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HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - bjcheung77 - 09-20-2021
WGU's MSML and MBA share a few courses, people are thinking of taking both or in the process, because of these overlapping classes.
I was looking at HAU, they have a joint MBA & MSSM, I thought there would be overlapping courses, and there are 5 after the MBA.
For someone who likes to learn, not take as many courses, I would like the minimum course load and finish both degrees together.
After digging through their catalog, I found a method with Waivers and/or PLA/transfers! Awesome eh!? It should ring in cheap!
How does this work? Well, there are basically a few steps to follow, take out the kinks in their workings... I guess...
HAU MBA requires 9 core, 2 electives, 1 capstone (total 12 courses) 3 can be substituted. That is what we are doing!
1) Complete transfer credits or foreign credits for academic evaluation (think ENEB/PLA), you need 3 courses min/max
2) From the 9 core subjects, get a waiver for 3 as substitution courses, take 3 from the MSSM, any 3 will work for you
3) From the 2 required electives, choose the 2 remaining courses for the Joint MSSM requirements (see spreadsheet below)
In order to get the MSSM, you just need to take 5 courses in addition to your MBA at HAU.
Because there are 2 elective courses, that number drops to 3. And you can waive 3 courses.
Tada! You're just going to have to pay the required $3000 if you get the scholarship and get 2 Masters for the price of 1.
Waivers (substitute classes) info is on Page 23/24 in the 2021-2022 catalog I have linked below.
HAU MSSM Link: https://www.hauniv.edu/masters-in-sales-management
HAU MBA Link: https://www.hauniv.edu/masters-in-business-administration
HAU Catalog Link: : https://www.hauniv.edu/academics/course-catalog
2021-2022 Catalog Link: https://www.hauniv.edu/images/ACADEMICS/Calendars/2021-22_Academic_Calendar.pdf
HAU MSSM & MBA Spreadsheet Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12BleUldPePHDhr88VdtDD3bA0lxEQwbg/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=115798492353884812794&rtpof=true&sd=true
Note: The MBA scholarship has been extended to November 1, 2021 for the upcoming cohorts. Apply and use the strategic/tactic above.
For those who have applied and are taking courses, see if you can "substitute" your core/elective courses with the MSSM requirements.
All in all, good luck, have fun for anyone interested in this program, it will rival WGU's double degree in many ways...
RE: HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - allvia - 09-20-2021
Not all of HAU's programs are available online normally (in non-pandemic times); have you confirmed that the MSSM courses are? Also the $3k 'Rolling Cohort' MBA - well, it appears your options for courses are from a fixed list (meaning substitutions would/could be transferred in from outside - but again that is more $). I suspect that getting both degrees for the $3k is unlikely.
RE: HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - ReyMysterioso - 09-21-2021
You lost me, man.
RE: HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - bjcheung77 - 09-21-2021
I dunno, it's like connecting the dots... anyways, I've emailed the Dean, Ms Martin should be able to answer my questions I had before my original post. Looking forward to see what is required and if my assumptions are valid... awesome deal if it's possible... I've asked about the tuition for taking courses if needed, hope it's cheaper than what I searched online, if I wanted one of their certificates, a few interest me...
RE: HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - newdegree - 09-21-2021
As I posted on the sister forum, Just had a quick question about which courses can be waived I tried to understand the spreadsheet but couldn't identify which MBA courses would directly be waived as the same course in the MSSM.
RE: HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - bjcheung77 - 09-21-2021
And I got half my questions asked (as I sent two emails). Here's the first one! If you had to "pay" for the 3 waiver courses, it'll be 3x the cost she mentioned. If you get the 3 course substitution. Technically, it should be FREE! <waiting for an answer is such a drag...>
Thank you for your questions. Yes, we actually do have November 1st open. If you would like to complete the application I recommend doing so as soon as possible to hold your tuition placement.
The program can be fully online. I assume you would like the online track option. I can not your previous file with your interest and the $3,000.00 scholarship amount.
The MBA is 12 courses as you outlined. The catalog price per graduate course is $1,167.67 however sometimes we offer scholarships for some of the certificates we offer which could lower the tuition price.
Please let me know if I have answer any more of your questions.
RE: HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - sanantone - 09-21-2021
Has anyone attempted to transfer ENEB courses to HAU? They'll waive up to 9 graduate credits without substitution for experiential learning or credit by examination, but they can also determine that your experience only warrants waiving a course with substitution.
It looks like Sales Analytics, Business and Strategic Management, and Business Finance for Sales Managers would be left. Which ENEB courses be the equivalent of those?
According to the catalog, you can't waiver the sales courses. The waiver only applies to the MBA and MAAL. Therefore, you can only transfer in the three remaining sales courses.
I'm not seeing the value in having an MBA and sales degree. If you're going to try to transfer in and substitute everything, you're not learning anything new.
RE: HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - eLearner - 09-21-2021
(09-21-2021, 03:23 PM)sanantone Wrote: Has anyone attempted to transfer ENEB courses to HAU? They'll waive up to 9 graduate credits without substitution for experiential learning or credit by examination, but they can also determine that your experience only warrants waiving a course with substitution.
It looks like Sales Analytics, Business and Strategic Management, and Business Finance for Sales Managers would be left. Which ENEB courses be the equivalent of those?
I wonder if HAU is a school that does foreign credential evaluations in-house? If not, (and I know I'm not saying anything we don't already know about this), like most schools they'll more than likely take a successful foreign credential evaluation from a reputable 3rd party evaluator. I've found that some schools have limits on foreign credit transfer based on different factors, but I have no idea myself how liberal HAU is/isn't with it so it would be interesting to see how their policy on foreign credit would work out in a real situation.
RE: HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - newdegree - 09-21-2021
I got my credits reviewed and got three courses waived but it required me to send my official transcripts and course syllabus.
RE: HAU Joint MBA & MSSM combo! <gasp> - allvia - 09-21-2021
(09-21-2021, 04:39 PM)eLearner Wrote:(09-21-2021, 03:23 PM)sanantone Wrote: Has anyone attempted to transfer ENEB courses to HAU? They'll waive up to 9 graduate credits without substitution for experiential learning or credit by examination, but they can also determine that your experience only warrants waiving a course with substitution.
It looks like Sales Analytics, Business and Strategic Management, and Business Finance for Sales Managers would be left. Which ENEB courses be the equivalent of those?
I wonder if HAU is a school that does foreign credential evaluations in-house? If not, (and I know I'm not saying anything we don't already know about this), like most schools they'll more than likely take a successful foreign credential evaluation. I've found that some schools have limits on foreign credit transfer based on different factors, but I have no idea myself how liberal HAU is/isn't with it so it would be interesting to see how their policy on foreign credit would work out in a real situation.
I will add if they do in-house foreign credit evaluation(s) AND you had already completed the ENEB then maybe it would be worth it. However, it wouldn't be practical to go out and complete the ENEB and then transfer into their an MBA program which is already a fantastic RA value at $3k total (currently).