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Second degree? - pws - 11-20-2018
With a decent number of transferable brick-and-mortar credits, I'm considering a second BA (at TESU or another school), with English for the first and Liberal Studies as the second. Since I have a bunch of Psychology and Communication courses I was planning on doing as BA English Free Electives, if I am to do a second BA, it is best if I have everything planned out from the beginning.
The TESU BALS portion is the following:
Quote:II. Area of Study: Liberal Studies
Students select option A or B
A. Students complete a total of 30 credits of Liberal Studies courses that include at least 15 credits at the 300/400 level and no more than 6 credits at the 100 level.
B. Students select an 18-credit concentration from the list below and complete an additional 12 credits of Liberal Studies courses.
Communications
Computer Science
Criminal Justice
General Management
Healthcare Management
Health and Wellness
Human Resources Management
Humanities
Labor Studies
Natural Sciences/Mathematics
Psychology
Social Sciences
Here is an email from TESU on the subject—however, which dates back to May, 2016—from this post:
TESU email Wrote:The University does not award third Bachelor's degrees. However, if you wish to earn a second degree after the completion of your BSBA, you will be subject to the second degree policy which states,
1. Students must complete a minimum of 12 additional NEW credits in the option for a second associate degree and 24 additional NEW credits in the area of study/core for a second baccalaureate degree beyond the date all prior degrees were completed.
2. Students must select an option which is significantly different from their previous degree(s).
3. Students must complete all requirements for the degree as listed in the current Thomas Edison State University Catalog.
4. The University will not award a third baccalaureate degree.
Also, while pursuing the second degree, if you do not meet the 16 credit residency required under the Per Credit Tuition plan, you will need to pay the Residency Waiver Fee.
- The TESU AOS guidelines say you need 18 credits from the categories listed, and 12 LS credits. With the 24 credit requirement for a second degree, how would this work out—would it be 16 from the categories listed and 10 LS credits, or 12 non-LS and 12 LS?
- Would I need to complete the Liberal Studies Capstone?
- Would a BA in English and a BALS be possible (point 2 in the TESU email)?
- There are different sources on the forum saying you wouldn't be required to pay the Residency Waiver Fee if for example you complete the second degree in the same year (email isn't reliable according the the thread the post is in)—has this been confirmed since the past few years?
RE: Second degree? - jsh1138 - 11-20-2018
if you have alot of psy and communication credits, why wouldn't you just do a psy or communication BA?
RE: Second degree? - mysonx3 - 11-20-2018
For what it's worth, the BA in Psychology is completely test/alt-credit friendly, so might be a better choice for a second Area of Study than Lib Studies
RE: Second degree? - davewill - 11-20-2018
(11-20-2018, 11:54 AM)pws Wrote: ...Any other requirements/points for second degrees that I might be missing?
- The TESU AOS guidelines say you need 18 credits from the categories listed, and 12 LS credits. With the 24 credit requirement for a second degree, how would this work out—would it be 16 from the categories listed and 10 LS credits, or 12 non-LS and 12 LS?
- Would I need to complete the Liberal Studies Capstone?
- Would a BA in English and a BALS be possible (point 2 in the TESU email)?
- There are different sources on the forum saying you wouldn't be required to pay the Residency Waiver Fee if for example you complete the second degree in the same year (email isn't reliable according the the thread the post is in)—has this been confirmed since the past few years?
You have to meet the all requirements for both degrees. There's no guaranty that new 24 credits will be enough, just that at least 24 of the credits must be new. I would expect they could appear anywhere in the AOS. But that's moot...if you're doing two BAs at the same time, it's not a second degree, it's a second AOS. The rules are different. The 24 credit thing does not come into play, instead you have to meet both AOS and can't have more than 9 credits of overlap in the AOS.
RE: Second degree? - zzzz24 - 11-20-2018
Personally, I would have your foreign college transcripts evaluated and sent to TESU first.
You really need to see your academic evaluation first and go from there.
RE: Second degree? - pws - 11-20-2018
(11-20-2018, 12:19 PM)jsh1138 Wrote: if you have alot of psy and communication credits, why wouldn't you just do a psy or communication BA?
There are only some Psychology courses, and some Communication courses, that interest/are of use for me.
(11-20-2018, 12:30 PM)zzzz24 Wrote: Personally, I would have your foreign college transcripts evaluated and sent to TESU first.
You really need to see your academic evaluation first and go from there.
It's in the process; should be completed soon.
(11-20-2018, 12:25 PM)davewill Wrote: You have to meet the all requirements for both degrees. There's no guaranty that new 24 credits will be enough, just that at least 24 of the credits must be new. I would expect they could appear anywhere in the AOS. But that's moot
Where can I find the requirements (if I were to do the BALS after having complete the BA in English)? Are they the 'Learning Outcomes' and the list of AOS categories from the TESU BALS page?