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Course Withdrawals & Retakes - PreLawCoastie - 03-12-2024
Hey all! I posted a few weeks ago about applying as a non-degree seeking student to raise my uGPA for law school. I was able to enroll - for three classes simultaneously. I was wondering if anyone had any information about the withdrawal policy - it's very hard to find online.
I believe you can withdraw from courses in progress up to the Withdrawal deadline, but is it possible to do so after submitting the final milestone? I believe that that is the entire grade for the course (crazy!) is that correct? If so, and if you need to make improvements from the draft and don't get an A, is there really no way to withdraw or retake the course? My gpa is over a 3.8 so anything less than an A is not worthwhile.
At the very least, found a way to take more than 2 classes at once!
RE: Course Withdrawals & Retakes - ss20ts - 03-12-2024
You cannot withdrawal from a course after you submit the Final Assessment including the rough draft. Yes, the entire grade for the course is based on the Final Assessment. Any course you withdrawal from will give you a W on your transcript. You need to consider how those Ws will appear to law schools and how they count them in your GPA. I have never seen anyone allowed to retake a course to improve their grade unless they failed. Grades aren't issued until after the term ends either.
RE: Course Withdrawals & Retakes - PreLawCoastie - 03-12-2024
(03-12-2024, 10:20 PM)ss20ts Wrote: You cannot withdrawal from a course after you submit the Final Assessment including the rough draft. Yes, the entire grade for the course is based on the Final Assessment. Any course you withdrawal from will give you a W on your transcript. You need to consider how those Ws will appear to law schools and how they count them in your GPA. I have never seen anyone allowed to retake a course to improve their grade unless they failed. Grades aren't issued until after the term ends either.
Gothca. I have lot's of MD grades from my main school (Military Drops from Penn State) and generally am not too worried about them - they are consolidated when the grades are uploaded into LSAC's IGUGS for CAS, which is what's submitted to law schools. An addendum explaining my circumstances should hopefully suffice.
Is there anywhere in writing that says that? And how does it include the rough draft. As in, when I submit the rough draft I can't withdraw anymore? What happens if I go into the registration portal and just... drop the course before the semester ends?
Thank you so much for your help!
RE: Course Withdrawals & Retakes - bjcheung77 - 03-13-2024
Just wondering, did you get any feedback on the assessment draft? Usually people submit the draft and get 'some' feedback, by knowing how the feedback went, you can somewhat gauge how your grade is going to go. If the professor has a bit of recommendations, you can follow through with those recommendations, and that should suffice in securing your coveted A...
The affect on the GPA on your cumulative GPA will vary, if you have 3.8 in 30 credits vs you have a 3.8 in 90 credits will be significantly differ... When applying to any competitive program, they look at an overall package, your previous GPA, your current GPA, everything required for admissions, and they want to see you meeting or exceeding most, if not all of those requirements.
RE: Course Withdrawals & Retakes - PreLawCoastie - 03-13-2024
(03-13-2024, 12:05 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Just wondering, did you get any feedback on the assessment draft? Usually people submit the draft and get 'some' feedback, by knowing how the feedback went, you can somewhat gauge how your grade is going to go. If the professor has a bit of recommendations, you can follow through with those recommendations, and that should suffice in securing your coveted A...
The affect on the GPA on your cumulative GPA will vary, if you have 3.8 in 30 credits vs you have a 3.8 in 90 credits will be significantly differ... When applying to any competitive program, they look at an overall package, your previous GPA, your current GPA, everything required for admissions, and they want to see you meeting or exceeding most, if not all of those requirements.
To be honest, law school applications really care about your uGPA more than holsitic applications. It's really all I have left to work on.
I haven't submitted one yet, and I don't want to if it's going to mean I lose the opportunity to drop the class!
RE: Course Withdrawals & Retakes - CharisandJon - 03-13-2024
(03-12-2024, 10:20 PM)ss20ts Wrote: You cannot withdrawal from a course after you submit the Final Assessment including the rough draft. Yes, the entire grade for the course is based on the Final Assessment. Any course you withdrawal from will give you a W on your transcript. You need to consider how those Ws will appear to law schools and how they count them in your GPA. I have never seen anyone allowed to retake a course to improve their grade unless they failed. Grades aren't issued until after the term ends either.
Is the entire grade being based on the final assessment also true for degree seeking YourPace students?
RE: Course Withdrawals & Retakes - bjcheung77 - 03-13-2024
PreLawCoastie Wrote:To be honest, law school applications really care about your uGPA more than holsitic applications. It's really all I have left to work on.
I haven't submitted one yet, and I don't want to if it's going to mean I lose the opportunity to drop the class!
Here's a thread to review, a member who got accepted at a couple of amazing schools. Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Mysonx3-s-Law-School-Thread
CharisandJon Wrote:Is the entire grade being based on the final assessment also true for degree seeking YourPace students?
It's going to be the same for all students, regardless of "degree seeking" status. The only ones not affected would be for those who 'audit' the course, no grades are for those students as they're just learning/filling knowledge gaps, not looking for grades.
RE: Course Withdrawals & Retakes - ss20ts - 03-13-2024
(03-12-2024, 10:35 PM)PreLawCoastie Wrote: Is there anywhere in writing that says that? And how does it include the rough draft. As in, when I submit the rough draft I can't withdraw anymore? What happens if I go into the registration portal and just... drop the course before the semester ends?
Thank you so much for your help!
YourPace has its own set of rules which you can ask about from your academic success coach. No, you cannot withdrawal from a course once you submit a rough draft. You can't add or drop courses in the registration portal. That's for on campus students only.
(03-13-2024, 01:32 AM)CharisandJon Wrote: Is the entire grade being based on the final assessment also true for degree seeking YourPace students?
Yes. It's the same for everyone and every course.
RE: Course Withdrawals & Retakes - PreLawCoastie - 03-14-2024
(03-13-2024, 08:12 AM)ss20ts Wrote:(03-12-2024, 10:35 PM)PreLawCoastie Wrote: Is there anywhere in writing that says that? And how does it include the rough draft. As in, when I submit the rough draft I can't withdraw anymore? What happens if I go into the registration portal and just... drop the course before the semester ends?
Thank you so much for your help!
YourPace has its own set of rules which you can ask about from your academic success coach. No, you cannot withdrawal from a course once you submit a rough draft. You can't add or drop courses in the registration portal. That's for on campus students only.
(03-13-2024, 01:32 AM)CharisandJon Wrote: Is the entire grade being based on the final assessment also true for degree seeking YourPace students?
Yes. It's the same for everyone and every course.
Gotcha. Again, I don't have an academic success coach - This has all been done over email with the registrar.
(03-13-2024, 04:19 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote:PreLawCoastie Wrote:To be honest, law school applications really care about your uGPA more than holsitic applications. It's really all I have left to work on.
I haven't submitted one yet, and I don't want to if it's going to mean I lose the opportunity to drop the class!
Here's a thread to review, a member who got accepted at a couple of amazing schools. Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Mysonx3-s-Law-School-Thread
Haha I've read it twice! Definitely not here to argue, but where I am - that is. with a really solid GPA from my actual degree-granting school - just changing the uGPA is the only thing that I think could help. The fact is that without a stronger uGPA, it's just not going to happen, the statistics really don't lie. For as much as softs matter, the military societies tend to help a lot, and make writing application essays super easy.
RE: Course Withdrawals & Retakes - ss20ts - 03-14-2024
You do have an academic success coach. You will hear from them once you're enrolled and have completed all of the documentation. They typically reach out closer to the beginning of your first term.