(08-31-2023, 08:05 PM)Kalas Wrote: Have you taken any development classes? It sounds fun until you actually have to do it and have your programs compile.

Based on that course list it looks like you really wouldn't know enough to be a developer or a useful IT guy on the network/systems side of things. It doesn't even have a data structures and algorithms class. Either get a proper IT degree or a real computer science/software engineering degree. This is more like two associates degrees than a bachelor's. I'd hire someone with a couple relevant certifications before I'd hire anyone with this degree.

If you want to be a game dev you'll learn more game development skills at gamedev.tv than you will in those courses. There's no C++ so you can't even begin to touch Unreal. The Javascript courses may or may not give you anything that would actually be useful in something like RPG Maker that allows further customization with JS. At a minimum you'd need pixel art and CG drawing skills to create something you could sell with RPGM or another engine that is equally simple. You wouldn't be hired for a job to do that though, that's putting a year+ of your life into a game, listing it on Steam and hoping enough people buy it so you end up with minimum wage for the time you put into it a couple years after release. Statistically speaking, that is not most people. Unity uses C# so that's good, but there's a lot more to making a game with Unity anyone would want to play than just C#.

I'm very concerned about the lack of math in that degree path. How do you not have to take calc 1?!?! It's legitimately needed in a lot of development in general, but especially in game development that goes beyond the simplest projects or game makers no commercial company would use. No statistics either. That's insane. I am by no means an expert dev, but if you're afraid of discrete math (easier than calc) there is a very good chance that anything in development (especially game development, far more competitive and difficult to break into) will be a hobby and you'll never get to the point of being employable.

I would strongly suggest auditing a calc, stats and discrete math class at edX to start getting better at math if you want to make a go of it as a developer.

(09-07-2023, 04:13 PM)walruspanda Wrote: I'll be honest, even as someone who's a fan of PUG's BSIT degree (in the final term of two right now), the Game Development concentration within BSIT seems...odd. The other concentrations make sense as something either in or adjacent to IT -- for example, I don't do software development per se in my IT job, but I do plenty of Bash and Python coding for API calls and data manipulation, so learning languages has definite IT use. But game development skills aren't useful in IT, and IT skills aren't useful (except on the margins) in game development.

I'm not completely sure what PUG's thought process was here. If I were trying to change careers into game development, this isn't the degree I'd get -- except maybe as a stepping stone into a game development MS.

(09-08-2023, 01:55 PM)CenterSquarEd Wrote: I wish they didn’t call them concentrations. They’re add-on courses that you take in place of other electives, they’re not an area of emphasis within the courses required for the major.

(09-08-2023, 04:04 PM)walruspanda Wrote:

(09-08-2023, 01:55 PM)CenterSquarEd Wrote: I wish they didn’t call them concentrations. They’re add-on courses that you take in place of other electives, they’re not an area of emphasis within the courses required for the major.

That's pretty true for the BS Cybersecurity and the BS Analytics at PUG, when the concentrations are optional. You're essentially choosing to take e.g. Game Development instead of electives in American History. But it's less true of the BSIT, where you're required to take one of the concentrations -- that's more like a concentration in a traditional bachelor's program.

(09-08-2023, 09:29 PM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:

(09-08-2023, 04:04 PM)walruspanda Wrote:

(09-08-2023, 01:55 PM)CenterSquarEd Wrote: I wish they didn’t call them concentrations. They’re add-on courses that you take in place of other electives, they’re not an area of emphasis within the courses required for the major.

That's pretty true for the BS Cybersecurity and the BS Analytics at PUG, when the concentrations are optional. You're essentially choosing to take e.g. Game Development instead of electives in American History. But it's less true of the BSIT, where you're required to take one of the concentrations -- that's more like a concentration in a traditional bachelor's program.

Thanks, I didn’t realize that! I suppose it’s a fine choice to have some fun with the degree then. It’s still a strange combination.