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UMPI Gen Ed Question - SCYankee - 01-12-2025

I'm finally looking at UMPI and seeing how there system is different than the other options in this space. 

They have a generic Gen Ed curriculum with 5 categories of learning, and several "objectives" each. 

At the beginning of the list, I was thinking each course listed was required. As I progressed 1/3 down the list, I realized that was way too many classes. The little blurb at the top of the page doesn't explain this. So here's my question:

In each objective, just one of the listed courses is required?

(And that includes the consideration that somes courses can pull double-duty and fill requirements for two objectives.)

RE: UMPI Gen Ed Question - jg_nuy - 01-12-2025

One course required and many courses fulfill more than one requirement. You need a total of 40 credits for the general education requirements.
For example:
If your CLEP for English Comp is the one with the essays, it will fulfill: 1A, 1B, 1D, 2C and 4B
Sophia: Communication at Work fulfills 1C
Sophia: Intro to Ethics fulfills 2A/2B/4C/4D
CLEP College Math fulfills: 3A, 3B
CLEP Natural Science fulfills: 3C

RE: UMPI Gen Ed Question - SCYankee - 01-12-2025

(01-12-2025, 07:03 PM)jg_nuy Wrote: One course required and many courses fulfill more than one requirement. You need a total of 40 credits for the general education requirements.
For example:
If your CLEP for English Comp is the one with the essays, it will fulfill: 1A, 1B, 1D, 2C and 4B
Sophia: Communication at Work fulfills 1C
Sophia: Intro to Ethics fulfills 2A/2B/4C/4D
CLEP College Math fulfills: 3A, 3B
CLEP Natural Science fulfills: 3C

It wasn't with the essay ): I did that years before this online stuff was even a thing, back when there was only that big book (I think it was called "Bear's Guide...") that told all about TESU and whatever Excelsior used to be named.

But I digress...

So as long as I can fulfill at least one of the courses from each objective (minimum of 40 credits) I'm good to go on the Gen Eds. Got it.

And then, let's just say I or somebody else was able to do it with just 40 credits. Surely that 40, and then the BA/BS requirements (meaning the reqs for, let's say, Business Admin degree) wouldn't be enough credits. That might equal 100 credits. So would the applicant just pick electives to fill in the other 20, to get to 120 credits?

Thanks.

RE: UMPI Gen Ed Question - LevelUP - 01-12-2025

(01-12-2025, 07:48 PM)SCYankee Wrote:
(01-12-2025, 07:03 PM)jg_nuy Wrote: One course required and many courses fulfill more than one requirement. You need a total of 40 credits for the general education requirements.
For example:
If your CLEP for English Comp is the one with the essays, it will fulfill: 1A, 1B, 1D, 2C and 4B
Sophia: Communication at Work fulfills 1C
Sophia: Intro to Ethics fulfills 2A/2B/4C/4D
CLEP College Math fulfills: 3A, 3B
CLEP Natural Science fulfills: 3C

It wasn't with the essay ): I did that years before this online stuff was even a thing, back when there was only that big book (I think it was called "Bear's Guide...") that told all about TESU and whatever Excelsior used to be named.

But I digress...

So as long as I can fulfill at least one of the courses from each objective (minimum of 40 credits) I'm good to go on the Gen Eds. Got it.

And then, let's just say I or somebody else was able to do it with just 40 credits. Surely that 40, and then the BA/BS requirements (meaning the reqs for, let's say, Business Admin degree) wouldn't be enough credits. That might equal 100 credits. So would the applicant just pick electives to fill in the other 20, to get to 120 credits?

Thanks.

You must take at least 30 credits at UMPI as the residency requirement.

Degree plans and info on UMPI
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:UMPI

RE: UMPI Gen Ed Question - bjcheung77 - 01-12-2025

Basically, I would review the UMPI WIKI link above, then decide on the Bachelors of choice and create a spreadsheet of the requirements... You've go the link to general education and the specific degree plans, you can have a spreadsheet created and compare/verify the requirements online with the YourPace website details.

RE: UMPI Gen Ed Question - SCYankee - 01-13-2025

(01-12-2025, 08:58 PM)LevelUP Wrote:
(01-12-2025, 07:48 PM)SCYankee Wrote:
(01-12-2025, 07:03 PM)jg_nuy Wrote: One course required and many courses fulfill more than one requirement. You need a total of 40 credits for the general education requirements.
For example:
If your CLEP for English Comp is the one with the essays, it will fulfill: 1A, 1B, 1D, 2C and 4B
Sophia: Communication at Work fulfills 1C
Sophia: Intro to Ethics fulfills 2A/2B/4C/4D
CLEP College Math fulfills: 3A, 3B
CLEP Natural Science fulfills: 3C

It wasn't with the essay ): I did that years before this online stuff was even a thing, back when there was only that big book (I think it was called "Bear's Guide...") that told all about TESU and whatever Excelsior used to be named.

But I digress...

So as long as I can fulfill at least one of the courses from each objective (minimum of 40 credits) I'm good to go on the Gen Eds. Got it.

And then, let's just say I or somebody else was able to do it with just 40 credits. Surely that 40, and then the BA/BS requirements (meaning the reqs for, let's say, Business Admin degree) wouldn't be enough credits. That might equal 100 credits. So would the applicant just pick electives to fill in the other 20, to get to 120 credits?

Thanks.

You must take at least 30 credits at UMPI as the residency requirement.

Degree plans and info on UMPI
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:UMPI

I guess my question wasn't clear. I already understand UMPI requires 30 credits to be taken there.

A BA degree in any field is basically 120 credits, give or take. The first 2 "years" are mostly Gen Eds, and equal 60 credits. The second half is another 60 of specialized classes. This is how most degrees are broken down.

Now if UMPI let's you escape the first half of that with 40 credits (instead of 60), and then you do the other 60. You now have a Bachelor's Degree for 100 credits? That can't be true, so I'm asking, in that case, what would a person do to make up the remaining 20 credits? Electives?

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Also, what are UMPI requirements regarding the number of UL credits?

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Also, is there a list somewhere of how CLEP and DSST transfer to UMPI? I've seen lists for Sophia and SDC, but not CLEP and DSST>

RE: UMPI Gen Ed Question - LevelUP - 01-13-2025

(Yesterday, 06:48 AM)SCYankee Wrote: I guess my question wasn't clear. I already understand UMPI requires 30 credits to be taken there.

A BA degree in any field is basically 120 credits, give or take. The first 2 "years" are mostly Gen Eds, and equal 60 credits. The second half is another 60 of specialized classes. This is how most degrees are broken down.

That's not how it's broken down in most of the colleges we recommend here on DF.

General Education Requirements by College
  • TESU 45
  • UMPI 40
  • WGU 30
  • PUG 30 (quarter credits converted to normal credits)
  • SNHU 42
  • UMGC 41
  • TAMUC 42
  • LU 31
  • PSWC 45
(Yesterday, 06:48 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Now if UMPI let's you escape the first half of that with 40 credits (instead of 60), and then you do the other 60. You now have a Bachelor's Degree for 100 credits? That can't be true, so I'm asking, in that case, what would a person do to make up the remaining 20 credits? Electives?

I would think of it as basically
  • 1/3 40 credits General Ed.
  • 1/3 40 credits Major  (Usually 40-60)
  • 1/3 40 credits Electives

Total 120

Some colleges such as WGU don't have any electives.  Some colleges may require higher major requirements.

You should look at the UMPI degree plans to see how the requirements work
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:UMPI

(Yesterday, 06:48 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Also, what are UMPI requirements regarding the number of UL credits?

Each degree has different UL requirements.

(Yesterday, 06:48 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Also, is there a list somewhere of how CLEP and DSST transfer to UMPI? I've seen lists for Sophia and SDC, but not CLEP and DSST

CLEP
https://www.umpi.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/clep-exams-accepted-for-cbe-credit.pdf

DSST
https://www.umpi.edu/academics/credit-for-prior-learning/military-credit/

RE: UMPI Gen Ed Question - SCYankee - 01-13-2025

(Yesterday, 08:28 AM)LevelUP Wrote:
(Yesterday, 06:48 AM)SCYankee Wrote: I guess my question wasn't clear. I already understand UMPI requires 30 credits to be taken there.

A BA degree in any field is basically 120 credits, give or take. The first 2 "years" are mostly Gen Eds, and equal 60 credits. The second half is another 60 of specialized classes. This is how most degrees are broken down.

That's not how it's broken down in most of the colleges we recommend here on DF.

General Education Requirements by College
  • TESU 45
  • UMPI 40
  • WGU 30
  • PUG 30 (quarter credits converted to normal credits)
  • SNHU 42
  • UMGC 41
  • TAMUC 42
  • LU 31
  • PSWC 45
(Yesterday, 06:48 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Now if UMPI let's you escape the first half of that with 40 credits (instead of 60), and then you do the other 60. You now have a Bachelor's Degree for 100 credits? That can't be true, so I'm asking, in that case, what would a person do to make up the remaining 20 credits? Electives?

I would think of it as basically
  • 1/3 40 credits General Ed.
  • 1/3 40 credits Major  (Usually 40-60)
  • 1/3 40 credits Electives

Total 120

Some colleges such as WGU don't have any electives.  Some colleges may require higher major requirements.

You should look at the UMPI degree plans to see how the requirements work
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:UMPI

(Yesterday, 06:48 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Also, what are UMPI requirements regarding the number of UL credits?

Each degree has different UL requirements.

(Yesterday, 06:48 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Also, is there a list somewhere of how CLEP and DSST transfer to UMPI? I've seen lists for Sophia and SDC, but not CLEP and DSST

CLEP
https://www.umpi.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/clep-exams-accepted-for-cbe-credit.pdf

DSST
https://www.umpi.edu/academics/credit-for-prior-learning/military-credit/

Thanks for thast link. I'd seen one of the other degree plans there but didn't realize there was one for Businesds / Marketing.