(04-08-2024, 11:54 AM)sanantone Wrote: ABD programs are not for completed degrees. Once you've finished the DBA, you've already completed a dissertation or capstone. ABD stands for All But Dissertation, which means that you didn't graduate. Instead, find a program that accepts a lot of doctoral transfer credits from a completed degree. This is very rare, though. Capitol Technology University is one of the few schools out there that does this. Although, I will say that I don't know why someone would want to do a DBA and PhD in the same field. It's redundant.

(04-08-2024, 12:04 PM)doyouhowdo1 Wrote:

(04-08-2024, 11:54 AM)sanantone Wrote: ABD programs are not for completed degrees. Once you've finished the DBA, you've already completed a dissertation or capstone. ABD stands for All But Dissertation, which means that you didn't graduate. Instead, find a program that accepts a lot of doctoral transfer credits from a completed degree. This is very rare, though. Capitol Technology University is one of the few schools out there that does this. Although, I will say that I don't know why someone would want to do a DBA and PhD in the same field. It's redundant.

I will take a look on Capitol Technology University. It is kind of redundant by the normal people. But for me, it save so much more time and money. 
It take someone 3 to 5 yeara just to get a PHD. But if I can finish my DBA in 1 or 1.5 year, then do ABD course or able to transfer most of my credit that I only write a thsis to get a PHD. I can havr both the PHD and DBA within 3 to 5 years.

(04-08-2024, 12:11 PM)sanantone Wrote:

(04-08-2024, 12:04 PM)doyouhowdo1 Wrote:

(04-08-2024, 11:54 AM)sanantone Wrote: ABD programs are not for completed degrees. Once you've finished the DBA, you've already completed a dissertation or capstone. ABD stands for All But Dissertation, which means that you didn't graduate. Instead, find a program that accepts a lot of doctoral transfer credits from a completed degree. This is very rare, though. Capitol Technology University is one of the few schools out there that does this. Although, I will say that I don't know why someone would want to do a DBA and PhD in the same field. It's redundant.

I will take a look on Capitol Technology University. It is kind of redundant by the normal people. But for me, it save so much more time and money. 
It take someone 3 to 5 yeara just to get a PHD. But if I can finish my DBA in 1 or 1.5 year, then do ABD course or able to transfer most of my credit that I only write a thsis to get a PHD. I can havr both the PHD and DBA within 3 to 5 years.

The only DBA program that I know of that can be completed in fewer than three years is South College. But, that program is new, so we don't know what the average completion time is.

(04-08-2024, 04:05 PM)Kalas Wrote: I'm assuming money is the reason you would look at South College over a residential program at one of the universities in HK? Even CityU is a much better school South College. While online doctorates can be completed more quickly, it is a different academic experience and not particularly useful for academic employment. There is a strong bias in academia for residential programs. There are tradeoffs with everything that is less expensive and/or faster.

Are you looking to get both degrees for the sake of learning? Just to be able to say you have more doctorates? It sounds like fastest possible completion time your main deciding factor. If your primary motivation is just to get a degree with those letters on it, there are faster (and cheaper) ways to go about it. As for potential evaluations for equivalency in HK, I have no idea.

DBA from Universidad de San Miguel via Excellent DBA on emagister - roughly US$3000 after all fees
DSc in Economics and Management from Akademia Jagiellońska w Toruniu - went up to US$3500 when I inquired a few months ago, also has a DBA and D.Phil (Doctor of Philosophy but not styled PhD) in Economics and Management (each degree would have its own dissertation, negotiating a quantity discount is probably possible), evaluates to ABD status in the US
PhD is offered by some of the cheaper European schools with questionable reputations, don't remember which off the top of my head, but should be available around US$5000 if your main intention is to get the letters at the end of your name
DTI in Slovakia has a PhDr. in Management that is 700 euros according to a member here, but AFAIK no one has enrolled or found if it is offered in English directly through DTI or if the price is the same for non-EU citizens, also available as a dissertation-only dual degree with Azteca for more than 10x that price

Your experiences with these programs will be determined wholly by the quality of research you do. If you decide to do quality research, you should have a satisfying academic experience at a low price that be completed as quickly as you can do the research. Theoretically, you could bang out three dissertations and have three doctorates a year from now. You could also use Jagiellońska to finish faster, say getting their DSc, using that to get ABD status somewhere else, then expanding your previous dissertation to the new school's standards to bypass all coursework. That should be both faster and cheaper, plus the novelty of having a DSc, which isn't the most common doctorate out there.