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ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - NewatTESU - 10-01-2022
Any recommendations for MS inn Biology in ASU vs Liberty University?
Also any students from these university?
RE: ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - sanantone - 10-01-2022
ASU! ASU! ASU! Liberty has a poor reputation among scientists, especially biologists, because of their stance on evolution.
RE: ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - ifomonay - 10-01-2022
ASU. It's a school with no agenda.
RE: ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - bjcheung77 - 10-02-2022
Have you looked at others that are in your state and also online? ASU has several biology programs, is there a specific one you're looking at?
ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - NewatTESU - 10-02-2022
(10-02-2022, 01:28 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Have you looked at others that are in your state and also online? ASU has several biology programs, is there a specific one you're looking at?
Yes, looking for campus/in person admission in the Texas state but that will take another season to start (spring or summer). Meanwhile, thinking to start online (without wasting time) and may transfer when get accepted in campus.
By the way , this is for my friend in Texas. There are very competitive university in biology in campus/online. Last summer, everywhere her applications were rejected. May be anyone can suggest low ranking university/college in Texas for campus/in person.
RE: ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - wildebeest - 10-02-2022
(10-02-2022, 11:04 AM)NewatTESU Wrote:(10-02-2022, 01:28 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Have you looked at others that are in your state and also online? ASU has several biology programs, is there a specific one you're looking at?
Yes, looking for campus/in person admission in the Texas state but that will take another season to start (spring or summer). Meanwhile, thinking to start online (without wasting time) and may transfer when get accepted in campus.
By the way , this is for my friend in Texas. There are very competitive university in biology in campus/online. Last summer, everywhere her applications were rejected. May be anyone can suggest low ranking university/college in Texas for campus/in person.
You might have a hard time finding a graduate school to start before the spring semester, which is only three months away, and applications and transcripts take time.
UTPB has an in-person MS in biology: https://www.utpb.edu/academics/programs/biology/ms-biology
As does Lamar: https://www.lamar.edu/arts-sciences/biology/degrees/master-of-science-biology.html
For an additional online option, though it couldn't be started before spring, the school where I'm currently doing grad school (EIU) has an online MS in biological sciences. The sessions are full semesters, which is a drawback for some, but it is fairly reasonably priced at $410 per credit all-in (this includes course fees, technology fees, and book rentals). Probably not the cheapest option, but it's about $1,500 less than ASU per semester (assuming three classes), and more if you have to buy books at ASU, which I don't know. That said, while EIU is a good, respectable university, I'm sure ASU is much more well known. I also cannot speak for the biology department at EIU, as that isn't my field. But, I know the school because I go there, I personally really like it, and I have found both administrators and professors great to work with.
https://www.eiu.edu/biologygrad/online.php
RE: ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - bjcheung77 - 10-02-2022
Here's a link to a spreadsheet I just updated for my future Biology studies at the master's level. I am thinking of adding a few more to make the list up to about 20 shortlists, entirely online... I prefer public/state schools over private/non-profit ones though... What I am thinking is getting the WSU Grad Cert and ladder it up to one of these master's degrees. Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PTVUsALyBYHLgnYnopPoxZGP5SJNFpwt4x-tAuWDS1Q/edit?usp=sharing
RE: ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - NewatTESU - 10-02-2022
(10-02-2022, 03:45 PM)wildebeest Wrote:(10-02-2022, 11:04 AM)NewatTESU Wrote:(10-02-2022, 01:28 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Have you looked at others that are in your state and also online? ASU has several biology programs, is there a specific one you're looking at?
Yes, looking for campus/in person admission in the Texas state but that will take another season to start (spring or summer). Meanwhile, thinking to start online (without wasting time) and may transfer when get accepted in campus.
By the way , this is for my friend in Texas. There are very competitive university in biology in campus/online. Last summer, everywhere her applications were rejected. May be anyone can suggest low ranking university/college in Texas for campus/in person.
You might have a hard time finding a graduate school to start before the spring semester, which is only three months away, and applications and transcripts take time.
UTPB has an in-person MS in biology: https://www.utpb.edu/academics/programs/biology/ms-biology
As does Lamar: https://www.lamar.edu/arts-sciences/biology/degrees/master-of-science-biology.html
For an additional online option, though it couldn't be started before spring, the school where I'm currently doing grad school (EIU) has an online MS in biological sciences. The sessions are full semesters, which is a drawback for some, but it is fairly reasonably priced at $410 per credit all-in (this includes course fees, technology fees, and book rentals). Probably not the cheapest option, but it's about $1,500 less than ASU per semester (assuming three classes), and more if you have to buy books at ASU, which I don't know. That said, while EIU is a good, respectable university, I'm sure ASU is much more well known. I also cannot speak for the biology department at EIU, as that isn't my field. But, I know the school because I go there, I personally really like it, and I have found both administrators and professors great to work with.
https://www.eiu.edu/biologygrad/online.php
Thank you ! UTPM has lot of addmission requirements which do not meet.
I have stated reaching out to EIU for more info!
(10-02-2022, 04:54 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Here's a link to a spreadsheet I just updated for my future Biology studies at the master's level. I am thinking of adding a few more to make the list up to about 20 shortlists, entirely online... I prefer public/state schools over private/non-profit ones though... What I am thinking is getting the WSU Grad Cert and ladder it up to one of these master's degrees. Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PTVUsALyBYHLgnYnopPoxZGP5SJNFpwt4x-tAuWDS1Q/edit?usp=sharing
This looks nice. Thank you for sharing !
Please mindful with Washington State University - It has nationally accredited.
University of Missouri - Columbia - only BioMedical science course is nationally accredited. Rest university is regionally accredited.
As per my research, many reputed Universities do accept students into PhD from nationally accredited programs/Universities.
RE: ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - bjcheung77 - 10-03-2022
NewatTESU Wrote:This looks nice. Thank you for sharing !
Please mindful with Washington State University - It has nationally accredited.
University of Missouri - Columbia - only BioMedical science course is nationally accredited. Rest university is regionally accredited.
As per my research, many reputed Universities do accept students into PhD from nationally accredited programs/Universities.
That's great, you should do some further research into some programs if you're interested in them. The EIU program mentioned above is very affordable as well. I should and will add that program later into my list as well... Accreditation is hard to explain, there are Nationally Accredited institutions which usually deal with trade/vocational diplomas/degrees but now have crossed over to Associates, Bachelors, Masters and Doctoral degrees in various fields.
In regards to Washington State University, the university is Regionally Accredited by NWCCU and University of Missouri - Columbia may have programs that are Nationally Recognized (It's different than being Accredited), both are RA and should have Nationally Recognized programs as well... These programs may have programmatic/secondary accreditation.
Nationally Recognized programs are different than the institutional accreditation they have programmatic or secondary accreditation in addition to RA or NA, as an example ABET, it just indicates the program be it Computing or Engineering has nationally recognized programs and are authorized by ABET. Another is ACBSP, they accredit Business programs nationally and internationally.
RE: ASU vs Liberty - For MS in BIOLOGY - sanantone - 10-03-2022
Many schools and organizations misuse the term "nationally accredited." You should go to the school's accreditation page to determine whether they're accredited by one of the regional accreditors. National accreditation and regional accreditation are forms of institutional accreditation. Institutional accreditation applies to the entire college/university, not an individual program or department. However, institutional accreditors do need to approve new programs. Rarely does a school offer a new program without approval.
Programmatic or specialized accreditation applies to a specific degree program or a department focused on one field of study. For example, a university can have AACSB accreditation for one business program or their entire business department/school.
For biology, one should only care about whether the college or university is regionally accredited. There's not a programmatic accreditation for biology that employers are looking for. If the person wants to work in medical technology or clinical laboratory science, then there is NAACLS accreditation for programs of those names.