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Confused about the change in TESU - geissingert - 05-16-2019
Quote:Help. I have brain cancer and am feeling a bit better to help my daughter. We enrolled her to TESU on April 3, 2018 and she was approved for all the credits. This is the e-mail we received. Please help me to understand this better. What is on the test? How difficult is it?
Unfortunately, those credits are all from ACE, and through the likes of ALEKS, CLEP, DSST, Straighterline, etc. which are not a regionally accredited institutions.
This does NOT mean we will no longer accept these credits, you’re fine. They will stay a part of your record, and still be on your evaluation and transferable towards your degree.
As the policy indicates, credits that are not from a regionally accredited institution (College or University) cannot be used as a basis for admission, and therefore you will need to take the Accuplacer exam..
You can find information on the Accuplacer exam here: https://accuplacer.collegeboard.org/educator/next-generation . It is an exam that is taken online, and can be done at your convenience. We receive the scores within 24 hours of you taking the exam.
Does she have to retake the following courses?
ALEKS Corporation (McGraw Hill)
College Algebra
ALEKS Corporation (McGraw Hill)
ALEK-0003 Course 11/18/2014
Intermediate Algebra
ALEKS Corporation (McGraw Hill)
ALEK-0002 Course 11/10/2014
Introduction to Statistics
ALEKS Corporation (McGraw Hill)
ALEK-0007 Course 01/05/2015
PreCalculus
ALEKS Corporation (McGraw Hill)
ALEK-0005 Course 11/19/2014
Trigonometry
ALEKS Corporation (McGraw Hill)
ALEK-0006 Course 01/06/2015
College Board's College-Level Examination Program (CLEP)
Analyzing and Interpreting Literature
College Board's College-Level Examination Program (CLEP)
CLEP-0011 Examination 10/03/2014
Introductory Sociology
College Board's College-Level Examination Program (CLEP)
CLEP-0026 Examination 08/28/2014
DSST by Prometric
Business Ethics and Society
DSST by Prometric
DANT-0052 Examination 01/28/2016
Lumerit Education
Comparative Worldviews
Lumerit Education
COLP-0001 Course 07/02/2014
StraighterLine
Accounting I
StraighterLine
OOSL-0009 Course 06/19/2015
Accounting II
StraighterLine
OOSL-0010 Course 06/19/2015
Business Communication
StraighterLine
OOSL-0014 Course 06/12/2015
Business Law
StraighterLine
OOSL-0048 Course 05/11/2015
English Composition I
StraighterLine
OOSL-0005 Course 07/29/2015
English Composition II
StraighterLine
OOSL-0006 Course 08/29/2015
Financial Accounting
StraighterLine
OOSL-0045 Course 04/20/2015
Introduction to Biology
StraighterLine
OOSL-0017 Course 03/11/2015
Introduction to Biology Lab
StraighterLine
OOSL-0018 Course 04/16/2015
Macroeconomics
StraighterLine
OOSL-0007 Course 04/02/2015
Microbiology
StraighterLine
OOSL-0047 Course 03/16/2015
Microeconomics
StraighterLine
OOSL-0008 Course 04/02/2015
United States History I
StraighterLine
OOSL-0039 Course 02/26/2015
United States History II
StraighterLine
OOSL-0044 Course 02/20/2015
Western Civilization I
StraighterLine
OOSL-0040 Course 02/12/2015
Western Civilization II
StraighterLine
OOSL-0043 Course 02/15/2015
Texas Engineering Extension Service
Cyber Security for Business Professionals
Texas Engineering Extension Service
TEEX-0252 Course 09/10/2015
Cyber Security for Everyone
Texas Engineering Extension Service
TEEX-0250 Course 09/10/2015
Cyber Security for IT Professionals
Texas Engineering Extension Service
TEEX-0251 Course 09/10/2015
RE: Confused about the change in TESU - jsd - 05-16-2019
From the letter:
Quote:This does NOT mean we will no longer accept these credits, you’re fine. They will stay a part of your record, and still be on your evaluation and transferable towards your degree.
She won't have to retake them.
The accuplacer I am not familiar with.
RE: Confused about the change in TESU - saraholson - 05-16-2019
the Accuplacer is a test that almost all community colleges require new students to take. it's to see if she has to take remedial classes in english, math or science. you can google it - there are study guides for it online and in book form.
Kids who have taken standardized tests like ACT and SAT don't have to take Accuplacer, normally. usually colleges let you submit those test scores instead of taking accuplacer.
Maybe you should apply to Charter Oak instead. It seems like TESU is making a lot of changes that are less friendly to non-traditional students like the ones in this forum. With all the new stuff happening, i am glad i am almost done. if i were only just starting out, i would choose a different school. it almost seems like TESU is trying to push us away
RE: Confused about the change in TESU - geissingert - 05-16-2019
(05-16-2019, 08:30 PM)saraholson Wrote: the Accuplacer is a test that almost all community colleges require new students to take. it's to see if she has to take remedial classes in english, math or science. you can google it - there are study guides for it online and in book form.My whole family lives in Connecticut. I see the rates are a little less. What are your thoughts on WGU? I need the least expensive and fastest way to have her get a degree and my son. Does Charter oak accept the 2 English’s that don’t require the writing? Tia
Kids who have taken standardized tests like ACT and SAT don't have to take Accuplacer, normally. usually colleges let you submit those test scores instead of taking accuplacer.
Maybe you should apply to Charter Oak instead. It seems like TESU is making a lot of changes that are less friendly to non-traditional students like the ones in this forum. With all the new stuff happening, i am glad i am almost done. if i were only just starting out, i would choose a different school. it almost seems like TESU is trying to push us away
RE: Confused about the change in TESU - saraholson - 05-16-2019
(05-16-2019, 08:44 PM)geissingert Wrote:(05-16-2019, 08:30 PM)saraholson Wrote: the Accuplacer is a test that almost all community colleges require new students to take. it's to see if she has to take remedial classes in english, math or science. you can google it - there are study guides for it online and in book form.My whole family lives in Connecticut. I see the rates are a little less. What are your thoughts on WGU? I need the least expensive and fastest way to have her get a degree and my son. Does Charter oak accept the 2 English’s that don’t require the writing? Tia
Kids who have taken standardized tests like ACT and SAT don't have to take Accuplacer, normally. usually colleges let you submit those test scores instead of taking accuplacer.
Maybe you should apply to Charter Oak instead. It seems like TESU is making a lot of changes that are less friendly to non-traditional students like the ones in this forum. With all the new stuff happening, i am glad i am almost done. if i were only just starting out, i would choose a different school. it almost seems like TESU is trying to push us away
WGU will still make her take a placement test. they have their own version of it. And they also accept fewer ACE credits overall. I don't think that is going to be the best bet.
To find out about the English, i would post a new thread here: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Forum-Excelsior-Thomas-Edison-and-Charter-Oak-Specific-Discussion
and tell people exactly what english classes they are, and see if anyone knows what they transfer in as, to charter oak. title it something like 'Question for Charter Oak - English' so people know what you are asking about. there are a lot of knowledgeable people who can help on this forum
RE: Confused about the change in TESU - walkingbyfaith - 05-16-2019
It is probably due to her age, if she is 18-20 and her credits are not from an RA school. This was one of the unfortunate changes they made recently. Just one more hoop to jump through.
Here is a quote from the website regarding an age waiver....
Admission Waiver:
Applicants (degree seeking and nonmatriculated) who are 18-20 years and who do not meet the military criteria for admission may apply for special consideration by:
- If you possess a high school degree or GED equivalent, and have earned a minimum of 24 credits from a regionally accredited college/university with a grade point average of 2.0 or higher.
- Complete the Age Waiver Petition Request Form
- Reading Comprehension: 236 or higher
- Sentence Skills: 241 or higher
- Arithmetic: 216 or higher
To request that Accuplacer information be sent to you, please complete the Age Waiver Petition
RE: Confused about the change in TESU - dfrecore - 05-16-2019
This is not about whether or not her credits will work, this is about admission into the school. If you are between the ages of 18-20, then TESU requires that you have 24cr from RA schools - so transfer credits from another college, not from ACE/NCCRS.
My question is, what do you mean by "We enrolled her to TESU on April 3, 2018 and she was approved for all the credits."? If she is already an enrolled student, then this shouldn't be an issue. If you APPLIED back in April last year, but then never enrolled (either by taking a course or taking a TECEP), then her enrollment may have lapsed, and now she has to reapply.
Can you give more info about the situation so we can try to help.
RE: Confused about the change in TESU - Merlin - 05-17-2019
(05-16-2019, 08:55 PM)saraholson Wrote: WGU will still make her take a placement test. they have their own version of it. And they also accept fewer ACE credits overall. I don't think that is going to be the best bet.
As far as I know, for WGU you can get around the placement test by transferring in ACE credits. I've seen people discuss that option in other forums anyway. This would also apply to the new WGU Academy courses (which appears to be a white label version of Straighterline courses with a lower price tag).
As for WGU accepting fewer ACE credits, I don't believe that is correct. WGU is about as open with accepting ACE credits as TESU (they both disallow Shmoop but accept just about everything else). The problem is that WGU has fewer GenEd credits, so you have less wiggle room with taking random GE courses to meet degree requirements like you can for TESU. So you have to look for alt. ed courses (or certificates) that will cover the appropriate requirements in your degree plan. That can be a little challenging for some degrees, though WGU does help by providing transfer guidelines for most degrees. Those outline the types of courses that should apply to a degree plan as well as the courses that cannot be transferred in.
Of course, if by accepting fewer ACE credits you mean WGU has a higher residency requirement, then that is correct. WGU only allows students to transfer in 90 of the 120 credits required for graduation, but it doesn't matter where those courses come from. That is really the main advantage of the big 3, they have low residency requirements (or you can just pay to waive them). But completing the last 30 credits in one 6-month term is very achievable for most people. Heck, there are people who have completed more than 70 credits in 30 days at WGU (though those are not the norm, of course). Most people find that they can generally complete courses at WGU at about the same speed as courses at Straighterline or Study.com.
RE: Confused about the change in TESU - geissingert - 05-17-2019
(05-16-2019, 11:45 PM)dfrecore Wrote: This is not about whether or not her credits will work, this is about admission into the school. If you are between the ages of 18-20, then TESU requires that you have 24cr from RA schools - so transfer credits from another college, not from ACE/NCCRS.My daughter stopped attending classes for credits. I have brain cancer. If she would have taken more classes before 4/3/2019 it would have been fine, as she had close to 80 credits for TESU. Super sad, as I don't have medical insurance. I am looking for the LEAST expensive way for our 2 kids to get degrees. I hope this makes sense.
My question is, what do you mean by "We enrolled her to TESU on April 3, 2018 and she was approved for all the credits."? If she is already an enrolled student, then this shouldn't be an issue. If you APPLIED back in April last year, but then never enrolled (either by taking a course or taking a TECEP), then her enrollment may have lapsed, and now she has to reapply.
Can you give more info about the situation so we can try to help.
RE: Confused about the change in TESU - saraholson - 05-17-2019
(05-17-2019, 03:15 AM)Merlin Wrote:(05-16-2019, 08:55 PM)saraholson Wrote: WGU will still make her take a placement test. they have their own version of it. And they also accept fewer ACE credits overall. I don't think that is going to be the best bet.
As far as I know, for WGU you can get around the placement test by transferring in ACE credits. I've seen people discuss that option in other forums anyway. This would also apply to the new WGU Academy courses (which appears to be a white label version of Straighterline courses with a lower price tag).
As for WGU accepting fewer ACE credits, I don't believe that is correct. WGU is about as open with accepting ACE credits as TESU (they both disallow Shmoop but accept just about everything else). The problem is that WGU has fewer GenEd credits, so you have less wiggle room with taking random GE courses to meet degree requirements like you can for TESU. So you have to look for alt. ed courses (or certificates) that will cover the appropriate requirements in your degree plan. That can be a little challenging for some degrees, though WGU does help by providing transfer guidelines for most degrees. Those outline the types of courses that should apply to a degree plan as well as the courses that cannot be transferred in.
Of course, if by accepting fewer ACE credits you mean WGU has a higher residency requirement, then that is correct. WGU only allows students to transfer in 90 of the 120 credits required for graduation, but it doesn't matter where those courses come from. That is really the main advantage of the big 3, they have low residency requirements (or you can just pay to waive them). But completing the last 30 credits in one 6-month term is very achievable for most people. Heck, there are people who have completed more than 70 credits in 30 days at WGU (though those are not the norm, of course). Most people find that they can generally complete courses at WGU at about the same speed as courses at Straighterline or Study.com.
When I applied at WGU in 2017, they told me i had to take the placement test AND transfer in some Straighterline credits to be eligible to enroll. But their policy may have changed, and also the advisor i spoke to could have been wrong