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Experience with TESU: MAT-351 Math Modeling, MAT331 Cal III, MAT301 History of math? - StudentOLife - 05-20-2022
I'm looking to see if I can take more TESU courses/credits to not get a waiver fee tagged on, doing it in 1, followed by capstone in the next semester.
The syllabus of 351 is definitely interesting and I think relevant to what I'd want to do, that said I read this thread that spooked me as it was really hard for this person dropped out.
Are MAT-351 Math Modeling, MAT331 Cal III, MAT301 History of math, PLA, and information literacy generally quite feasible to take on with about 40 hrs of spare time a week?... Or will any of those surprise me in terms of time sink?
I'm thinking I may even try and get a head start taking free courses out there of these topics before I kick off the semester.
RE: Experience with TESU: MAT-351 Math Modeling, MAT331 Cal III, MAT301 History of math? - LevelUP - 05-20-2022
SOS 110 information literacy is mainly busy work, nothing hard. About 40hrs it took me.
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-SOS-110-Critical-Information-Literacy-My-Experience
In the Liberal Arts capstone in theory you could write your entire paper before you start the course. That course starts out slow, then towards the end the oral presentation and final paper are due.
History of Math looks like only papers with no projects. Should be straightforward.
MAT-351 Math Modeling has an open-source ebook to DL:
https://milneopentextbooks.org/introduction-to-the-modeling-and-analysis-of-complex-systems/
Calculus III difficulty depends on how hard how Calculus I & II was for you.
You could try to study ahead of time by reading the books and going through the exercises for MAT-351 and Calculus III. Those 2 courses seem the hardest.
If you can complete 50% of the course work, then you could apply for an 8-week course extension:
https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/current/Undergraduate-Catalog/University-Policies-and-Procedures/Undergraduate-Course-Policies/Course-Extensions
(Deciding on biting the bullet and pay the residential waiver vs doing 16 credit term to save $2-3k)
If you did 16 credits over multiple terms you wouldn't pay the residency waiver though it will cost you $3k more versus a flat-term.
Graduating and finishing every course is more important than saving money so make sure you will be able to finish.
Another idea is that if you are worried about Math Modeling at TESU and were going to take it outside a flat-rate term, then maybe consider taking this and Calculus III at SNHU? Their rate is $960 a course and the terms are 2 months. SNHU is known for easy A's though I would expect the math would be super easy.
https://www.snhu.edu/admission/academic-catalogs/coce-catalog#/programs/VJnjmVIKe
TESU would have to transfer these SNHU courses correctly so you would need to look into that.
RE: Experience with TESU: MAT-351 Math Modeling, MAT331 Cal III, MAT301 History of math? - StudentOLife - 05-20-2022
Thank you. The experience on info lit was really helpful, are there lots of materials to help us get good scores on the pretest? sounds like that's the bit to do well in to prevent time sink.
I have already look elsewhere for math UL, there's definitely more options and courses that are more aligned to CS. But that means it's be more expensive + have to pay for waiver fee & take two courses (info lit & capstone) from TESU anyways. Agree that finishing is more important, but at some stage money is also a factor since I can go out and learn other topics myself tbh.
Calculus I & II wasn't too hard but I took it at straigherline + learned from Khan so I'm not sure about the quality of instruction comparatively.
I wonder if it'd just be easier to take on college geometry if I want an easy pass, as it seems like things I'd already know/not that different from AP high school geometry. Getting a good enough GPA at least from TESU may be a nice addition.
Extensions are definitely a lifeline.
RE: Experience with TESU: MAT-351 Math Modeling, MAT331 Cal III, MAT301 History of math? - gams007 - 05-21-2022
(05-20-2022, 06:19 PM)LevelUP Wrote: SOS 110 information literacy is mainly busy work, nothing hard. About 40hrs it took me.
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-SOS-110-Critical-Information-Literacy-My-Experience
In the Liberal Arts capstone in theory you could write your entire paper before you start the course. That course starts out slow, then towards the end the oral presentation and final paper are due.
History of Math looks like only papers with no projects. Should be straightforward.
MAT-351 Math Modeling has an open-source ebook to DL:
https://milneopentextbooks.org/introduction-to-the-modeling-and-analysis-of-complex-systems/
Calculus III difficulty depends on how hard how Calculus I & II was for you.
You could try to study ahead of time by reading the books and going through the exercises for MAT-351 and Calculus III. Those 2 courses seem the hardest.
If you can complete 50% of the course work, then you could apply for an 8-week course extension:
https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/current/Undergraduate-Catalog/University-Policies-and-Procedures/Undergraduate-Course-Policies/Course-Extensions
(Deciding on biting the bullet and pay the residential waiver vs doing 16 credit term to save $2-3k)
If you did 16 credits over multiple terms you wouldn't pay the residency waiver though it will cost you $3k more versus a flat-term.
Graduating and finishing every course is more important than saving money so make sure you will be able to finish.
Another idea is that if you are worried about Math Modeling at TESU and were going to take it outside a flat-rate term, then maybe consider taking this and Calculus III at SNHU? Their rate is $960 a course and the terms are 2 months. SNHU is known for easy A's though I would expect the math would be super easy.
https://www.snhu.edu/admission/academic-catalogs/coce-catalog#/programs/VJnjmVIKe
TESU would have to transfer these SNHU courses correctly so you would need to look into that.
My question is how much cost a course extension at TESU?
I'm deciding to take the flat rate to finished my degree, and I am going to take several courses in one term, so I can be prepared in case I need more time to finished one of the courses I'm planning to take.
RE: Experience with TESU: MAT-351 Math Modeling, MAT331 Cal III, MAT301 History of math? - Cofffeee - 05-21-2022
236$
https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/fees
You must complete at least 50% of course work
RE: Experience with TESU: MAT-351 Math Modeling, MAT331 Cal III, MAT301 History of math? - LevelUP - 05-21-2022
A course extension is $236
https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/fees
RE: Experience with TESU: MAT-351 Math Modeling, MAT331 Cal III, MAT301 History of math? - bjcheung77 - 05-21-2022
@StudentOLife, if you've taken StraighterLine Calculus I & II, that's the BEST option for Calculus prep as the courses don't cut corners, you learn as much as a traditional butt-in-seat course in college. These two courses you've taken is the best prep for further Calculus than any other ACE/NCCRS provider I've seen...
@gams007, depending on the courses you are going to take, if at all possible take the 1 term with everything. However, if you're like StudentOLife and taking courses all at the upper level, then I suggest the same step as them, first term for enough credits to remove residency waiver fee, and the second term for corner & capstone.
RE: Experience with TESU: MAT-351 Math Modeling, MAT331 Cal III, MAT301 History of math? - StudentOLife - 05-22-2022
(05-21-2022, 10:32 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @StudentOLife, if you've taken StraighterLine Calculus I & II, that's the BEST option for Calculus prep as the courses don't cut corners, you learn as much as a traditional butt-in-seat course in college. These two courses you've taken is the best prep for further Calculus than any other ACE/NCCRS provider I've seen...
@gams007, depending on the courses you are going to take, if at all possible take the 1 term with everything. However, if you're like StudentOLife and taking courses all at the upper level, then I suggest the same step as them, first term for enough credits to remove residency waiver fee, and the second term for corner & capstone.
Amazing, great to know @bjcheung77, i'm moving on to my next struggle on Cal III...!
Btw do you know anything about Coopersmith MAT 303 and MAT 301? I've got a thread here trying to find out if they both can be accepted by TESU as UL