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But it's going to be Christianity-grounded, plus you're getting a degree faster and for less. That's what many CP students love about CP.
Sanantone, what are the problems you have with CP? Can you explain?
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Westerner Wrote:But it's going to be Christianity-grounded, plus you're getting a degree faster and for less. That's what many CP students love about CP.
Sanantone, what are the problems you have with CP? Can you explain?
I explained in several posts the problems I have with CP, but if people think it's worth $3,000+, then so be it.
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05-06-2013, 09:15 PM
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sanantone Wrote:...if people think it's worth $3,000+, then so be it. Okay. That I agree with ![Confused Confused](https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/images/smilies/confused.png) milelol: And I do think it was worth the money because without it, I probably would've been slogging through a 4-year degree from a local community college right now banghead :roflol:
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I'm about to get a little off-topic. I think the Big 3 are great options for adult learners with work experience who just need to check the box or want to quickly move on to grad school. For people straight out of high school, I think they should go to a traditional college if they can. If I had to do it all over again, I would have attended the local community colleges at about $1500 a year at the time and then moved on to a state university. I would have graduated with little debt since I qualified for the maximum Pell Grant award. Instead, went to work full-time at a fast food restaurant and filled out an information form for University of Phoenix almost a year after graduating from high school. I wanted to become a history teacher and the sales person..ahem...I mean admissions advisor told me to do the AS in Business Administration program at Axia College to get my gen eds out of the way. That threw me way off track and ran up the student loan debt fast. It took me 7 years to finish my bachelor's degree. Did I mention that I HATE UoP and the Apollo Group?
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sanantone Wrote:I'm about to get a little off-topic. I think the Big 3 are great options for adult learners with work experience who just need to check the box or want to quickly move on to grad school. For people straight out of high school, I think they should go to a traditional college if they can. If I had to do it all over again, I would have attended the local community colleges at about $1500 a year at the time and then moved on to a state university. I would have graduated with little debt since I qualified for the maximum Pell Grant award. Instead, went to work full-time at a fast food restaurant and filled out an information form for University of Phoenix almost a year after graduating from high school. I wanted to become a history teacher and the sales person..ahem...I mean admissions advisor told me to do the AS in Business Administration program at Axia College to get my gen eds out of the way. That threw me way off track and ran up the student loan debt fast. It took me 7 years to finish my bachelor's degree. Did I mention that I HATE UoP and the Apollo Group? ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/images/smilies/biggrin.png)
Well, as someone just out of highschool and doing this, I'd much rather do this then going the traditional route for several reasons.
-I obtain my degree faster and cheaper, allowing me to get ahead of most of my peers, career wise and financially.
-I've the option, and many people like me, choose to take advantage of this option, which is with doing college like this, it's extremely flexible which allows for obtaining a job and real life experience. Maybe not just working as a waiter or flipping burgers somewhere, but getting an internship which will the help. IMO, the degree will nicely compliment the experience (and visa versa). And, yes, you can get internships and jobs whatnot going the traditional route, but it's much more easy and possible when college is flexible.
-I don't feel like wasting the first 2 years of college doing the same thing I've been doing for the last 4.
-I don't feel like getting all the other junk that comes with college. It's a 5 year party (which actually the name of a book a prof wrote), and if that's what people are after, there's much cheaper alternatives if that's how you want to waste your time.
-I appreciate the skills I've gained that doing college this way has provided me. There are no terms, no due dates for a CLEP, no assignments, no lectures, no timeline. Same thing for the degree it self. Here's a pile of work, do it. To do it, you've got to have a lot things you don't need when you're being spoon fed it in college.
-It sets you apart. When 1 out 2 college grads can't get a job, what's going to set you apart? When you can say, "Well hey, I'm 2-3 years younger then most other grads, and I did something different. I researched, I dedicated myself, and didn't waste my time drinking and partying. I sought the best use of my time, my money, and my resources and accomplished what I set out for AND I'll do the same for you." That's going to say something, and set you apart from the average college grad. Why? Cause it's more then just words, it took actions, work, to do it.
Sure there are things I may be missing out, some cons perhaps. But nothing that you can hold a candle to IMHO. Everyone has there own opinion, but for me personally, I don't have any regrets about this.
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05-06-2013, 11:21 PM
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Publius Wrote:Well, as someone just out of highschool and doing this, I'd much rather do this then going the traditional route for several reasons.
-I obtain my degree faster and cheaper, allowing me to get ahead of most of my peers, career wise and financially.
-I've the option, and many people like me, choose to take advantage of this option, which is with doing college like this, it's extremely flexible which allows for obtaining a job and real life experience. Maybe not just working as a waiter or flipping burgers somewhere, but getting an internship which will the help. IMO, the degree will nicely compliment the experience (and visa versa). And, yes, you can get internships and jobs whatnot going the traditional route, but it's much more easy and possible when college is flexible.
-I don't feel like wasting the first 2 years of college doing the same thing I've been doing for the last 4.
-I don't feel like getting all the other junk that comes with college. It's a 5 year party (which actually the name of a book a prof wrote), and if that's what people are after, there's much cheaper alternatives if that's how you want to waste your time.
-I appreciate the skills I've gained that doing college this way has provided me. There are no terms, no due dates for a CLEP, no assignments, no lectures, no timeline. Same thing for the degree it self. Here's a pile of work, do it. To do it, you've got to have a lot things you don't need when you're being spoon fed it in college.
-It sets you apart. When 1 out 2 college grads can't get a job, what's going to set you apart? When you can say, "Well hey, I'm 2-3 years younger then most other grads, and I did something different. I researched, I dedicated myself, and didn't waste my time drinking and partying. I sought the best use of my time, my money, and my resources and accomplished what I set out for AND I'll do the same for you." That's going to say something, and set you apart from the average college grad. Why? Cause it's more then just words, it took actions, work, to do it.
Sure there are things I may be missing out, some cons perhaps. But nothing that you can hold a candle to IMHO. Everyone has there own opinion, but for me personally, I don't have any regrets about this.
There's no drinking and partying at community colleges. Since I rarely drink and I'm an introvert, I would have not partaken in those activities. Besides, the local state universities where I live are commuter schools. Even with all of my work experience, I'm still being beat out in this job market by people with even more experience, so I don't see how being younger with less experience would help me. But what possibly could have helped me was going to a school with name recognition in the region and internships set up by the university. Over a year after getting my bachelor's degree and becoming registered as a licensed chemical dependency counselor intern, I still can't get an internship to become fully licensed.
My family was poor and I held jobs that paid a little above minimum wage when I was younger. Paying $100 or whatever it used to cost for one test would have meant that we wouldn't have money for food that week. There was no way I could have afforded to completely test out of a degree and pay the enrollment fees plus the tuition for whatever capstones at the Big 3. I did use leftover financial aid to pay for my TESC enrollment fee, but I also had a lot of transfer credits, so I didn't need as many tests. If I had started from scratch, I would have needed to attend a college for at least two years to get enough financial aid to afford the tests and pay for the enrollment. How much do the cheapest degrees at the Big 3 cost? $4,000-$6000? And there wasn't FEMA and ALEKS back then. By the time I would have saved that up, I could have completed two years at a CC for free.
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sanantone Wrote:I HATE UoP and the Apollo Group? ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/images/smilies/biggrin.png) Ha! Took 10 pages, but we have a winner here. Something I can agree with in almost even very way.
(To be honest I only skimmed the last 5 pages.....sort of a boring thread after a bit)
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sanantone Wrote:Did I mention that I HATE [...]? ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/images/smilies/biggrin.png) Not again!! ;-) :p But I agree with Publius
Publius Wrote:Well, as someone just out of highschool and doing this, I'd much rather do this then going the traditional route for several reasons.
-I obtain my degree faster and cheaper, allowing me to get ahead of most of my peers, career wise and financially.
-I've the option, and many people like me, choose to take advantage of this option, which is with doing college like this, it's extremely flexible which allows for obtaining a job and real life experience. Maybe not just working as a waiter or flipping burgers somewhere, but getting an internship which will the help. IMO, the degree will nicely compliment the experience (and visa versa). And, yes, you can get internships and jobs whatnot going the traditional route, but it's much more easy and possible when college is flexible.
-I don't feel like wasting the first 2 years of college doing the same thing I've been doing for the last 4.
-I don't feel like getting all the other junk that comes with college. It's a 5 year party (which actually the name of a book a prof wrote), and if that's what people are after, there's much cheaper alternatives if that's how you want to waste your time.
-I appreciate the skills I've gained that doing college this way has provided me. There are no terms, no due dates for a CLEP, no assignments, no lectures, no timeline. Same thing for the degree it self. Here's a pile of work, do it. To do it, you've got to have a lot things you don't need when you're being spoon fed it in college.
-It sets you apart. When 1 out 2 college grads can't get a job, what's going to set you apart? When you can say, "Well hey, I'm 2-3 years younger then most other grads, and I did something different. I researched, I dedicated myself, and didn't waste my time drinking and partying. I sought the best use of my time, my money, and my resources and accomplished what I set out for AND I'll do the same for you." That's going to say something, and set you apart from the average college grad. Why? Cause it's more then just words, it took actions, work, to do it.
Sure there are things I may be missing out, some cons perhaps. But nothing that you can hold a candle to IMHO. Everyone has there own opinion, but for me personally, I don't have any regrets about this. It might not have worked for you, Sanantone, but testing out is the best thing since sliced bread for me and a lot of other homeschoolers :coolgleam:
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"There is still hope." ~TTT
"Courage..." "This day, we fight!" ~RotK
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Westerner Wrote:Not again!! ;-) :p But I agree with Publius ![Cool Cool](https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/images/smilies/cool.png)
It might not have worked for you, Sanantone, but testing out is the best thing since sliced bread for me and a lot of other homeschoolers :coolgleam:
Yep, CP is able to "help" those who have money. Thank goodness there are grants and student loans for the kids who need the most help.
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sanantone Wrote:Yep, CP is able to "help" those who have money. Thank goodness there are grants and student loans for the kids who need the most help. And want a B&M degree. And that's fine. Homeschoolers and CP'ers have their reasons for wanting the distance degree.
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"It is our fight." ~DoS
"I am not alone." ~BotFA
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"There is still hope." ~TTT
"Courage..." "This day, we fight!" ~RotK
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