(07-12-2022, 09:58 PM)EducationSeeker Wrote: I am looking for an MS Excel degree plan template for the Pierpont Associates plan and a degree plan for UMPI Bachelor of Business Management with a concentration in Management/Leadership or Marketing? I don't know all of the acronyms so I am just using regular longer verbiage. I was trying to find both of these Excel templates for UMPI and Pierpoint, but, I cannot find them. Please help.

Thanks,

Education Seeker

(07-13-2022, 01:13 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I don't think that anyone has a spreadsheet for Pierpont. The requirements are very straightforward, especially now. You need 15 credits in specific classes and then 45 credits of anything you want. https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Pierpont_C%26TC#Sophia_Equivalencies

Just about any UMPI plan will also cover Pierpont, but you can use this to help: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Pierpont_to_UMPI_Degree_Plan

Some courses have changed since ashkir started this thread, but his spreadsheet should help you make your own. https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-6-Month-UMPI-BA-in-Management-for-3-222

(07-14-2022, 12:12 AM)EducationSeeker Wrote: I am a visual person so I need to create an Excel template for a Pierpont BOG Associates degree plan even if nobody else has done this although I find this hard to believe considering how detailed instructions are on Degree Forum. Hopefully, this will be a good exercise for a template for something else when/if my son gets the Pierpont AAS degree.

(07-14-2022, 12:12 AM)EducationSeeker Wrote: I am a visual person so I need to create an Excel template for a Pierpont BOG Associates degree plan even if nobody else has done this although I find this hard to believe considering how detailed instructions are on Degree Forum. Hopefully, this will be a good exercise for a template for something else when/if my son gets the Pierpont AAS degree.

Other than creating more working figuring out transferring to UMPI or another university, if my son's end goal is a Bachelor's degree, what is the utility of getting an Associates along the way unless it makes it easier to transfer into UMPI? I keep coming back to this question. I have attached the first attempt at a degree plan and attached it. If he does Business area of specialty for the Pierpont AAS BOG program, it looks like he would need 24 credit hours?

Please let me know what additional credits he could use for electives or what he would already have credit for?

Thanks,

Education Seeker

(07-14-2022, 09:31 AM)ss20ts Wrote:

(07-14-2022, 12:12 AM)EducationSeeker Wrote: I am a visual person so I need to create an Excel template for a Pierpont BOG Associates degree plan even if nobody else has done this although I find this hard to believe considering how detailed instructions are on Degree Forum. Hopefully, this will be a good exercise for a template for something else when/if my son gets the Pierpont AAS degree.

Other than creating more working figuring out transferring to UMPI or another university, if my son's end goal is a Bachelor's degree, what is the utility of getting an Associates along the way unless it makes it easier to transfer into UMPI? I keep coming back to this question. I have attached the first attempt at a degree plan and attached it. If he does Business area of specialty for the Pierpont AAS BOG program, it looks like he would need 24 credit hours?

Please let me know what additional credits he could use for electives or what he would already have credit for?

Thanks,

Education Seeker

Most people create their own template because they already have a bunch of courses from somewhere. They also set up the template so that they understand it. Lots of people don't keep them once they graduate. When I attended UMPI I didn't have a template that would have made any sense to anyone else. What works for Pierpont doesn't necessarily mean it works for UMPI so if UMPI is the actual goal, I'd focus on UMPI. An associate degree has no bearing on transfer to UMPI. It doesn't waive anyone from the GEC or any course at all.

(07-14-2022, 12:31 PM)EducationSeeker Wrote: @ss20ts

Thank you for the insight and advice. I think that while the Pierpont BOG AAS degree is a nice credential, for my son's purpose, the end goal is a Bachelor's degree ideally in something Business related. With that said, I think adding the Pierpont BOG just makes it more confusing. 

I have already downloaded Ashkir's UMPI degree plan and also developed an Excel plan from scratch utilizing some of the other members advice. We have scheduled a session for my son tomorrow at 3 PM to at least speak with a UMPI representative as he has more questions regarding the program and wondering what classes will be transferred. I don't think he will apply until he is near or as close to the 90 credit hour mark as possible. He is looking at the UMPI Your Pace BBI with a concentration/area of specialty in Management and Leadership as it appears somewhat easier to get based on feedback on the forum.

From what we can see, it looks like UMPI would be the cheapest option to obtain a Bachelor's degree. Not counting the "D" grade in History, he will have about 25 transferrable RA credits. he will need an additional 65 credits or so (roughly about 11 or 12 three credit hour courses) to maximize the amount of classes that UMPI would accept.

Thanks,

Education Seeker

(07-14-2022, 12:44 PM)ss20ts Wrote:

(07-14-2022, 12:31 PM)EducationSeeker Wrote: @ss20ts

Thank you for the insight and advice. I think that while the Pierpont BOG AAS degree is a nice credential, for my son's purpose, the end goal is a Bachelor's degree ideally in something Business related. With that said, I think adding the Pierpont BOG just makes it more confusing. 

I have already downloaded Ashkir's UMPI degree plan and also developed an Excel plan from scratch utilizing some of the other members advice. We have scheduled a session for my son tomorrow at 3 PM to at least speak with a UMPI representative as he has more questions regarding the program and wondering what classes will be transferred. I don't think he will apply until he is near or as close to the 90 credit hour mark as possible. He is looking at the UMPI Your Pace BBI with a concentration/area of specialty in Management and Leadership as it appears somewhat easier to get based on feedback on the forum.

From what we can see, it looks like UMPI would be the cheapest option to obtain a Bachelor's degree. Not counting the "D" grade in History, he will have about 25 transferrable RA credits. he will need an additional 65 credits or so (roughly about 11 or 12 three credit hour courses) to maximize the amount of classes that UMPI would accept.

Thanks,

Education Seeker

There have been some changes to courses transferring from Sophia since ashkir completed his degree. 

Who are you scheduled to speak with at UMPI? If it's an enrollment counselor, you're wasting your time. They're sales people hired by a third party company. They know very little about UMPI. They can't help with transfer credits at all. 

He won't get an official response to transferring courses until he applies and they process his transcripts. We have everything that is needed to complete an UMPI degree listed in the Wiki. I wouldn't apply until he's completed the 90 transfer credits. It's best to focus on one provider at a time. He'll want to put his study time into UMPI's courses so that he'll move through them quickly. They're much more elaborate than Sophia's courses. 

What is BBI? Sounds like he's looking at UMPI's BABA Management & Leadership Concentration. 

I still believe he should join the forum and ask questions. You've asked the same questions repeatedly which may be due to the confusion of trying to complete 2 degrees at the same time. It's best to plan out one at a time. Some of the Pierpont degree may not transfer to UMPI. Your son also needs to understand how this works so it's really in his best interest to join the forum and ask questions. He'll be meeting with his academic advisor by himself once he's a student. He'll need to know what he took and where he thought the course should apply. He will need to advocate for himself. UMPI does follow FERPA so you won't be able to be a part of those conversations.