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What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - Pelican - 01-03-2018
I am working on my TESU BA in History degree plan. The most difficult part is finding a course fitting the Historical Methods/Historiography requirement. Searching the forums, I've found these sources:
- FHSU, HIST 379 - Historical Methods, approx. $669 (only available in the Fall semester).
- APU, HIST300 - Research Methods in History, approx. $860.
I checked every public university in my state, for in-state tuition rates, schools in Nevada, few couple of other schools I know have affordable out-of-state tuition, but I could find no on-line Historical Methods course.
Does anyone know the most affordable source of this credit?
RE: What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - Life Long Learning - 01-03-2018
(01-03-2018, 10:47 AM)Pelican Wrote: I am working on my TESU BA in History degree plan. The most difficult part is finding a course fitting the Historical Methods/Historiography requirement. Searching the forums, I've found these sources:
BYU seems to have some independent study classes that fall under Historiography, such as HIST 350: British Family, Local and Social History Research (approx. $564), but since that is a narrow topic, I don't know if that would transfer in to meet the requirement.
- FHSU, HIST 379 - Historical Methods, approx. $669 (only available in the Fall semester).
- APU, HIST300 - Research Methods in History, approx. $860.
I checked every public university in my state, for in-state tuition rates, schools in Nevada, few couple of other schools I know have affordable out-of-state tuition, but I could find no on-line Historical Methods course.
Does anyone know the most affordable source of this credit?
Many years ago I took Research Methods in Military Studies from AMU/APU. Not sure this would count.
RE: What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - npk32 - 01-10-2018
(01-03-2018, 10:47 AM)Pelican Wrote: I am working on my TESU BA in History degree plan. The most difficult part is finding a course fitting the Historical Methods/Historiography requirement. Searching the forums, I've found these sources:
BYU seems to have some independent study classes that fall under Historiography, such as HIST 350: British Family, Local and Social History Research (approx. $564), but since that is a narrow topic, I don't know if that would transfer in to meet the requirement.
- FHSU, HIST 379 - Historical Methods, approx. $669 (only available in the Fall semester).
- APU, HIST300 - Research Methods in History, approx. $860.
I checked every public university in my state, for in-state tuition rates, schools in Nevada, few couple of other schools I know have affordable out-of-state tuition, but I could find no on-line Historical Methods course.
Does anyone know the most affordable source of this credit?
FHSU was indeed the cheapest Historical Methods course I could find.
RE: What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - jamshid666 - 01-10-2018
I don't know what your timeline is, but Study.com recently created this course: https://study.com/academy/course/history-301-historiography-historical-methods.html. Since it was recently created, I assume they will eventually work towards ACE/NCCRS credit for it.
RE: What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - Pelican - 01-10-2018
(01-10-2018, 09:02 PM)jamshid666 Wrote: I don't know what your timeline is, but Study.com recently created this course: https://study.com/academy/course/history-301-historiography-historical-methods.html. Since it was recently created, I assume they will eventually work towards ACE/NCCRS credit for it.
Does anyone know how long it takes for new courses to become approved by ACE?
RE: What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - dfrecore - 01-11-2018
(01-10-2018, 10:36 PM)Pelican Wrote:(01-10-2018, 09:02 PM)jamshid666 Wrote: I don't know what your timeline is, but Study.com recently created this course: https://study.com/academy/course/history-301-historiography-historical-methods.html. Since it was recently created, I assume they will eventually work towards ACE/NCCRS credit for it.
Does anyone know how long it takes for new courses to become approved by ACE?
No, and even Study.com wouldn't be able to tell you. You can ask if they're in the process, but just because they have a course available doesn't mean they've even submitted it to ACE. But I think even then, they won't commit - because it might not get approved, or it might take a long time.
RE: What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - jamshid666 - 01-11-2018
Here's a overview of what ACE does to evaluate courses for credit: http://www.acenet.edu/news-room/Pages/Employer-Guide-Course-Evaluations.aspx. Based on the overview, I'd say Study.com can't commit because they have no idea how long it will take ACE to perform the evaluation. I'm guessing, but since ACE evaluates courses for hundreds of organizations, I'm sure they perform these evaluations on a first-come, first-serve basis, and they most likely have to wait for a certain team of SMEs to be available based on the knowledge domain of the course being evaluated. And based on the overview, they don't just look at the course that Study.com submitted, they also have to look at how comparable courses are taught at traditional B&M colleges to determine if the same level of knowledge is covered to award it those credits. I'm sure there is quite a bit of back and forth between Study.com and ACE during the evaluation process, where ACE denies credit based on the course not covering "Topic X" so Study.com has to add additional detail and resubmit. I'm basing this on the observation that every day I check the Study.com homepage and scroll down to recently updated courses. The only reason to update a course is that either it is a new course or they are adding to an existing course to meet the deficiencies identified in the evaluation. Of course, this is all based on personal theory, I could be totally off base. Since I'm not an educator, take my advice and insight with a lot of salt. Since the Study.com team watches this board, perhaps they could give us more insight on how the evaluation process works from their point of view and let me know if I'm a clueless wanker or not.
RE: What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - jsh1138 - 01-15-2018
I'm currently doing a History BA at TESU and i'm just taking this course at TESU itself. I couldn't find a decent alternative and I really looked. I think COSC offers it too but as of right now I think you might be stuck doing it and the capstone the hard way
RE: What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - dfrecore - 01-16-2018
(01-15-2018, 11:22 PM)jsh1138 Wrote: I'm currently doing a History BA at TESU and i'm just taking this course at TESU itself. I couldn't find a decent alternative and I really looked. I think COSC offers it too but as of right now I think you might be stuck doing it and the capstone the hard way
2 decent alternatives were listed in the first post.
RE: What is the cheapest Historical Methods/Historiography course? - jsh1138 - 01-16-2018
2 alternatives were listed, yes. one of them is only available once per year, which didn't fit my schedule. Other things enter into play, like financial aid & etc. Considerations like that are the difference between "an alternative" and "a decent alternative". Yes, its subjective and your mileage may vary