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Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - ausernameisneeded - 07-19-2023
Hi, I'm new to this forum.
I'm interested in an online bachelor of pure mathematics with a minor in philosophy (analitic philosophy) and with some upper level Computer Science classes and applied Math classes as electives.
I would like to do a master in mathematics (pure or applied or another one) at a top university,
I don't know which one yet but my choices will likely be from the top 100 QS World University Rankings.
Location: Central Africa
Your Age: 20
What kind of degree do you want?: It's in the post.
Current Regional Accredited Credits: 0
Current ACE, CLEP, or NCCRS Credits: 0
Any certifications or military experience? No
Budget: 10 to 15k max in scholarships (I don't have any money right now)
Commitments: I currently work full time.
Dedicated time to study: 15 to 25 hours per week.
Timeline: I would like to finish within 1-2 years
Tuition assistance/reimbursement: No
Right now I'm considering SNHU (even though it's applied math focused) for lack of better options. But I'm a bit worried about the quality of education there. I heard that courses are very easy and unproctored.
Also for alternative credits transcripts, GPA and rigour matters.
Thanks for helping me.
RE: Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - Kab - 07-19-2023
Hi!
It's nice that you want to make math with a minor in Phil. It is not the usual degree here, so maybe will need more work to find your match. The first option that comes to my head is Thomas Edison State University (TESU) that has a BA in mathematics. I think you can build it quite to your taste since appears that you must transfer most of the credits: https://www.tesu.edu/heavin/ba/mathematics
I think there you can add all the math courses you find necessary and some philosophy courses as well.
I have no idea about the math degree at SNHU, but usually is more expensive that TESU. If founding is a problem...
Since you are in Africa maybe you know UNISA in SA. Some people around here asked about it and I think somebody went. Price wise they should be more affordable. They have a Bachelor in math https://www.unisa.ac.za/sites/corporate/default/Apply-for-admission/Undergraduate-qualifications/Qualifications/All-qualifications/Bachelor-of-Science-Mathematics-and-Applied-Mathematics-(98801-%E2%80%93-MAM) . If you know something about UNISA, please shared, it can be interesting for somebody and we have few info about it.
Another option could be a liberal arts degree but I do not think will fulfill your interest, but there you could also combine math and philo. comment if you will be interested in that.
RE: Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - ausernameisneeded - 07-19-2023
(07-19-2023, 08:30 AM)Kab Wrote: Hi!The first option I looked at was TESU but it is unranked at usnews (it matters to me) and it doesn't have upper level pure mathematics courses like real analysis and abstract algebra (good luck trying to transfer those from outside sources).
It's nice that you want to make math with a minor in Phil. It is not the usual degree here, so maybe will need more work to find your match. The first option that comes to my head is Thomas Edison State University (TESU) that has a BA in mathematics. I think you can build it quite to your taste since appears that you must transfer most of the credits: https://www.tesu.edu/heavin/ba/mathematics
I think there you can add all the math courses you find necessary and some philosophy courses as well.
I have no idea about the math degree at SNHU, but usually is more expensive that TESU. If founding is a problem...
Since you are in Africa maybe you know UNISA in SA. Some people around here asked about it and I think somebody went. Price wise they should be more affordable. They have a Bachelor in math https://www.unisa.ac.za/sites/corporate/default/Apply-for-admission/Undergraduate-qualifications/Qualifications/All-qualifications/Bachelor-of-Science-Mathematics-and-Applied-Mathematics-(98801-%E2%80%93-MAM) . If you know something about UNISA, please shared, it can be interesting for somebody and we have few info about it.
Another option could be a liberal arts degree but I do not think will fulfill your interest, but there you could also combine math and philo. comment if you will be interested in that.
Take at look at this: https://www.snhu.edu/admission/academic-catalogs#/courses?group=Mathematics&bc=true&bcCurrent=Mathematics&bcItemType=courses
Then the math section at TESU: https://www2.tesu.edu/listall.php
As for UNISA, it looks like a hassle to me
I already have a safety online school that I'll start on January.
I will study it while trying to get private scholarships to pay for SNHU because why not.
So right now the best option for me is SNHU. I started this thread to know if there are better options that I'm not aware of.
RE: Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - bjcheung77 - 07-19-2023
@OP, Welcome to the board, that's a short & sweet template/addendum with all the basic stuff we want to see to gauge what you're looking for... SNHU is a good option, from reading through you first and second posts, that's what I thought you would go for... Since you're starting from the beginning, get as many ACE credits as you can for transfer, they take 90 credits, you just have to do the final 30 with them. I would get the SNHU Bachelors and ladder that up to a UNISA Masters instead! There already is a plan created on the WIKI, follow it and customize it to your liking if needed: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/SNHU_Mathematics_Degree_Plan
RE: Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - dfrecore - 07-19-2023
TESU's math degree is ok, but if it's not going to get you the courses you want/need to take, then there's no sense looking at it. They also don't have a minor in philosophy.
SNHU's math degree is fine, and you only have to choose Applied Math as a concentration if you want to. They also don't have a Philosophy degree.
I might keep looking to see if you can find a school that better fits your requirements. Maybe you do UMPI's BLS degree, with alt-credit, and get it as quickly and cheaply as possible, and then spend a couple years saving up to do the math degree somewhere better.
RE: Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - Jonathan Whatley - 07-19-2023
For a rigorous program from a world-ranked university, there's the University of London external BSc in Mathematics and Economics with academic direction from the London School of Economics.
RE: Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - rachel83az - 07-20-2023
I would not recommend a BLS for (most) international students: it's a possible waste of both time and money. If one is international and is going to settle for a degree they don't want, a Business degree would probably be better. Or, really, anything not liberal arts/studies.
Do the degrees have to come from the same school? Math & philosophy are an unusual combination. What if the math degree comes from a well-ranked school and the philosophy degree does not? IIRC, there are some inexpensive philosophy degrees available at good (but not highly ranked) European schools for cheap.
RE: Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - ausernameisneeded - 07-20-2023
(07-19-2023, 07:25 PM)dfrecore Wrote: TESU's math degree is ok, but if it's not going to get you the courses you want/need to take, then there's no sense looking at it. They also don't have a minor in philosophy.SNHU has a minor in Philosophy (the courses are not great but it's there)
SNHU's math degree is fine, and you only have to choose Applied Math as a concentration if you want to. They also don't have a Philosophy degree.
I might keep looking to see if you can find a school that better fits your requirements. Maybe you do UMPI's BLS degree, with alt-credit, and get it as quickly and cheaply as possible, and then spend a couple years saving up to do the math degree somewhere better.
(07-20-2023, 01:07 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I would not recommend a BLS for (most) international students: it's a possible waste of both time and money. If one is international and is going to settle for a degree they don't want, a Business degree would probably be better. Or, really, anything not liberal arts/studies.A Philosophy degree is not a priority, a minor would be nice if possible (with courses in logic, epistemology, philosophy of religion, philosophy of science...), a pure math degree with a large free elective section with the possibility to transfer 75% of courses from sophia.org, study.com, straigherline is the priority.
Do the degrees have to come from the same school? Math & philosophy are an unusual combination. What if the math degree comes from a well-ranked school and the philosophy degree does not? IIRC, there are some inexpensive philosophy degrees available at good (but not highly ranked) European schools for cheap.
RE: Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - LevelUP - 07-20-2023
(07-20-2023, 07:23 AM)ausernameisneeded Wrote: SNHU has a minor in Philosophy (the courses are not great but it's there)
These courses transfer into SNHU as PHL:
Sophia: Critical Thinking - PHL111 - Introduction to Critical Thinking
Sophia: Introduction to Ethics - PHL212 - Introduction to Ethics
Sophia: Approaches to Studying Religions - PHL230 - Religions of the World
Sophia: Ancient Greek Philosophers - PHLELE - Philosophy Elective
Sophia: Business Ethics - (check with SNHU advising if transfer since new course)
Study.com: Business Ethics - PHL316 - Business Ethics
Saylor Academy: Moral & Political Philosophy - PHL210 - Introduction to Philosophy
Study.com: Introduction to Philosophy - PHL210 - Introduction to Philosophy
SNHU Math Degree Plan
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/SNHU_Mathematics_Degree_Plan
With 45 free electives in the Math Degree Plan, you should be able to grab a minor without taking extra courses for your degree.
Another minor to consider is IT.
RE: Bachelor of Pure Mathematics with a minor in philosophy and Computer science elective - ausernameisneeded - 07-20-2023
(07-20-2023, 01:48 PM)LevelUP Wrote:Thank you.(07-20-2023, 07:23 AM)ausernameisneeded Wrote: SNHU has a minor in Philosophy (the courses are not great but it's there)
These courses transfer into SNHU as PHL:
Sophia: Critical Thinking - PHL111 - Introduction to Critical Thinking
Sophia: Introduction to Ethics - PHL212 - Introduction to Ethics
Sophia: Approaches to Studying Religions - PHL230 - Religions of the World
Sophia: Ancient Greek Philosophers - PHLELE - Philosophy Elective
Sophia: Business Ethics - (check with SNHU advising if transfer since new course)
Study.com: Business Ethics - PHL316 - Business Ethics
Saylor Academy: Moral & Political Philosophy - PHL210 - Introduction to Philosophy
Study.com: Introduction to Philosophy - PHL210 - Introduction to Philosophy
SNHU Math Degree Plan
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/SNHU_Mathematics_Degree_Plan
With 45 free electives in the Math Degree Plan, you should be able to grab a minor without taking extra courses for your degree.
Another minor to consider is IT.
45 credits of free electives are a plus.
But I have a question about the transfer.
75% of the degree can be transferred in but what are the requirements for the remaining 10 courses for someone like me who's interested in filling the free electives with minors?
Does the minors also require 25% of credits to be done at SNHU?
For example the minor of Philosophy is 15 credits, do I have to do 4 of those credits through SNHU or can I transfer all of them?