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Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - PriTyan - 08-23-2006

I hope someone can explain to my how the hell I failed this test this morning. When I say FAILED I mean FAILED- I did not get over 50% on any of the three sections.

I don't recall exactly what each three sections read (print out is in my car), but I got like %30, 49% and 47%. Most of the questions were common sense. I probably would have scored better if I just arbitrarily guessed at each question.

I checked the Military pass rate on this exam and it was like 89%.

I used Instacert and the DSST Prep guide, but there were no questions on the exam that was not covered in this material.

Nonetheless, what is the retake procedure for ECE Exams. Do I have to wait 6 months like the CLEP?

PriTyan Sad Sad Sad Sad

Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - Braylen - 08-23-2006

Yikes - that's kind of scary, as it's one of the exams I want to take next, and I was probably entering it a bit too overconfident.

As you were taking the test, did you feel you were doing well, or were the questions harder than you expected or covering unfamiliar material?

I have been a bit nervous about using prep designed for a lower level DSST to prepare for an upper level ECE exam. Perhaps this helps explain your surprising result.

Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - snazzlefrag - 08-23-2006

Hi PriTyan,

I'm sorry to hear you had a bad day today. I can imagine how you must be feeling right now.

Please don't let it get you down though. These things happen. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and get back on yer bike. Okay?

Don't stop pedaling!

The good news is that I think Excelsior allows you to retake an exam after 60 days the first time, and 120 days if you fail a second time. You are allowed to take each exam up to three times in one year.

Keep your chin up,
Snazzlefrag

Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - PriTyan - 08-23-2006

I expected to have questions that I did not know primary because of the study materials. I used lower lever study material for ECE Ethics and ECE HRM and got at least a (B) on both tests. As I was taking the test, it seemed to be going well and I expected to receive a (B) based on the questions I was asked. A good number of the questions were very simple and almost directly out of Instacert.

Braylen Wrote:I have been a bit nervous about using prep designed for a lower level DSST to prepare for an upper level ECE exam. Perhaps this helps explain your surprising result.
This is my thought exactly. Perhaps the DSST study materials touched on a theory adequately for the lower level exam, but more in-depth knowledge was necessary for the ECE version.

But this does not explain that other have had success with only using Instacert materials.

Perhaps it was a combination of the study materials, my studying habits, hours put in at work and my lack of sleep. I have a new born at home that keeps me up at night and I “rushed” into this test because my testing center will no longer provide ECE tests after August 31st. Today’s test was the only slot available for the rest of the month. That does not mean that I studied any less for this test than others, but perhaps it was the combination of these external stressors.

I need to acquire some additional study materials but hate to spend the $200 on the text books Excelsior recommends.

PriTyan

Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - PriTyan - 08-23-2006

I’m definitely disheartened. I should be grateful that this is the only exam I’ve failed (to-date). The problem is that I’m so close to graduating, that this now put a damper on my time frame.

snazzlefrag Wrote:The good news is that I think Excelsior allows you to retake an exam after 60 days the first time, and 120 days if you fail a second time. You are allowed to take each exam up to three times in one year.

Well, that is a bit of good news. I’ll try to finish up the remaining exams and wait the 60 days to retake this test.

I have an Individualized CPS with COSC. Is this changeable once it has been approved? Can a new one be submitted?

Thanks for your upbeat words. I’ll do my best to keep my chin up as you suggested.

PriTyan

Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - MagicATC - 08-23-2006

Sorry to hear the news. I felt the same way about other tests I took too. No worries though, I have many other tests to pick from. Even if I fail a few(which I have) it is still way better then sitting in class wasting money and hearing some old fart indoctrinate these kids with immoral views while others like us have been around for a while. I hope you can agree. Good luck on your next one and don't over study it!Big Grin

How does ECE tests work with getting results that fast? Was yours on a computer? I haven't taken one yet.

Also congrats on the newborn. I too just got one on the 10th. Big Grin

-Magic

Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - DanK - 08-23-2006

PriTyan, I just took the test yesterday and passed. I used mostly the IC stuff, plus I read the DSST overview once. I decided to do the IC a little differently this time because I really don't like the IC format. I took written notes from most of the IC screens. Then I reviewed those notes - although I did look at the IC screens a couple of times. The IC content was definitely more specific than the DSST overview.

I found that the OB test has some very specific questions about the different theories, and that is what the ECE Exam Content guide indicated. Did you feel that you really new enough about the specific theories to answer the question correctly? I know that for a couple, I had to quess, but it seems that I did know enough

I did get a few questions that were not in my study material and a few questions that seemed like a toss up. Some questions seemed to be little more than opinion.

According to their website, ECE requires a wait of 60 days for a retest after the first failue, then 120 days after the next failure:
https://www.excelsior.edu/portal/page?_pageid=57,86131&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

I'm sorry to hear that you failed and I hope that you do better next time, it may also be that you got some pretty crappy questions. As an additional resource I recall that somebody here posted a link to a pretty decent set of course notes for OB - I think that it was for a college course.

I'm just curious, were did you get the infor regarding the military pass rate? Was it for ECE or DSST?

Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - snazzlefrag - 08-23-2006

MagicATC Wrote:Also congrats on the newborn. I too just got one on the 10th.

Apparently, studying for exams also improves your sex life!
hilarious

Congratulations to both of you on the new additions,
Snazzlefrag

Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - PriTyan - 08-23-2006

MagicATC Wrote:How does ECE tests work with getting results that fast? Was yours on a computer? I haven't taken one yet.

Also congrats on the newborn. I too just got one on the 10th. Big Grin

My ECE test was taken at Thomson Prometric and was computer based. I got my results immediately. Similar to a CLEP.

Congrats on your newborn Magic. Are you getting as much sleep as I am Wink

DanK Wrote:Did you feel that you really new enough about the specific theories to answer the question correctly? I know that for a couple, I had to quess, but it seems that I did know enough

After studying Instacert and reading the DSST guide, I took the POSTTEST questions in the DSST guide and over 80% correct. I felt confident.

Thanks for the link back to Excelsior for confirmation on what snaz has posted.

DanK Wrote:I'm sorry to hear that you failed and I hope that you do better next time, it may also be that you got some pretty crappy questions. As an additional resource I recall that somebody here posted a link to a pretty decent set of course notes for OB - I think that it was for a college course.

I saw that linked over at degreefourm.com and now have it book marked for my retest. I think this is the link you are referring to:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1650/htmlobtoc02.html

DanK Wrote:I'm just curious, were did you get the infor regarding the military pass rate? Was it for ECE or DSST?

This is a link I found over at Degreeforum.com and can not vouch for its validity, but its good information to have.

http://www.voled.doded.mil/dantes_web/examinations/ece2-text.htm


PriTyan

Organizational Behavior - ECE - *FAILED* - DanK - 08-23-2006

PriTyan,

Yes, that OB coursenote website is the one that I was thinking about - Mr. Ratzburg. It looks pretty good. That other info on the pass rate looks interesting. I had to laugh when I saw the pass rate for the ECE statistics test - 12%. When I signed up with ECE, the person at ECE told me that I was very brave to take that test! Thanks for the confidence booster, ECE.

I only did the pre-test Dantes OB questions, but they seemed MUCH easier than the questions in the OB Excelsior Content Guide's sample questions - as indicated by my scores on the two samples. It really seems as though the ECE test asks a lot more specific questions than does the DSST.

I know how you must feel. It must be difficult to fail when you think that you had the correct answers. It's one thing to fail when you know that you guessed...

All I can really offer is to study and try to do better next time. I do think that ENOUGH of the ECE required info is actually in the IC material, but you have to remember almost all of it - the ECE test question may revolve around part of the incidental answer in the IC material. That's why I took notes - so that I'd remember all of the incidental stuff. I can't really claim that it made a huge difference, or that's why I passed and you didn't (it could just be luck), but I DID notice in the ECE HRM test, that on many of the questions that I didn't know, the answer really WAS in the IC material. I just don't think that the IC material was well laid-out FOR ME.

Here's another link to a glossary of OB terms - hope this helps:

http://college.hmco.com/business/griffin/org/1e/students/vocab/glossary/glossary.html