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If you were going to be a training manager - icampy - 12-19-2017
Hey yall. I have a question. If you were going to take a position as a training manager (Not in 1 specific field, but leading training programs in general working with different departments to help form programs), what would you pursue to help gain that position? I was thinking adding a HR certificate to my in-progress GM degree might help? Would the Industrial Psychology degree at Patten he worth pursuing? Would a MBA help? Is there anything else online that might help work with adult learners? Basically it would be helping all the departments get training programs set up and giving training. It's something I might like...the more I get involved with safety at work, the more I realize I enjoy teaching and training, and it comes naturally..I like helping.
If this is a dumb idea, I can take the criticism ;-)
Thanks.
RE: If you were going to be a training manager - bjcheung77 - 12-19-2017
That's a crazy idea! haha, just kidding... I was in your shoes before. There are three things you should work on:
1) Finishing the Degree - you can add a certificate in HR if you wish OR you can have a double concentration, AOS in both GM/HR. Strangely, you need the same amount of 18 credits for the certificate and second AOS, but courses are different! This is true for all other certificates and AOS's, find the one that's "geared for you" or cheaper/easier/faster.
2) Certification - I would start off small, such as getting a Corporate Trainer Certification from MSI, they have other certs I've taken (such as Six Sigma, they're accredited by IASSC not ASQ). MSI https://www.msicertified.com/about-us.html and MSI Certs https://www.msicertified.com/certifications.html
If you want to also venture into TESOL, you can get an online TESOL Advanced certificate or a TESOL Foundation certificate (combination of Advanced + Business). The one I recommend provides ACE credit and it's cheaper than most others I've found! http://www.americantesol.com/american-tesol-institute.html
3) Experience - I would take the time to learn the "corporate trainer" role while you're getting the degree/certs done, once complete, you'll have more experience and recognition under your belt. Then you should apply for the Corporate Training Manager role. You may want to do that while getting your MBA.
RE: If you were going to be a training manager - DavidHume - 12-19-2017
Something like https://extension.ucsd.edu/courses-and-programs/teaching-adult-learners would be what my former department looked for in applicants for the educator positions. Minimum of a course on instructional techniques for corporate environments.
RE: If you were going to be a training manager - dfrecore - 12-19-2017
I don't think Industrial Psych would be what you need. Instead, something in HR (since that's where a lot of training comes from) as well as some courses in the education area. I like what DavidHume linked to, that looks interesting and useful.
RE: If you were going to be a training manager - davewill - 12-19-2017
This may be too specific, but if you're particularly interested in workplace safety training there's OSHA specific training:
http://osha.ucsd.edu/index.cfm?vAction=saCourses3&city=San%20Diego&cmp=KNC-OSHA-osha-training-sd
Scroll down to the trainer courses. I have no idea if anyone offers this sort of thing online.
RE: If you were going to be a training manager - icampy - 12-19-2017
Thanks for the great info, guys (and gals). So it sounds like adding a HR cert or double major would be a good idea. Time to go my "walkingstick". Maybe find some education courses to add to my general electives (still have 3 I need to fill, but was leaving them for last).
I think I will do that MSI cert to start out, and then possibly try to work my way into that position (it's not even a position at this point in time, it could be a year from now or more). I will be taking on safety-type training roles before then (and already do on a small scale), so that should help. I am trying to weasel my way into as many places as I can to gain experience in safety and training in general.
Anyways, thanks for opening my eyes to some of this stuff. That UC SD looks interesting if it looks like I will need an extra boost, or a higher-level training position is something I want to pursue. Soon as I get this degree and any other TESU stuff knocked out, I think I will do that MSI. Thanks again, guys. This forum is so great.
It looks like the "double major" would be easier....in the cert, I need 3 specific courses I have never seen before. In the degree, I need "organizational theory and development" (or something like that) and 2 random HR electives (they counted project management, so maybe other management courses would work).
RE: If you were going to be a training manager - SDO - 12-19-2017
I thought a student could not get a double concentration if one of them was General Management.
RE: If you were going to be a training manager - icampy - 12-19-2017
I read, maybe 6 months ago, that they changed that. I believe someone had even posted here that did that. I was thinking was a 2017 change. But, I could be imagining things.
RE: If you were going to be a training manager - sanantone - 12-19-2017
(12-19-2017, 03:23 PM)SDO Wrote: I thought a student could not get a double concentration if one of them was General Management.
(12-19-2017, 03:39 PM)icampy Wrote: I read, maybe 6 months ago, that they changed that. I believe someone had even posted here that did that. I was thinking was a 2017 change. But, I could be imagining things.
It's been changed. There are at least one or two people here pursuing a double concentration in general management and another AOS.
RE: If you were going to be a training manager - dfrecore - 12-19-2017
Education courses (with an EDU prefix) are not Gen Ed's, they are Free Electives. But it certainly can't hurt to have them on your transcript.
If you do the HR concentration, you can also do the General Management concentration, but honestly, I'm not sure why you would do that. I think a more specific concentration is more useful (or even 2 concentrations). But GM is not that useful if you know what you want to do.