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You guys will love this... - bmills072200 - 08-30-2008
Hey everyone...sorry I have been absent for so long. Apparently my company caught on to how much time I was spending on this discussion board during work, because last week this forum was blocked by the company web nanny...oh well...
Any way...I started my first 2 grad classes at JSU on Thursday. One class called Managerial Communications sounds pretty interesting and the professor seems pretty cool. My other class, on the other hand, is called Marketing 513 and the professor seems like a complete a-hole. Here are some exerpts from his opening message to the class...
[SIZE="5"]"For many of you this is your first graduate level class. Well, Dorothy, we aren’t in Kansas any more! Welcome to graduate school and graduate-level work.
I want to make certain all students in MKT513 understand the requirements and expectations for the class before we begin. You can expect preparation for this class, readings and assignments to dominate the next 14 or so weeks of your life. I expect that you will be spending 15 to 20 hours per week in completing the assignments, readings and tests. I know that many of you have jobs, but you chose to take the class on-line and will have to understand the requirements. I cannot and will not drop the standards for MKT513 because it is an on-line class and will require excellence in everything you do.
Reading is a key part of this class. You will find that every chapter in the book is assigned to be read. You will also find plenty of outside readings for each section of the class. Some of these readings and all the cases must be purchased from Harvard Business School On-line (HB On-line.) The cost is about $25. You are required to do the readings and then apply what we read to the assignments. Applicability of the readings (both chapters and outside readings) is essential to mastering marketing.
Note that this class will be very quantitative. It is based heavily on numbers, calculating the numbers and understanding the numbers. If you have never had an accounting or finance class this may be very difficult for you. It is essential that you have a good mathematical foundation and knowledge of MS-Excel before you begin this class. If you are not familiar with Excel, please find a book on it and begin to learn it - immediately. Seriously, the “MS-Excel for Dummies” series may be a good start. Spreadsheets are required as exhibits and support for almost every assignment.
Please look at the attached syllabus to see if this really what you want to do. I expect a commitment to excellence in your pursuit of the completion of the assignments in this class. Quality is important, not quantity. I expect concise, fact-filled, direct answers - no bull. Most of the assignments will have a page limit, thus forcing you to pick the most important issues in the assignment and prove your knowledge of them."[/SIZE]
Maybe I am reading this wrong, but this guy just sounds pissed off. He sounds like he is angry that he has to teach his grad class online and he is going to take it out on all of his students. Anyway...I thought you all might find this humorous, I did...I will have to grit my teeth and get through it...
BTW - I finally turned in all of my work for Op Management and I am waiting for my final grade...
I hope everyone is doing well...
Ben
You guys will love this... - jadechow - 08-30-2008
I agree with you when you said "he sounds angry". Man, what's his problem? Maybe he's just trying to "scare off" people who thought an online class would be a walk in the park. I'm sure you will do a terrific job with this class.
Best of luck to ya.
You guys will love this... - bmills072200 - 08-30-2008
jadechow Wrote:I agree with you when you said "he sounds angry". Man, what's his problem? Maybe he's just trying to "scare off" people who thought an online class would be a walk in the park. I'm sure you will do a terrific job with this class.
Best of luck to ya.
Thanks Jade
I can uderstand trying to scare undergrads new to online classes, but everyone in this class has a bachelors degree or will soon have a bachelors degree not to mention that most in the class are adults (30+)...I don't see the need for his scary tone...I'm sticking with
A-HOLE!
You guys will love this... - bawhitsett - 08-30-2008
I'm likely in the minority but I don't see anything wrong with what he wrote. He's being up front with what's expected for the class, that it's not a 100-level class and therefore 100-level work won't lead to a passing grade. Instructors like this make earning a degree that much more of an accomplishment. Good for him, and you for manning up and sticking with it.
You guys will love this... - Blitzstudie - 08-30-2008
Check this site fir him and see if there is any feedback on him RateMyProfessors.com
If he is really bad maybe you can take the class with a different prof.
You guys will love this... - bmills072200 - 08-30-2008
bawhitsett Wrote:I'm likely in the minority but I don't see anything wrong with what he wrote. He's being up front with what's expected for the class, that it's not a 100-level class and therefore 100-level work won't lead to a passing grade. Instructors like this make earning a degree that much more of an accomplishment. Good for him, and you for manning up and sticking with it.
I must disagree...I believe that a teacher has a responsibility to his students beyond just teaching the course material and that is the responsibility to encourage each student to achieve their best and to foster an environment that is condusive to learning. This teacher is setting up a negative and tense vibe from the outset. As I said before, if it was an undergrad level class with young students, I could partially understand a tone like the one he chose to take, but it is not appropriate in this situation.
You guys will love this... - jadechow - 08-30-2008
bmills072200 Wrote:This teacher is setting up a negative and tense vibe from the outset. As I said before, if it was an undergrad level class with young students, I could partially understand a tone like the one he chose to take, but it is not appropriate in this situation.
Not only is this instructor setting a negative tone right "out of the gate" but he/she is also really condescending. I mean the professor says himself, "this is graduate level work". Okay, well then treat your students like the grown-ups they are. Talking down to your students is a great way to motivate them, right?????? :confused:
You guys will love this... - peace123 - 08-30-2008
bmills072200 Wrote:"For many of you this is your first graduate level class. Well, Dorothy, we aren’t in Kansas any more! Welcome to graduate school and graduate-level work.
I want to make certain all students in MKT513 understand the requirements and expectations for the class before we begin. You can expect preparation for this class, readings and assignments to dominate the next 14 or so weeks of your life. I expect that you will be spending 15 to 20 hours per week in completing the assignments, readings and tests. I know that many of you have jobs, but you chose to take the class on-line and will have to understand the requirements. I cannot and will not drop the standards for MKT513 because it is an on-line class and will require excellence in everything you do.
Ok here is my 2 cents worth :
I take offense to his statement about "you chose to take the class online" and his assumption that online students expect lower standards in an online class. To me that is the worst thing he said, well that and the "your not in Kansas " remark, which to me seemed very arrogant.
Anyway, the rest was good information ( he honestly laid out what is expected, hours needed to achieve it, etc.) but I think he could have worded it better. I think he has forgotten he is providing a service. Like it or not he only has the teaching job if people sign up for his class, so being a bit nicer might help him in the future.
Peace123
You guys will love this... - bat21 - 08-30-2008
Is this Mr.Hand?
You guys will love this... - categ - 08-30-2008
No wonder we prefer testing. The only ego we have to battle with is our own.
