requirements.

[Flelm]

I'm saying this as a recent TESU grad: If I were to start again, I would seriously consider UMPI over TESU. If you enjoy writing papers, UMPI is more straight forward. If you prefer testing out, TESU is still the better bet, but you'll need to really work on your own plan. That being said, I'm a good tester and am fine at writing, so I probably would've still done TESU.

You really need to decide the end goal first. Yes, two 9-credit terms at TESU are an option, but you'll pay the flat rate for each term, doubling your cost. We tell people to cram 16 credits into a single term so they only pay the one tuition charge. Most/all of a BSBA (there's a few concentrations) can be done between Sophia/Study.com. If you want a BS in Organizational Leadership, you'll need to take at least some courses with TESU. If you just want an Associate's in Business, that's a pretty easy addition to a BA History.

If you want a more straightforward approach, and enjoy writing, I would look at a BA in History/PoliSci with UMPI, and pair that with a BABA in Management & Leadership or a BALS with a Management Minor. I'm not familiar with their degree plans, but those should put you on the right track.

[TheLibrarian]

If you do it in two terms, it should be quite manageable. But 9 credits per term doesn't provide that much savings vs. the per credit rate. It would probably make more sense financially to do a 13 or 16-credit term with cornerstone, one capstone, PLA-100, and three more classes of your choice. Then do a term with just the other capstone. That would get you to 16 or 19 credits for TESU, making sure you don't have to pay the waiver.

If you mean a BSBA (this is NOT the same as a plain BS), that's fine. Most BS degrees cannot be obtained via alternate credit, but you can get a BSBA easily enough. It just takes a few more classes at Sophia/SDC to obtain.

Gen Ed requirements are more or less the same between the BA and BSBA degrees, too. There is a slight difference in the number of electives but business has the business core while BA history has AOS requirements.

What is a BSBA? This additional degree is not a must, just an idea I had that might make me a bit more marketable. I would prefer to do it in one term but if I do 2 bachelors, I dont know how hard two capstones will be in one term

I looked up the BSBA and maybe an associates added on would just be easier, depending whats involved in how to do it



Flelm
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I'm saying this as a recent TESU grad: If I were to start again, I would seriously consider UMPI over TESU. If you enjoy writing papers, UMPI is more straight forward. If you prefer testing out, TESU is still the better bet, but you'll need to really work on your own plan. That being said, I'm a good tester and am fine at writing, so I probably would've still done TESU.

You really need to decide the end goal first. Yes, two 9-credit terms at TESU are an option, but you'll pay the flat rate for each term, doubling your cost. We tell people to cram 16 credits into a single term so they only pay the one tuition charge. Most/all of a BSBA (there's a few concentrations) can be done between Sophia/Study.com. If you want a BS in Organizational Leadership, you'll need to take at least some courses with TESU. If you just want an Associate's in Business, that's a pretty easy addition to a BA History.

If you want a more straightforward approach, and enjoy writing, I would look at a BA in History/PoliSci with UMPI, and pair that with a BABA in Management & Leadership or a BALS with a Management Minor. I'm not familiar with their degree plans, but those should put you on the right track.
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I am not interested in UMPI  but thank you for that suggestion. I just don't know how to add the Associate to my history plan? Just by taking the classes listed in the core section? Its only 6 and it doesn't look like theres a capstone? I think getting an associates would be a little bit easier than an additional bachelors.

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I'm saying this as a recent TESU grad: If I were to start again, I would seriously consider UMPI over TESU. If you enjoy writing papers, UMPI is more straight forward. If you prefer testing out, TESU is still the better bet, but you'll need to really work on your own plan. That being said, I'm a good tester and am fine at writing, so I probably would've still done TESU.

You really need to decide the end goal first. Yes, two 9-credit terms at TESU are an option, but you'll pay the flat rate for each term, doubling your cost. We tell people to cram 16 credits into a single term so they only pay the one tuition charge. Most/all of a BSBA (there's a few concentrations) can be done between Sophia/Study.com. If you want a BS in Organizational Leadership, you'll need to take at least some courses with TESU. If you just want an Associate's in Business, that's a pretty easy addition to a BA History.

If you want a more straightforward approach, and enjoy writing, I would look at a BA in History/PoliSci with UMPI, and pair that with a BABA in Management & Leadership or a BALS with a Management Minor. I'm not familiar with their degree plans, but those should put you on the right track.

I am not interested in UMPI  but thank you for that suggestion. I just don't know how to add the Associate to my history plan? Just by taking the classes listed in the core section? Its only 6 and it doesn't look like theres a capstone? I think getting an associates would be a little bit easier than an additional bachelors.

I DONT KNOW WHY THIS POSTED TWICE

[Flelm]

A BSBA is a Bachelors of Science in Business Administration. TESU offers further concentrations for this degree.

Yes, you can just take the courses and apply for a second degree when you graduate. If you want to make it more "official" you can ask advising to add both the BA History and ASBA plans to your OSS profile, and you can track them on the website. The Associate's in Business Administration is very straightforward and doesn't involve an additional capstone.

[TheLibrarian]

A BSBA is a Bachelors of Science in Business Administration. TESU offers further concentrations for this degree.

Yes, you can just take the courses and apply for a second degree when you graduate. If you want to make it more "official" you can ask advising to add both the BA History and ASBA plans to your OSS profile, and you can track them on the website. The Associate's in Business Administration is very straightforward and doesn't involve an additional capstone.

Yes I was just looking at the courses required for the associates and because I didn't take business law thru sophia, I actaully only have one class for that. *face palm* but I can easily work the others in there and I'm going to be doing the 16 credit term so the CIS will be getting done anyway. So it just leaves me 4 classes to sort out. Thanks so much.

[rachel83az]

For the ASBA, beyond what you'd need to get for a history degree, you'd need:

ACC-101 - Accounting @ Sophia
ACC-102 - Managerial Accounting @ InstantCert or SDC
CIS-107 - ePack as part of 16 credit term
Business Law @ Sophia (actually pretty interesting, IMO; I think it might actually be fun for someone who likes history)
Principles of Management - Business 101: Principles of Management @ SDC OR MAN-101 Principles of Management @ Davar
Intro to Marketing: BS101 - Business-Introduction to Strategy & Marketing @ OnlineDegree.com (I think; there's an updated course mapping that I can't find now) OR Business 102: Principles of Marketing @ SDC OR MAR-101 Introduction to Marketing @ Davar

[LevelUP]

Okay this might be a really stupid idea so tell me if it is. lol

I am getting a BA in history. I have my degree plan all mapped out. I was thinking, to make myself a bit more marketable since I'm old and have mostly customer service/healthcare experience, why not do a BS in management too (or even an associates in business, just something extra to give me a bit more. I think I would perfer the associates more than the bachelors since I plan to get a masters in history anyway). I have the time now to dedicate to two degrees so I figured this would be the best time. I am not sure how it would work:

I know I would need the capstone for both "schools" 
I am going to do a 16 credits at TESU to waive the RW fee. 
I also want to do the 9 credits to get the flat rate tuition.

Now I know that the capstones are a lot of work. The way that its written on their website, I need to complete 16 credits before graduation to be eligible for the waiver. So I was thinking, do it in 2 sessions. One session do 9 credits, one being a capstone. Then the next session do 9 credits and the second capstone? That would give me the flat rate and the two sessions combined would give me the waiver requirements

Is this an option? 
How much extra work would this be? 
Are my gen eds/electives shared between both?
I know of something called a dual major, I dont know if that would be better?
I dont even know how to degree plan for either option. 

Please give me your thoughts and tell me if this is a dumb idea.

If I only get one degree it will be the history degree and I will NOT being going into teaching. I want to work in a library or a museum. I am up for getting a masters but that wont be for a few years so I need to make sure I can get a decent job in the mean time.

Attached is my history degree plan and you can let me know what you think. There are no additional classes I have done that are not listed here.

Is this an option? Yes
How much extra work would this be? Depends on how long it takes you to complete the courses. 
Are my gen eds/electives shared between both? Yes, the only restriction is the overlap is in the AOS.
I know of something called a dual major, I dont know if that would be better? Dual major avoids the extra capstone requirements.  Better or worse depends on your individual situation. 
I dont even know how to degree plan for either option. People here can help with that.

Please give me your thoughts and tell me if this is a dumb idea.  Not a dumb idea, follow your heart what you think is right for you.

The associate's degree is free so adding one on isn't a bad idea.  I'm usually in favor of planning things out both ways, #1 if you only do the BA History or #2 if you go for the BA History + Associates business/or BSBA

The new BA History that came out July 1, 2021 is slightly different than the old one.  You are going to need 12 credits of Humanities inside the AOS  which makes the AOS 42 credits versus 33.  And there are 30 total free elective credits. (General Ed electives are gone now)  They still haven't updated the online degrees on the TESU site which is going to make it confusing for a lot of new students. 

[dfrecore]

I don't think that getting an ASBA will do a single thing for your career, but since it won't cost anything extra, it's not a terrible thing to do. Adding on a full BSBA seems like a waste of time/money to me, considering that you are going to get a MA in History - save your money for that.

[TheLibrarian]

Okay this might be a really stupid idea so tell me if it is. lol

I am getting a BA in history. I have my degree plan all mapped out. I was thinking, to make myself a bit more marketable since I'm old and have mostly customer service/healthcare experience, why not do a BS in management too (or even an associates in business, just something extra to give me a bit more. I think I would perfer the associates more than the bachelors since I plan to get a masters in history anyway). I have the time now to dedicate to two degrees so I figured this would be the best time. I am not sure how it would work:

I know I would need the capstone for both "schools" 
I am going to do a 16 credits at TESU to waive the RW fee. 
I also want to do the 9 credits to get the flat rate tuition.

Now I know that the capstones are a lot of work. The way that its written on their website, I need to complete 16 credits before graduation to be eligible for the waiver. So I was thinking, do it in 2 sessions. One session do 9 credits, one being a capstone. Then the next session do 9 credits and the second capstone? That would give me the flat rate and the two sessions combined would give me the waiver requirements

Is this an option? 
How much extra work would this be? 
Are my gen eds/electives shared between both?
I know of something called a dual major, I dont know if that would be better?
I dont even know how to degree plan for either option. 

Please give me your thoughts and tell me if this is a dumb idea.

If I only get one degree it will be the history degree and I will NOT being going into teaching. I want to work in a library or a museum. I am up for getting a masters but that wont be for a few years so I need to make sure I can get a decent job in the mean time.

Attached is my history degree plan and you can let me know what you think. There are no additional classes I have done that are not listed here.

Is this an option? Yes
How much extra work would this be? Depends on how long it takes you to complete the courses. 
Are my gen eds/electives shared between both? Yes, the only restriction is the overlap is in the AOS.
I know of something called a dual major, I dont know if that would be better? Dual major avoids the extra capstone requirements.  Better or worse depends on your individual situation. 
I dont even know how to degree plan for either option. People here can help with that.

Please give me your thoughts and tell me if this is a dumb idea.  Not a dumb idea, follow your heart what you think is right for you.

The associate's degree is free so adding one on isn't a bad idea.  I'm usually in favor of planning things out both ways, #1 if you only do the BA History or #2 if you go for the BA History + Associates business/or BSBA

The new BA History that came out July 1, 2021 is slightly different than the old one.  You are going to need 12 credits of Humanities inside the AOS  which makes the AOS 42 credits versus 33.  And there are 30 total free elective credits. (General Ed electives are gone now)  They still haven't updated the online degrees on the TESU site which is going to make it confusing for a lot of new students. 

Can you explain the last part to me a bit more in detail I dont understand what that means. I have 11 history classes I am taking. Some LL and some UL is that not enough?