• 40 credits, GE's - This will be a combination of Sophia credits and some courses I've taken in the past I'm hoping will transfer into the right slots.
  
• 35 credits, Electives - I have a bucket of credits from 3 previous schools I've attended which should be more than enough to cover the 35 (even after I subtract away the credits I'm planning to use for GE's)
  
• 9 credits, 3x lower-level Psych courses available on Study.com
  
• 31 credits, 10x upper-level Psych courses taken at UMPI, plus their 1 credit Freshman orientation class
  

• General Psychology
  
• Basic Statistics
  

• A.) Can these classes be counted both as GE's and as Psych reqs? If so, can I make up the remaining 5 credit shortfall with more transferred credits (I've got plenty of them).
  

• B.) Must I choose different GE courses to fill those requirements? For example, choosing Algebra instead of Statistics for the Math GE requirement and Ethics instead of Psychology for the SS GE req? (In other words, because General Psych and Stats are already being applied somewhere else, it is as if I've only got 34 credits counting towards my GE reqs and I need 2x additional courses to make up for that).
  

(05-08-2024, 08:49 AM)ss20ts Wrote: You'll need 120 credits minimum to graduate. You'll have to complete at least 30 credits at UMPI. Yes, GEC courses can be utilized for major requirements. The BABA has this happen with math.

You also need at least 40 credits in the GEC. There are several courses which can be used to fulfill multiple areas of the GEC so this is something to watch.

You won't be taking the Freshman orientation class. You'll take a 0 credit orientation on Brightspace.

(05-08-2024, 11:30 AM)Vle045 Wrote: If I understand your question correctly, no you can’t double dip.  In other words, you can’t put the same course in two slots.  You have to pick a slot in the degree plan for each course.   For example, if a general psychology is needed for your major, you can not also use it for gen ed.  You will need something different.  If you have credits that don’t fit anywhere, then you just have extra credits that don’t fit anywhere.

(05-08-2024, 10:07 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @msamet20, Welcome to the board, great intro post but it's missing the addendum and template.  Basically, people going the COSC or UMPI get confused very often with the double dip and credit requirements.  The confusion is just that classes can have multiple requirements met, but your credits are not going to be met, you have to place a class in some box to make the 120+ credits total.  If you have the major requirements done, and specific gen eds, plus the electives, you're good to go.  To keep things simple... If both the classes you have mentioned go to the gen eds, you'll have to take something (anything) for the electives, the opposite is true, if you place those to your electives, a suitable replacement needs to fit the gen eds.

• 1A - ENG 101 - 3 CRED
  
• 1B - ENG 121 - 3 CRED
  
• 1C - POS 101 - 3 CRED
  
• 1D - double-dip with 1A
  
• 2A - PHI 152 - 3 CRED
  
• 2B - double-dip with 2A
  
• 2C - double-dip with 1B
  
• 2D - ART 103 - 3 CRED
  
• 2E - ART 116 - 3 CRED
  
• 3A - MAT 101 - 3 CRED
  
• 3B - double-dip with 3A (also planning to use as a Psych Major req)
  
• 3C - BIO 104 - 3 CRED
  
• 3D - double-dip with 3E
  
• 3E -CHY 111 -  4 CRED
  
• 4A - whatever
  
• 4B - double-dip with 1B
  
• 4C - double-dip with 2A
  
• 5A - ANT 110 - 3 CRED
  
• 5B - HTY 161 - 3 CRED
  
• 5C - SPA 101 - 3 CRED
  
• 5D - double-dip with 2A
  
• 5E - double-dip with 1C
  

• ART 221 - 3 CRED
  and
• ART 120 - 3 CRED
  

(05-08-2024, 11:30 AM)Vle045 Wrote: If I understand your question correctly, no you can’t double dip.  In other words, you can’t put the same course in two slots.  You have to pick a slot in the degree plan for each course.   For example, if a general psychology is needed for your major, you can not also use it for gen ed.  You will need something different.  If you have credits that don’t fit anywhere, then you just have extra credits that don’t fit anywhere.

(05-08-2024, 12:46 PM)msamet20 Wrote:

(05-08-2024, 10:07 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @msamet20, Welcome to the board, great intro post but it's missing the addendum and template.  Basically, people going the COSC or UMPI get confused very often with the double dip and credit requirements.  The confusion is just that classes can have multiple requirements met, but your credits are not going to be met, you have to place a class in some box to make the 120+ credits total.  If you have the major requirements done, and specific gen eds, plus the electives, you're good to go.  To keep things simple... If both the classes you have mentioned go to the gen eds, you'll have to take something (anything) for the electives, the opposite is true, if you place those to your electives, a suitable replacement needs to fit the gen eds.

Thanks bj! This makes sense to me. A few followups:

1.) not sure what the addendum and template are referring to. I assume there are forum rules? I'll look into it later when I get a sec.
2.) I think you understand what I'm saying about the double dipping. So let me try to illustrate a scenario using the GEC I've got in front of me. Here are the classes I either have or am planning to take to fill each slot (some are double-dipped):

• 1A - ENG 101 - 3 CRED
  
• 1B - ENG 121 - 3 CRED
  
• 1C - POS 101 - 3 CRED
  
• 1D - double-dip with 1A
  
• 2A - PHI 152 - 3 CRED
  
• 2B - double-dip with 2A
  
• 2C - double-dip with 1B
  
• 2D - ART 103 - 3 CRED
  
• 2E - ART 116 - 3 CRED
  
• 3A - MAT 101 - 3 CRED
  
• 3B - double-dip with 3A (also planning to use as a Psych Major req)
  
• 3C - BIO 104 - 3 CRED
  
• 3D - double-dip with 3E
  
• 3E -CHY 111 -  4 CRED
  
• 4A - whatever
  
• 4B - double-dip with 1B
  
• 4C - double-dip with 2A
  
• 5A - ANT 110 - 3 CRED
  
• 5B - HTY 161 - 3 CRED
  
• 5C - SPA 101 - 3 CRED
  
• 5D - double-dip with 2A
  
• 5E - double-dip with 1C
  

Ok, so that's 37 Credits so far. Then we have to subtract the MAT 101 credits (because although it fulfills the 3A and 3B slots, it's credits are already being counted towards the Psych 45). So basically, as I see it above, I have all my categories fulfilled, however I only have 34 credits I can count towards GCE. Is this part correct?

Now here's my next question:

In my storehouse of previous school credits, I've already got several art courses that I believe can slot easily into the 2D category. So if I have tranfer equivalencies for, say:

• ART 221 - 3 CRED
  and
  
• ART 120 - 3 CRED
  

Is it crazy to think they will let me stack the 2D category with 3 classes so I can get to 40 without having to load up on more Sophia classes?

3.) vle045 seems to be saying there is no double-dipping between GEC and Major requirements. This seems to imply I would need another Math to satisfy 3A/3B. Your thoughts?

I know these are some crazily complex and specific questions, so huge thanks if you've got any insight here!

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(05-08-2024, 11:30 AM)Vle045 Wrote: If I understand your question correctly, no you can’t double dip.  In other words, you can’t put the same course in two slots.  You have to pick a slot in the degree plan for each course.   For example, if a general psychology is needed for your major, you can not also use it for gen ed.  You will need something different.  If you have credits that don’t fit anywhere, then you just have extra credits that don’t fit anywhere.

Thanks for your reply Vle. Are you 100% positive the MAT 101 class couldn't be used for both GEC and PSYCH requirements? What if I count it's credits toward the Psych requirements and make up the 3 GEC credits in a different category, such as more art classes in the 2D category? I also posted a beast of a repy to bj, if that helps clear things up. Anyway, thanks! Hope your wrong though so I don't have to take another Math !

(05-08-2024, 01:05 PM)Vle045 Wrote: Ss20ts is a grad of UMPI, so I am not going to contradict her… that being said, if it essentially fills two spots, it still kinda leaves one open in the electives based on what she says.  So it’s kind of yes and no, I guess.  You aren’t going to get double credits, so you still need to make them up somewhere.   I sure wouldn’t want to have to take another math!  Boo to math.  LOL

(05-08-2024, 02:58 PM)ss20ts Wrote:

(05-08-2024, 01:05 PM)Vle045 Wrote: Ss20ts is a grad of UMPI, so I am not going to contradict her… that being said, if it essentially fills two spots, it still kinda leaves one open in the electives based on what she says.  So it’s kind of yes and no, I guess.  You aren’t going to get double credits, so you still need to make them up somewhere.   I sure wouldn’t want to have to take another math!  Boo to math.  LOL

I had the same thing in the BABA! MAT140 is used for the major and to fill 2 areas of the GEC like I previously stated. You still need to have 120 credits to graduate. So you may end up with extra general electives. It's normal in some programs for this to happen.