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BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - ACR1200 - 06-09-2023
Hi, all
I was reading through the TESU BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics credit distribution chart, and needed clarification on what "24 Credits of Liberal Studies Courses" actually constitutes. Are these courses strictly in the humanities, or can they all be UL psychology courses?
I would appreciate any insight
RE: BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - rachel83az - 06-09-2023
For a BALS at TESU, courses must be in at least 2 Liberal Studies subject areas. Example: 1 Computer Science + 1 Biology and the rest in Math. Or 1 Math and the rest in Computer Science.
See https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sample_TESU_BA_Liberal_Studies_Degree_Plan for examples.
Most Psychology courses do not count for the NSM concentration. You need 18 credits that fit under NSM and the remaining 6 credits may be Psychology if that's what you want.
RE: BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - ACR1200 - 06-09-2023
(06-09-2023, 03:56 AM)rachel83az Wrote: For a BALS at TESU, courses must be in at least 2 Liberal Studies subject areas. Example: 1 Computer Science + 1 Biology and the rest in Math. Or 1 Math and the rest in Computer Science.
See https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sample_TESU_BA_Liberal_Studies_Degree_Plan for examples.
Most Psychology courses do not count for the NSM concentration. You need 18 credits that fit under NSM and the remaining 6 credits may be Psychology if that's what you want.
So I could do 18 credits in computer science, and then the 24 remaining "liberal studies courses" can be in mathematics?
RE: BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - rachel83az - 06-09-2023
It's not 18+24 credits. It's 24 credits minus 18 UL credits. You need AT LEAST 18 UL credits and 6 or fewer LL credits. These credits can be a mix of (almost) anything as long as they are in 2 or more subject areas AND the UL credits count toward the NSM concentration. If you wanted to do Comp Sci + Math, yes, that's a good idea.
RE: BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - ACR1200 - 06-09-2023
(06-09-2023, 04:15 AM)rachel83az Wrote: It's not 18+24 credits. It's 24 credits minus 18 UL credits. You need AT LEAST 18 UL credits and 6 or fewer LL credits. These credits can be a mix of (almost) anything as long as they are in 2 or more subject areas AND the UL credits count toward the NSM concentration. If you wanted to do Comp Sci + Math, yes, that's a good idea.
Thank you
RE: BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - ACR1200 - 06-09-2023
Its just confusing, because the old BALS was so much more straightforward.
Original BALS
General Education Credits: 60
Liberal Studies AOS Credits: 30
Electives: 27
Capstone: 3
Total Credits: 120
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Current BALS
General Education Credits: 45
Liberal Studies AOS Credits: 42
Capstone: 3
Electives: 30
Total Credits: 120
RE: BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - ACR1200 - 06-10-2023
Is this any good? Assuming I have the required upper-level credits...
II. Area of Study (45 Credits)
A. Concentration (18 Credits)
Computer Science I
Introduction to Computer Science II
Software Engineering
Introduction to Python
Systems Analysis & Design
Management Information Systems
B. Complete 24 Credits of Liberal Studies Courses
Social Psychology
Psychology of Personality
Organizational Theory
Developmental Psychology
Abnormal Psychology
Physiological Psychology
History and Systems of Psychology
Industrial Psychology
I see what you're saying, but the credit distribution for the NSM concentration doesn't specify the 'complete 24 credits of liberal studies courses' have to be in the NSM category, only the 18 credits. https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/current/undergraduate-catalog/degree-programs-and-certificates/bachelor-of-arts/ba-in-liberal-studies/ba-in-liberal-studies-natural-sciences-mathematics-concentration/ Very confusing for me
RE: BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - Jonathan Whatley - 06-10-2023
Keep in mind if this would help you out that a few biology-minded psychology courses like Physiological Psychology, Biopsychology, and Neuropsychology might be accepted in the NSM category.
RE: BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - ACR1200 - 06-10-2023
(06-10-2023, 09:30 AM)Jonathan Whatley Wrote: Keep in mind if this would help you out that a few biology-minded psychology courses like Physiological Psychology, Biopsychology, and Neuropsychology might be accepted in the NSM category.
Thank you
So do you think TESU would accept these courses? Its honestly hard for me to know, because I've seen contradictory information, and I'm not a student yet, so I don't have an academic advisor
RE: BALS Natural Sciences/Mathematics Clarification - bjcheung77 - 06-11-2023
@ACR1200, you're correct... degrees have changed, you need 45 credits for the Area of Study. 18 in the concentration, 24 in the liberal studies, you don't have to change your subject matter either, you can have it all in one subject if you wanted. For example, if you're using Computer Science courses for your 18 credits, you can take extra computer science or CIS courses towards the liberal studies. You can decide on something else, it really depends on your preferences on subjects you want to get familiar with.