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bluebooger Wrote:sorry, I don't think that's impressive at all
an MBA with ZERO work experience ?
that can't be worth the paper it's printed on
that's like having a CICSO cert without ever having touched a router
or an Oracle cert without having logged onto a database
I don't disagree with this, except that as the kid matures and adds experience he will already have the pedigree, so there is value.
I'm still waiting to hear what schools these are because the fact that they let them into the MBA program without any experience makes my spidey senses tingle.
The MBA is kind of a one off, I wouldn't generally say that seeking a Masters right after earning the BA/BS is a bad thing for a youngster. There are factors that can make going right into the masters work attractive and useful.
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bluebooger Wrote:sorry, I don't think that's impressive at all
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, regardless of what little value it holds. At a time when 1.2 million kids drop out of high school every year, and only 25% of high school students graduate on time, I think it's remarkable that a person has completed two Bachelor's degrees and a Master's degree by age 22.
But, hey, let's beat someone up for being motivated to succeed. Kudos to you.
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dmjacobsen Wrote:You're certainly entitled to your opinion, regardless of what little value it holds. At a time when 1.2 million kids drop out of high school every year, and only 25% of high school students graduate on time, I think it's remarkable that a person has completed two Bachelor's degrees and a Master's degree by age 22.
But, hey, let's beat someone up for being motivated to succeed. Kudos to you.
hey, for $499.99 I could probably get an MBA with no work experience too
and if I call now, I can get a PhD for 10 easy payments of $199.99
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I'd also like to hear what schools these degrees are from
there's motivated and there's "something's fishy"
what school is going to let you enroll in an MBA program at age 21 with zero work experience
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11-13-2015, 01:20 PM
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bluebooger Wrote:sorry, I don't think that's impressive at all
an MBA with ZERO work experience ?
that can't be worth the paper it's printed on
that's like having a CICSO cert without ever having touched a router
or an Oracle cert without having logged onto a database
How do you touch a business?
An MBA is an academic credential based in theory and is not application based. Someone can easily research and write on business without actually running a business.
Computers and their networks all have their roots in computational theory. The system for a router was designed before anyone TOUCHED a router. Likewise, an MBA may learn and advise on strategies without ever having ran a business. So yes, getting an MBA without work experience is a feat, but I get what you're saying, experience is very important.
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bluebooger Wrote:hey, for $499.99 I could probably get an MBA with no work experience too
and if I call now, I can get a PhD for 10 easy payments of $199.99
operators are standing by
I'd also like to hear what schools these degrees are from
there's motivated and there's "something's fishy"
what school is going to let you enroll in an MBA program at age 21 with zero work experience
I don't think it's fair to assume that OP has bought degrees from mills. That's quite an indictment with such little evidence. If, indeed, OP has bought his degrees from a mill, then I'll certainly admit that I was horribly wrong and misguided in congratulating OP for those accomplishments. However, a brief look at his posting history shows that he's had interest in Champlain College's MBA and a number of other accredited schools. I see no evidence that OP has any interest in degree mills.
I do not argue against investigating issues -- such as accreditation -- that may be impeding OP's ability to land a good job. But, let's do so without disparaging him and/or making ridiculous statements about tangential issues.
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I personally know of a major state university enrolling a student with no work experience into an MBA program at age 21. He had a GMAT score of 98th percentile if I recall correctly. He even got fellowships, was highly regarded and went to work for a Fortune 10 company after graduation.
Not only that, he used his lack of experience to his advantage in job interviews. "What is your greatest weakness?" My greatest weakness is obvious - my lack of work experience. That's why I'm being very careful in considering what companies I should work for. What can you tell me about your company's commitment to employee development?
Hey, onlinestudent101, go make some lemonade out of those lemons bluebooger found.
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Okay, kids. Play nice. I'm green with envy that a 22-year old has a bachelor's degree, and couldn't describe the color of my envy at the MBA. As not all MBA programs require business experience to enroll, the degree may be from a reputable institution.
That said, many folks who hire want to see some work experience in a field before you get your master's degree. To my way of thinking, that's a good idea as you have a foundation upon which to build a deeper understanding of the theory. An example is attorneys. Many graduate from law school having read cases on appeal (theory), but have no legal experience. The day-to-day of a courtroom can come as quite a shock.
The suggestions about volunteering and not including the MBA are excellent. Depending on your area of interest, you might consider applying for some sort of executive assistant position. That way you can learn all the ins and outs of a business or industry, and go from there.
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I'd sure like to know where those degrees came from!
Reason: The OP has been a "degree-hunter" over at the other forum for some time. I've read his back posts. 3 months ago, he wrote there that he was 10 courses short of a Bachelor's at Kaplan (employer was paying) and wondered if they'd let him start on a master's before graduation. Here's a quote, Aug. 26, 2015:
"Has anyone completed the Bachelor of Science in Business Administration degree from Kaplan University ? My employer is paying the tuition. I have transfer credits and was told I need 10 more classes to complete the degree..."
WOW - 10 courses down, a completed BS PLUS an MBA in LESS THAN THREE MONTHS? Incredible progress! How does that happen?
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I like how some people here have taken it upon themselves to be degree police. What if the OP is just projecting a fear into a future hypothetical? What if he is assuming he won't have any experience by the time he's done? What if he did get the degrees from a mill, or from an accredited institution in the past three months? People can and have gone very far with unaccredited degrees. For some jobs it just doesn't matter. It's none of our business. Asking where he got the degrees out of curiosity is one thing, but the accusatory tones don't have any place here.
At the heart of all this is a simple question about a career roadmap for someone with a lack of experience. That's it. Can't we just answer the question maybe with a note like, "assuming the degrees are accredited...?"
Back on topic, I agree with the volunteer work idea and trying to find internships and training programs. Disney does one for instance and it's highly regarded.
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bluebooger Wrote:sorry, I don't think that's impressive at all
an MBA with ZERO work experience ?
that can't be worth the paper it's printed on
that's like having a CICSO cert without ever having touched a router
or an Oracle cert without having logged onto a database
Do you work in hiring?
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