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TESU Upper level credits help please? - belle - 10-18-2024

Hi everyone <3 I am new to this forum so I hope I do things correctly but please forgive me if I end up messing up...

I'll try to keep it short and sweet so I can spare you all of the lengthy version.  I am in my 20s and I want to be done with my undergraduate degree already.  I experienced a lot of heartbreak and trauma in my life that pushed my degree to the length that it has been pushed to and I honestly just want to be done with it already.  I want to move back to Europe and I have thought out my life there (what I mean to say is, please don't worry about my major being what I want or care about as horrible as that may sound).

I have completed many courses through Sophia, CLEP, and my local community college.  I will gladly list them all if it helps.  I am transferring all of these credits to TESU for their Liberal Studies programme with a minor in Humanities.  I am happy to remove the Humanities part if it means I finish my degree sooner and graduate faster.  

Location: Boston, MA (generally speaking)
Age: 27
Degree I want: Undergraduate
No military experience/connection/background

I have been in contact with Patricia Certo and long story short, I am still needing/missing the following to graduate but I have completed everything else:

COM-2090 Public Speaking
SOS-1100 Information Literacy Today
POS-1100 American Government
AOS 18 credits (Humanities content, 15 of these credits must be at the 3000 or 4000 level)
And the capstone

The short version of all of this is, could someone please help me find the most inexpensive quickest way for me to complete these remaining requirements so I can graduate ASAP...?  

Thank you all so much in advance and thank you so much for taking the time to read through what I have said here, I cannot thank you all enough for this invaluable forum!!! <3 <3 <3

-belle


RE: TESU Upper level credits help please? - Avidreader - 10-18-2024

Would the UL Art and Jewish history courses in Coopersmith satisfy the Humanities requirement? 150 USD each and they are NCCRS

https://www.coopersmithcc.net/shop/?cat-name=Art%20and%20Music

I myself have done a few UL Teceps but they were all business related ones. If they have Teceps from the subjects you need, the 231 USD pricetag per exam might be worth it to you.


RE: TESU Upper level credits help please? - belle - 10-18-2024

(10-18-2024, 07:09 PM)Avidreader Wrote: Would the UL Art and Jewish history courses in Coopersmith satisfy the Humanities requirement? 150 USD each and they are NCCRS

https://www.coopersmithcc.net/shop/?cat-name=Art%20and%20Music

I myself have done a few UL Teceps but they were all business related ones. If they have Teceps from the subjects you need, the 231 USD pricetag per exam might be worth it to you.

Hi Avidreader and thank you so much for such a quick reply, it really means a lot to me :')

To be honest with you, when I contacted Ms Certo about Coopersmith, she would not tell me which specific classes are accepted by TESU... so I can definitely ask her about these ones that you mentioned.  I also wanted to know because I am still trying to understand.. when you take the TECEP exams, do you receive study material or how does it work?  I did visit the TESU website but to be honest I was a bit confused and even a little overwhelmed...

Thank you again <3


RE: TESU Upper level credits help please? - Avidreader - 10-18-2024

If you look at the official Tecep page, they mention which are are Lower Level and which are Upper Level. There is a list of topics that will be included in the exam and also a sample self assesment exam that gives you a vague idea how well you will do.

Some exams are 100% multiple choice and others are a mixture of multiple choice and essays. In some exams such as the Digital Age one, you have to perform a few assignments before the exam for grades and hand write on a sheet of paper the bibliography of your sources that you show to the proctor to prove the paper is allowed (printed bibliography is not allowed). If you don't add that bibiography, you will lose exam points.

Other Teceps show you a situation and you write a 4 paragraph essay saying in your own words how you would handle it. You cannot click go back to prior questions on Teceps, so knowing how to manage your time is important. Essays can surprisingly use up most of your 2 hour timeslot.

Study.com has really nifty prep courses for some of the Teceps, they give you the foundation info and you have to supplement it with the quizlet pop quizzes. I used Saylor to study for the history Tecep. The digital age one is really easy. I barely passed the Advertising exam by just 2 or 3 questions. It was the hardest exam I took.

https://www2.tesu.edu/listalltecep.php?_gl=1*alen4p*_gcl_au*MjA4MDQ4MzY3LjE3MjkyOTcwMjg.*_ga*MTk3ODg1ODIxNy4xNzI5Mjk3MDI4*_ga_DSG60VSL1E*MTcyOTI5NzAyOC4xLjEuMTcyOTI5NzAzNi41Mi4wLjA.&_ga=2.119070793.1925776942.1729297029-1978858217.1729297028


RE: TESU Upper level credits help please? - bjcheung77 - 10-18-2024

Welcome to the board, it's a great intro post with some information about your scenario, it's best to fill in the addendum and template to provide readers a better understanding of your of your scenario. Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-New-to-DegreeForum-How-this-Area-works

I also suggest following the WIKI as there is already a degree plan in place, I would create a spreadsheet and link us to your google or one drive, make the file viewable (not editable) and we can comment on any changes if needed. Link: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Thomas_Edison_State_University

On the WIKI, under categories, click TESU and it'll show you the links to specific general education and degree plan requirements. My suggestion is to complete the Sophia.org/Study.com combo if you have enough RA credits already towards the degree or AOS concentration of your choice.


RE: TESU Upper level credits help please? - belle - 10-18-2024

(10-18-2024, 07:25 PM)Avidreader Wrote: If you look at the official Tecep page, they mention which are are Lower Level and which are Upper Level. There is a list of topics that will be included in the exam and also a sample self assesment exam that gives you a vague idea how well you will do.

Some exams are 100% multiple choice and others are a mixture of multiple choice and essays. In some exams such as the Digital Age one, you have to perform a few assignments before the exam for grades and hand write on a sheet of paper the bibliography of your sources that you show to the proctor to prove the paper is allowed (printed bibliography is not allowed). If you don't add that bibiography, you will lose exam points.

Other Teceps show you a situation and you write a 4 paragraph essay saying in your own words how you would handle it. You cannot click go back to prior questions on Teceps, so knowing how to manage your time is important. Essays can surprisingly use up most of your 2 hour timeslot.

Study.com has really nifty prep courses for some of the Teceps, they give you the foundation info and you have to supplement it with the quizlet pop quizzes. I used Saylor to study for the history Tecep. The digital age one is really easy. I barely passed the Advertising exam by just 2 or 3 questions. It was the hardest exam I took.

https://www2.tesu.edu/listalltecep.php?_gl=1*alen4p*_gcl_au*MjA4MDQ4MzY3LjE3MjkyOTcwMjg.*_ga*MTk3ODg1ODIxNy4xNzI5Mjk3MDI4*_ga_DSG60VSL1E*MTcyOTI5NzAyOC4xLjEuMTcyOTI5NzAzNi41Mi4wLjA.&_ga=2.119070793.1925776942.1729297029-1978858217.1729297028

Wow.. thank you so much for this :'). I was mainly interested in the Public Speaking and Abnormal Psychology TECEP exams since they would fit perfectly into my degree.  Would you happen to know anything about either of them?  Thank you again for your detailed advice and even telling me about your own experiences <3

(10-18-2024, 08:21 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Welcome to the board, it's a great intro post with some information about your scenario, it's best to fill in the addendum and template to provide readers a better understanding of your of your scenario.  Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-New-to-DegreeForum-How-this-Area-works

I also suggest following the WIKI as there is already a degree plan in place, I would create a spreadsheet and link us to your google or one drive, make the file viewable (not editable) and we can comment on any changes if needed.  Link: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Thomas_Edison_State_University

On the WIKI, under categories, click TESU and it'll show you the links to specific general education and degree plan requirements. My suggestion is to complete the Sophia.org/Study.com combo if you have enough RA credits already towards the degree or AOS concentration of your choice.

Thank you for this :'). I added some more details to my original post, I hope it helps you and others better understand my situation :')

I have taken almost all of my general education classes except for the specific ones I mentioned in my original post.. the main classes I would really appreciate help with are the upper level credits :'(. It's been really tricky finding ways to test out of them that are not very expensive or time consuming..
If there are no ways I can test out using almost all multiple choice exams then of course, it is what it is.  But I was hoping that maybe there is another method I have not heard of yet that would help me achieve my goals :')

I hope that is not confusing and hopefully better clarifies what I need <3. So, to reiterate, it's just the upper level credits in my AOS of humanities that I really need the help with: humanities at 3000 and 4000.

Thank youuu ~


RE: TESU Upper level credits help please? - Jonathan Whatley - 10-19-2024

(10-18-2024, 06:49 PM)belle Wrote: I have completed many courses through Sophia, CLEP, and my local community college.  I will gladly list them all if it helps.  I am transferring all of these credits to TESU for their Liberal Studies programme with a minor in Humanities. […]

I have been in contact with Patricia Certo and long story short, I am still needing/missing the following to graduate but I have completed everything else:

COM-2090 Public Speaking
SOS-1100 Information Literacy Today
POS-1100 American Government
AOS 18 credits (Humanities content, 15 of these credits must be at the 3000 or 4000 level)
And the capstone

The short version of all of this is, could someone please help me find the most inexpensive quickest way for me to complete these remaining requirements so I can graduate ASAP...?  

Will you have met TESU's minimum 30 credits from accredited colleges? In other words, including remaining credits, are you at risk of exceeding TESU's maximum 90 credits from alt-credit sources (ACE, NCCRS, CLEP, DSST, etc.?)

Are you looking at taking a TESU 15-credit term?

Required to take at TESU:
  • SOS-1100 Information Literacy Today
  • And the capstone
Options include Sophia, Study.com, ASU Universal Learner, TESU, most colleges:
  • COM-2090 Public Speaking
  • POS-1100 American Government
And it looks like POS-1100 American Government is pencilled in to your plan to meet the general education requirement in Civic Engagement, which can also be met by several other courses (e.g., Study.com's Comparative Politics).

For the 18 credits in upper-level Humanities, looking at Study.com's TESU page, your options there look to be
  • Business 313: Organizational Communication (COM-3910 Organizational Communication)
  • Business 310: Advanced Business Ethics (PHI-3840 Ethics and the Business Professional)
  • English 301: Non-Western Literature (LIT-4600 Non-Western World Literature)
  • English 305: Advanced Technical Writing (ENG-3060 Intermediate Technical Writing/Professional Writing)
  • History 301: Historiography & Historical Methods (HIS-3790 Historical Methods)
  • History 306: The American Civil War Era (HIS-4500 The American Civil War Era)
  • History 308: Causes and Effects of the Vietnam War (HIS-3510 A History of Vietnam War)
  • History 311: The Holocaust & World War II (HIS-3540 The Holocaust I)
TESU might also accept Study.com Business 305: Leadership Communication (normally MAN-3760 Leadership Communications at TESU) as upper-level Communication. If you're interested, ask your advisor.

As Avidreader identified, Coopersmith may also have some options.

A brand new approach, that seems likely to work now that TESU recently opened the door to accepting nationally accredited credit on the same basis as regionally accredited, would be to take upper-level philosophy courses from the nationally institutionally accredited (DEAC) Newlane University and transfer them to TESU.

There are two courses from TESU itself with the notable feature that they're humanities courses and 6 credits each, which might be more efficient than taking two 3-credit courses. These are

(10-18-2024, 09:44 PM)belle Wrote: I was mainly interested in the Public Speaking and Abnormal Psychology TECEP exams since they would fit perfectly into my degree.

TESU generally does not consider Psychology to be part of Humanities (instead, it's part of Social Sciences).


RE: TESU Upper level credits help please? - belle - 10-19-2024

(10-19-2024, 01:38 AM)Jonathan Whatley Wrote:
(10-18-2024, 06:49 PM)belle Wrote: I have completed many courses through Sophia, CLEP, and my local community college.  I will gladly list them all if it helps.  I am transferring all of these credits to TESU for their Liberal Studies programme with a minor in Humanities. […]

I have been in contact with Patricia Certo and long story short, I am still needing/missing the following to graduate but I have completed everything else:

COM-2090 Public Speaking
SOS-1100 Information Literacy Today
POS-1100 American Government
AOS 18 credits (Humanities content, 15 of these credits must be at the 3000 or 4000 level)
And the capstone

The short version of all of this is, could someone please help me find the most inexpensive quickest way for me to complete these remaining requirements so I can graduate ASAP...?  

Will you have met TESU's minimum 30 credits from accredited colleges? In other words, including remaining credits, are you at risk of exceeding TESU's maximum 90 credits from alt-credit sources (ACE, NCCRS, CLEP, DSST, etc.?)

Are you looking at taking a TESU 15-credit term?

Required to take at TESU:
  • SOS-1100 Information Literacy Today
  • And the capstone
Options include Sophia, Study.com, ASU Universal Learner, TESU, most colleges:
  • COM-2090 Public Speaking
  • POS-1100 American Government
And it looks like POS-1100 American Government is pencilled in to your plan to meet the general education requirement in Civic Engagement, which can also be met by several other courses (e.g., Study.com's Comparative Politics).

For the 18 credits in upper-level Humanities, looking at Study.com's TESU page, your options there look to be
  • Business 313: Organizational Communication (COM-3910 Organizational Communication)
  • Business 310: Advanced Business Ethics (PHI-3840 Ethics and the Business Professional)
  • English 301: Non-Western Literature (LIT-4600 Non-Western World Literature)
  • English 305: Advanced Technical Writing (ENG-3060 Intermediate Technical Writing/Professional Writing)
  • History 301: Historiography & Historical Methods (HIS-3790 Historical Methods)
  • History 306: The American Civil War Era (HIS-4500 The American Civil War Era)
  • History 308: Causes and Effects of the Vietnam War (HIS-3510 A History of Vietnam War)
  • History 311: The Holocaust & World War II (HIS-3540 The Holocaust I)
TESU might also accept Study.com Business 305: Leadership Communication (normally MAN-3760 Leadership Communications at TESU) as upper-level Communication. If you're interested, ask your advisor.

As Avidreader identified, Coopersmith may also have some options.

A brand new approach, that seems likely to work now that TESU recently opened the door to accepting nationally accredited credit on the same basis as regionally accredited, would be to take upper-level philosophy courses from the nationally institutionally accredited (DEAC) Newlane University and transfer them to TESU.

There are two courses from TESU itself with the notable feature that they're humanities courses and 6 credits each, which might be more efficient than taking two 3-credit courses. These are

(10-18-2024, 09:44 PM)belle Wrote: I was mainly interested in the Public Speaking and Abnormal Psychology TECEP exams since they would fit perfectly into my degree.

TESU generally does not consider Psychology to be part of Humanities (instead, it's part of Social Sciences).

Wow... thank you so much for all of this, Jonathan :'). You have shared so much invaluable information with me here.  Please give me some minutes to properly read through everything you said and then I will edit my reply ^_^

Edit:

To directly answer your first question: yes, I am at risk of exceeding the 90 allotted credits... but I wanted to schedule an appointment with an academic advisor to move around credits so that more credits from community college can come in and take the place of CLEP/Sophia credits (if that makes sense)
  • I was planning to take the American Government CLEP so that I could be done/earn the necessary credits through 1 multiple choice exam
  • I was planning to take the Public Speaking TECEP exam if I can manage that
  • Would you happen to know how much it would cost for the options you listed?  It would mean a lot to me to have an idea even of what kind of money I would need to keep aside... /apply for FAFSA where possible
Thank you again ^_^ :') <3