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Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - RavioliMachine - 12-30-2023

Looking for a dual math and environmental degree from TESU or UMPI primarily.

Your Location: Mississippi, US
Your Age:40
What kind of degree do you want?:Ideally looking for dual major Math and either Environmental Science or Environmental Studies from UMPI or TESU. I already have a degree that is mostly unrelated to my field.
Current Regional Accredited Credits:
Class Name Code Hours Grade
Biology I with lab 1134 4hrs B
English Comp 1 1113 3hrs B
Beginning Algebra 1203 3hrs B
General Psychology 1513 3hrs A


Biology II with lab 1144 4hrs A
General Chemistry Survey 1114 4hrs B
Intro to computer concepts 1113 3hrs A
Physical Education II 1121 1hr A


Intermediate College Algebra 100 3hrs A
Fundamentals of Oral Communication 106 3hrs A
Intro to Computer Drafting 104 3hrs A
Drafting & Design Technology 111 3hrs A
Basic Technical Drawing 124 3hrs A


Intermediate Drafting & Design 127 3hrs A
Intermediate Technical Drawing 128 3hrs A
Advanced Technical Drawing 220 3hrs A


Architectural Drafting 132 3hrs A
Advanced Computer Drafting 231 3hrs A
Three Dimensional Modeling 233 3hrs A


Special Topics in Design Technology 181 3hrs A
Pipe Drafting 214 3hrs A
Structural Steel Drafting 225 3hrs A
Orientation to College 101 1hr A


Basic Surveying 133 3hrs A
Descriptive Geometry 134 3hrs A
Special Topics in Design Technology 238 3hrs A


Civil Drafting and Plat Mapping 213 3hrs A
Technical Internship 460 3hrs P
History of Western Civilization 101 3hrs A
Introduction to Theatre 100 3hrs A


Introduction to Art 100 3hrs A
History of Western Civilization II 102 3hrs A
Microcomputer Applications 205 3hrs A
Principles of Microeconomics 201 3hrs A


Written English Comp II 102 3hrs A
Precalculus Algebra 113 3hrs A
Network Communication 280 3hrs A
American Literature I 231 3hrs A

Maxed characters above, continued here:
Computerized Data Analysis 305 3hrs A
American Literature II 232 3hrs A
Business Statistics 271 3hrs A
Network Administration I 381 3hrs A

Computer Programming I 300 3hrs A
Network Administration II 382 3hrs A
Network Infrastructure 383 3hrs A
Marketing 300 3hrs A

Internet Applications 350 3hrs A
Precalculus Trigonometry 114 3hrs A
e-Marketing and Social Media Marketing 390 3hrs A
Principles of Macroeconomics 202 3hrs A


Current ACE, CLEP, or NCCRS Credits: None

Provider Total Credits: #

Certifications: AICP (Urban Planning), ICC Soils Special Inspector

Budget: Not a lot. I would prefer not to take out more loans, and want to do as much as possible with alternative credits. I have around $3K set aside, but will probably have more later. I'd like to go the cheapest route possible, but will consider spending more for easy and fast.

Commitments: Kids/spouse/pets 1 full time job and a sporadic part time gig.

Dedicated time to study:Between breaks at work and evenings/weekends, I can probably set aside 5-6 hours per week initially, possibly with more time freeing up depending on work.

Timeline: The sooner the better, ideally within a year.

Tuition assistance/reimbursement: None


RE: Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - jg_nuy - 12-30-2023

I don't see Environmental Science at UMPI. The small amount of time available would also be a concern, since it's competency-based and writing intensive.

Environmental Science may not be the easiest degree to obtain - may require 2 terms at TESU based on prior posts. Here is an older post that may help you in planning for Environmental Studies: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-New-here--39965?pid=362435#pid362435

For TESU, you are in good shape for RA credits, as well as general education requirements, if I reading correctly that is a 2nd Bachelors, since those and Electives will then be waived. Many of your missing requirements would be available via Sophia, Study.com and possibly onlinedegree.com. For Math, you need calculus, linear algebra and possibly statitiscs depending on how business statistics is brought in. It looks good for overall math credits needed.

The BA in Computer Science + Math may also be a good match based on your current credits.


RE: Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - Jonathan Whatley - 12-30-2023

UMPI might make its Environmental Studies minor and Mathematics minor available based on transfer credit, but you'd have to be taking a major from among the majors fully available through YourPace courses, or a BLS or BAS with a primary minor from among the minors fully available through YourPace courses.

Schools in our second tier – less optimized than UMPI and TESU, but more friendly than most schools to alt and transfer credit – which offer environmental science programs online, and some also mathematics, include Southern New Hampshire University, Wilmington University, American Public University System, and the University of Phoenix (which is likely to become an affiliate of the University of Idaho System in 2024). These could be useful for transfer credit even if you ultimately complete at TESU or UMPI.


RE: Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - bjcheung77 - 12-31-2023

@RavioliMachine, Welcome to the board, that's a great introduction post with the addendum and template, having said that, it's missing the most important piece of the puzzle! "I already have a degree that is mostly unrelated to my field." And that's what we're waiting for... We don't know what this degree is yet, it's hard for us to recommend you any degrees from the UMPI BAS with any possible minors up to the TESU BA Environmental Studies & Math Majors... That one variable is the 'biggest' deciding factor (if it was for me). I'm even more inclined to inform you the Masters option if you have the prerequisites for something similar...


RE: Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - Duneranger - 01-01-2024

UMPI doesn’t offer any of these majors.

Look into SNHU as well.


RE: Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - RavioliMachine - 01-01-2024

(12-30-2023, 05:48 PM)jg_nuy Wrote: I don't see Environmental Science at UMPI. The small amount of time available would also be a concern, since it's competency-based and writing intensive.

Environmental Science may not be the easiest degree to obtain - may require 2 terms at TESU based on prior posts. Here is an older post that may help you in planning for Environmental Studies: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-New-here--39965?pid=362435#pid362435

For TESU, you are in good shape for RA credits, as well as general education requirements, if I reading correctly that is a 2nd Bachelors, since those and Electives will then be waived. Many of your missing requirements would be available via Sophia, Study.com and possibly onlinedegree.com. For Math, you need calculus, linear algebra and possibly statitiscs depending on how business statistics is brought in. It looks good for overall math credits needed.

The BA in Computer Science + Math may also be a good match based on your current credits.

This is the Environmental Science program I was referring to at UMPI:
https://www.umpi.edu/academics/environmental-science/

Although it isn't listed as an "online degree", it may be possible if you can get the right credits? 

For the Math degree at TESU, are you saying that I'd only need those 3 classes? Thanks for your help!

(12-30-2023, 06:54 PM)Jonathan Whatley Wrote: UMPI might make its Environmental Studies minor and Mathematics minor available based on transfer credit, but you'd have to be taking a major from among the majors fully available through YourPace courses, or a BLS or BAS with a primary minor from among the minors fully available through YourPace courses.

Schools in our second tier – less optimized than UMPI and TESU, but more friendly than most schools to alt and transfer credit – which offer environmental science programs online, and some also mathematics, include Southern New Hampshire University, Wilmington University, American Public University System, and the University of Phoenix (which is likely to become an affiliate of the University of Idaho System in 2024). These could be useful for transfer credit even if you ultimately complete at TESU or UMPI.
Thank you, I'll look into those other schools. Do they tend to accept ACE credits?

(12-31-2023, 06:49 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @RavioliMachine, Welcome to the board, that's a great introduction post with the addendum and template, having said that, it's missing the most important piece of the puzzle!  "I already have a degree that is mostly unrelated to my field."  And that's what we're waiting for... We don't know what this degree is yet, it's hard for us to recommend you any degrees from the UMPI BAS with any possible minors up to the TESU BA Environmental Studies & Math Majors...  That one variable is the 'biggest' deciding factor (if it was for me).  I'm even more inclined to inform you the Masters option if you have the prerequisites for something similar...

My apologies! I have a BS in IT.


RE: Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - Jonathan Whatley - 01-01-2024

(01-01-2024, 10:02 PM)RavioliMachine Wrote: Thank you, I'll look into those other schools. Do they tend to accept ACE credits?

They tend to!


RE: Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - Duneranger - 01-01-2024

(01-01-2024, 10:02 PM)RavioliMachine Wrote:
(12-30-2023, 05:48 PM)jg_nuy Wrote: I don't see Environmental Science at UMPI. The small amount of time available would also be a concern, since it's competency-based and writing intensive.

Environmental Science may not be the easiest degree to obtain - may require 2 terms at TESU based on prior posts. Here is an older post that may help you in planning for Environmental Studies: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-New-here--39965?pid=362435#pid362435

For TESU, you are in good shape for RA credits, as well as general education requirements, if I reading correctly that is a 2nd Bachelors, since those and Electives will then be waived. Many of your missing requirements would be available via Sophia, Study.com and possibly onlinedegree.com. For Math, you need calculus, linear algebra and possibly statitiscs depending on how business statistics is brought in. It looks good for overall math credits needed.

The BA in Computer Science + Math may also be a good match based on your current credits.

This is the Environmental Science program I was referring to at UMPI:
https://www.umpi.edu/academics/environmental-science/

Although it isn't listed as an "online degree", it may be possible if you can get the right credits? 

For the Math degree at TESU, are you saying that I'd only need those 3 classes? Thanks for your help!

(12-30-2023, 06:54 PM)Jonathan Whatley Wrote: UMPI might make its Environmental Studies minor and Mathematics minor available based on transfer credit, but you'd have to be taking a major from among the majors fully available through YourPace courses, or a BLS or BAS with a primary minor from among the minors fully available through YourPace courses.

Schools in our second tier – less optimized than UMPI and TESU, but more friendly than most schools to alt and transfer credit – which offer environmental science programs online, and some also mathematics, include Southern New Hampshire University, Wilmington University, American Public University System, and the University of Phoenix (which is likely to become an affiliate of the University of Idaho System in 2024). These could be useful for transfer credit even if you ultimately complete at TESU or UMPI.
Thank you, I'll look into those other schools. Do they tend to accept ACE credits?

(12-31-2023, 06:49 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @RavioliMachine, Welcome to the board, that's a great introduction post with the addendum and template, having said that, it's missing the most important piece of the puzzle!  "I already have a degree that is mostly unrelated to my field."  And that's what we're waiting for... We don't know what this degree is yet, it's hard for us to recommend you any degrees from the UMPI BAS with any possible minors up to the TESU BA Environmental Studies & Math Majors...  That one variable is the 'biggest' deciding factor (if it was for me).  I'm even more inclined to inform you the Masters option if you have the prerequisites for something similar...

My apologies! I have a BS in IT.
No that's an on campus degree, not offered on yourpace. There is no way to get an environmental science degree from UMPI unless you are on campus.


SOME colleges take ACE credits, most state school systems and well known private schools do NOT take them. The for profit schools, and UMPI, SNHU, WGU etc tend to take them


RE: Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - bjcheung77 - 01-02-2024

Since you have an IT degree and you're wanting to break into Environmental Studies & Math, have you looked at any graduate level options that don't require an undergrad in Environmental Studies or Math? That's what I would look for first, if that fails, then your best option would be the TESU BA double major for the cost, ease, speed to finish. I would recommend taking all the credits elsewhere and do a PLA for the upper level credits or classes you can't take elsewhere for cheap... You really need to research your options to see if completing it at TESU would be a better mix, or taking a little longer with other programs out there from different institutions, take into account the cost, ease, speed, and most importantly, transfer of alternative credits.


RE: Help with degree plan for combined Math & Environmental Studies - Duneranger - 01-02-2024

(01-02-2024, 02:00 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Since you have an IT degree and you're wanting to break into Environmental Studies & Math, have you looked at any graduate level options that don't require an undergrad in Environmental Studies or Math?  That's what I would look for first, if that fails, then your best option would be the TESU BA double major for the cost, ease, speed to finish.  I would recommend taking all the credits elsewhere and do a PLA for the upper level credits or classes you can't take elsewhere for cheap...  You really need to research your options to see if completing it at TESU would be a better mix, or taking a little longer with other programs out there from different institutions, take into account the cost, ease, speed, and most importantly, transfer of alternative credits.
OSU and Idaho Online both are well known online unis and have MS in ES options. Strong programs as well.