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Help with labs for TESU - Bubbychub - 11-06-2022
I have been searching this forum and I’m pretty sure I understand what my options are but in case I missed it I would appreciate any information anyone could provide.
My plan is to get two degrees at TESU.
The BS in aviation flight technology and the ASNSM in Biology.
I have not yet been in contact with TESU but I know that I will need PHYSICS 1 with lab and PHYSICS 2 with lab as well as BIO 2 with lab. So far it seems that my options are SDC (or similar) for PHYSICS 1, 2 and BIO 2 and then get the labs from TESU or get those classes with lab from NMJC or similar.
I would like to avoid doing the labs at TESU as it is the more expensive way. I don’t mind taking the classes from NMJC but it seems that that might be slower.
Is there a way to get any or all of these classes with a lab accepted by TESU that is online, self-paced, and relatively quick? I would rather pay around less than $500 per class but if I have to, I can pay more.
In addition, I will probably take CHEM 1 and 2 so any idea of where to take them that falls under those same parameters would help.
Finally, If I do take the labs at TESU, will the CLEP BIO 2 cover BIO 2 at TESU?
In addition to all the classes below I have 20 hours of RA classes with a 3.0 GPA and all the credits given for previous flight Training and experience which equates to somewhere between 45 and 65 depending on how they award it.
CLEP BIO
CLEP NAT SCI
CLEP INTRO PSYCH
CLEP INTRO SOCIOLOGY
CLEP ANALYZING & INTERPRETING LIT
CLEP AMERICAN LITERATURE
CLEP ENGLISH LITERATURE
CLEP COLLEGE COMPOSITION
CLEP HIST US 1
CLEP HIST US 2
CLEP AMERICAN GOVERNMENT
CLEP INFORMATION SYSTEMS
CLEP COLLEGE MATH
COLLEGE ALGEBRA SOPHIA
INTRO TO STATISTICS SOPHIA
INTRO TO ETHICS SOPHIA
CALCULUS SOPHIA
COMMUNICATIONS 120: PRESENTATION SKILLS IN THE WORKPLACE STUDY.COM
Currently taking:
Earth Science 104: Intro to Meteorology STUDY.COM
Adding up all the credits that would be accepted by TESU it comes out to a maximum, (so far), of 160 credits.
RE: Help with labs for TESU - dfrecore - 11-07-2022
So, the main issue you're going to have with the Aviation degree is the AoS, because you have to bring in the pilot licenses. But if you have those, then you're set.
The next things are the sciences/labs:
1) CLEP Biology covers BIO I & II at TESU
2) BIO I Lab - SL (or you can retake BIO I w/Lab at SDC, but they don't have a standalone lab)
3) BIO II Lab - this is the tricky one, because some schools won't let you take BIO II Lab without showing that you've taken BIO I w/Lab and BIO II - you're going to need to find a school that accepts ACE credit, or CLEP exams. NMJC takes the CLEP Bio exam, but only gives credit for Bio I, meaning they may make you take Bio II w/Lab (rather than just allowing you to take the Bio II Lab course). Others may know of some Bio II standalone labs out there (TESU doesn't offer one).
4) Physics I - can be done through SDC or SL
5) Physics I Lab - SL
6) Physics II - SDC
7) Physics II Lab - TESU
The good news is that if you're going to do a single 16cr term at TESU, where you save money by doing the cornerstone, capstone, 3 e-Packs or online courses, and a 1cr course, the Physics II Lab is covered there.
RE: Help with labs for TESU - Bubbychub - 11-07-2022
Thanks for the quick and detailed reply, it is very helpful. I do have the licenses so that will not be a problem. Unfortunately, I don't have the ability to commit to more than one class at a time, so I will probably not be able to do the e-Paks and will just have to pay the residency waiver when I finally start up with TESU.
One of the main reasons I am waiting I am waiting to register at TESU until I have most of the classes is that I do not want to have to pay a second residency waiver if I take too long to get everything. I am currently a working pilot and my schedule goes from plenty of free time to hardly any on a very inconsistent basis.
Do you know if the Chem Labs and any other labs for Anatomy etc. going to fall under the same rules and not be accepted by TESU?
RE: Help with labs for TESU - bjcheung77 - 11-07-2022
Wait, you only pay one residency waiver fee/graduation fee and that's when you graduate, why would you pay for them when you're not graduating yet? All approved labs by a community college or university, or those alternative credit providers they accept should be fine. I wouldn't worry about pay the residency waiver or taking the courses at this time, your best bet is to get an evaluation to verify what's missing and to get an action plan in place to take the alternative credits first. The final RA credits should come last, make sure to have at least 30 RA credits, 3 of them are coming from TESU at minimum for the capstone if you're going the edx route for the Info Lit cornerstone.
RE: Help with labs for TESU - dfrecore - 11-07-2022
(11-07-2022, 04:53 PM)Bubbychub Wrote: Thanks for the quick and detailed reply, it is very helpful. I do have the licenses so that will not be a problem. Unfortunately, I don't have the ability to commit to more than one class at a time, so I will probably not be able to do the e-Paks and will just have to pay the residency waiver when I finally start up with TESU.
One of the main reasons I am waiting I am waiting to register at TESU until I have most of the classes is that I do not want to have to pay a second residency waiver if I take too long to get everything. I am currently a working pilot and my schedule goes from plenty of free time to hardly any on a very inconsistent basis.
Do you know if the Chem Labs and any other labs for Anatomy etc. going to fall under the same rules and not be accepted by TESU?
You don't pay the residency waiver until you apply for graduation, so that's not an issue.
I don't know what you're referring to about the Chem Labs or Anatomy labs that TESU might not accept. TESU will accept everything I've listed, the only issue I brought up was whether NMJC would allow you to take the BIO2 lab there or not. It's not a matter of TESU at that point.
Honestly, I'd drop the ASNSM degree and focus on the Aviation degree; that negates the need for the Bio 2 lab at all, and leaves you with just the Physics II lab which you can take at TESU.
With your schedule, really, you ought to be focusing on what's most important, and not let something like an AS degree distract you from your goal and make it harder, rather than easier, to get a bachelor's degree.
RE: Help with labs for TESU - Bubbychub - 11-07-2022
First off, thanks very much for your help both of you. it is very helpful to know that the residency waiver is a one time fee I had thought there was an expiration date on it.
I don't need any of these degrees. I'm 58 and I just thought that I might as well work on keeping my brain from deteriorating. Also, I have always wanted to study biology and would like eventually to get a BS or MS in marine biology. Since the ASNSM would only would only require a couple of classes that I am actually very interested in I figured I might as well kill two birds with one stone.
The CHEM and Anatomy were simply extra biology related classes and I had hoped to find a way to take them with labs that was relatively simple and accepted by TESU.
Based on your helpful information my next step will be to get an evaluation from TESU.
RE: Help with labs for TESU - davewill - 11-08-2022
(11-07-2022, 08:29 PM)Bubbychub Wrote: First off, thanks very much for your help both of you. it is very helpful to know that the residency waiver is a one time fee I had thought there was an expiration date on it.
I don't need any of these degrees. I'm 58 and I just thought that I might as well work on keeping my brain from deteriorating. Also, I have always wanted to study biology and would like eventually to get a BS or MS in marine biology. Since the ASNSM would only would only require a couple of classes that I am actually very interested in I figured I might as well kill two birds with one stone.
The CHEM and Anatomy were simply extra biology related classes and I had hoped to find a way to take them with labs that was relatively simple and accepted by TESU.
Based on your helpful information my next step will be to get an evaluation from TESU.
There is an expiration date on it, it's good for a year after you pay it. The thing is that you don't pay it until you're ready to graduate. The possibiity of paying it twice would only come up if you graduated the associates before the bachelor's and waited too long in between. The simple solution is to graduate them together.
RE: Help with labs for TESU - dfrecore - 11-08-2022
(11-07-2022, 08:29 PM)Bubbychub Wrote: I don't need any of these degrees. I'm 58 and I just thought that I might as well work on keeping my brain from deteriorating. Also, I have always wanted to study biology and would like eventually to get a BS or MS in marine biology. Since the ASNSM would only would only require a couple of classes that I am actually very interested in I figured I might as well kill two birds with one stone.
The CHEM and Anatomy were simply extra biology related classes and I had hoped to find a way to take them with labs that was relatively simple and accepted by TESU.
Unfortunately, even if you did manage to get an ASNSM in Biology (or even a BA), that won't help you with a BS or MS in Marine Biology - because you will most likely go to a school that does not accept ACE credit. Meaning, they aren't going to bring those Bio classes & labs over from SDC or maybe even CLEP.
If you want a Marine Bio degree, your best bet is to search for them, and see what those schools are requiring as pre-reqs - and then get those courses done via RA credit at a CC. It will probably take quite a long time to get your pre-reqs done, but that's really your best bet.
I'm not sure what an MS in Marine Bio will require, but I'd start looking to see what's available. If they want pre-reqs, then you'll need those as RA as well. But if they will take a generic degree, then it may not matter.
RE: Help with labs for TESU - bjcheung77 - 11-09-2022
@Bubbychub, yeah, apply to get the ball rolling. It's best to see where all the info gets transferred in as and what's remaining. If you're missing any gen ed or lower-level course requirements, finish them off with CLEP and/or Sophia.org; I suggest continuing on your plan and see where this all ends up. Make sure to 'hit' entry requirements for your future degree...
Find a few programs online that can be done for the BS/MS Marine Biology and note down their requirements for entry. Once you're done with your degrees with these requirements, you can revisit the BS/MS Marine Biology then. A member here completed the AS Biology at TESU and was accepted at U of Florida MS Microbiology program without a BA/BS in Biology.