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BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - RRMIKE - 10-09-2017
Hey Guys,
I just need to clarify something real quick before I register for my capstone this week.
I need 18 CIS credit, 12 of them has to be upper level
I am currently taking Information System analyst and design at CSU Global
I've completed
TEEX Cybersecurity 201 (2 credits)
TEEX Cybersecurity 301 (2 credits)
ED4CREDIT Managing Information Systems (3 credits)
Once I complete the Info System Analyst & Design (3 credit)
I'll complete 10 of the require 12 upper level credit, I currently have 133 credits from previous classes in IT that did not fit into this degree, any ideas if they will waive it, or it's not even worth asking.
I have two choice, Networking TECEP or Cloud Computing from CSU global, I really like CSU global style and don't mind the $250.
Does anyone know if they'll consider waiving the 2 credits, and let me be since I'll be graduating with close to about 140 credits (most IT class but consider lower level)
What would you guys recommend in my case to do?
I'm trying to make it for March 2018 graduation.
RE: BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - bjcheung77 - 10-09-2017
I would suggest taking the TECEP and also the CSU global, as they will NOT waive anything in the AOS.
As long as you have a "course" that takes over the course credits missing and it is in the same category.
You can ask them, but highly unlikely they will wave it. I know they will waive general education mainly.
For example in Natural Science, instead of taking two Comp Science courses, you take a Bio and a Chem.
TESU BSBA CIS LINK: http://www.tesu.edu/business/bsba/Computer-Information-Systems.cfm
The 12 elective credits need to come from 4 of the following courses, PICK 4 courses you can transfer in at UL.
Required Subjects - 6
Programming Language
Systems Analysis and Design
Electives - 12
Data Structures
Operating Systems
System Development Methodology OR Systems Analysis and Design II
Additional Programming Language*
Application System Development
Basic Design Theory and Decision Making Techniques
Computer Logic and Organization
Computer Management
Client Server and Net-Centric Computing
Computer and Information Technology
Database Management
Information Systems Administration
Job Control Language Systems
Management Information Systems
Network Architectures
Networking Principles (LAN/WAN/Internet)
Problem Analysis and Solutions
Quantitative Analysis and Information Systems
Social Aspects of Information Technology
RE: BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - RRMIKE - 10-09-2017
Well I email them and they said the TEEX will come in as Upper level course, they are only 2 credit each.
Info System Analyst and Design from CSU (3 credits) and in progress
CSC-300 Managing Information System from ed4credit (3 Credits) COMPLETED
CyberSecurity 301 (2 credits) COMPLETED
CyberSecurity 201 (2 credits) COMPLETED
So I need to be both the network tecept and Cloud computing from CSU or just one?
RE: BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - bjcheung77 - 10-09-2017
RRMike, I mentioned to take the TECEP and also the CSU global.
You need 18 credits, 6 required and 12 electives.
Your completed and in progress courses are only 10 credits.
Adding the TECEP and the CSU Global, you need 1 more course.
I would ask them to see if any of the Saylor CompSci/CIS courses can be used.
I would ask about the Saylor CS302: Software Engineering option as your final course.
That will bring you to 19 credits and it will be more than the 18 and you'll have over 141 credits total!
RE: BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - RRMIKE - 10-09-2017
Hey sorry
I was so focused on these, I forget to mention I got credit for a previous community colleges I took, it came in as CAP-299 and i already got credit for the programming that's required.
So those are 6 credits I didn't mention before.
RE: BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - bjcheung77 - 10-09-2017
Final answer, you still need BOTH TECEP and the CSU global unless you can find one or two courses to change with.
The reason is that CAP-299 doesn't fit in the AOS, plus your programming course negates the "extra course" I mentioned.
So, to be less confusing and to Recap what I said. Your Cap-299 will NOT be in the AOS
Required 6 credits
Programming Language - Completed at CC 3 credits
Info System Analyst and Design from CSU (3 credits) and in progress
Elective 12 credits - You do NOT need to take the Saylor course I mentioned
CSC-300 Managing Information System from ed4credit (3 Credits) COMPLETED
CyberSecurity 301 (2 credits) COMPLETED
CyberSecurity 201 (2 credits) COMPLETED
TECEP - 3 credits - NEED
CSU Global - 3 credits - NEED
RE: BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - RRMIKE - 10-09-2017
I don't think we are on the same page here, below is a snapshot of my transcript for my CIS section, it does require 18 credits with 12 being upper
Course not showing here that is not listed on transcript ed4credit (Managing Information System) TEEX (Cybersecurity 201 & 301)
Group 1: Managing Information Systems will fill this in. (3 UL)
Group 2: CMP-354 (I"m consider taking this TECEP)
Group 3: Cybersecurity 201 & or 301 (4 UL)
Group 4: I have no clue if they miss that or that's actually Group 5
Group 5: Completed as a lower level credit already
Information System Analyst & Design (3 UL - In progress)
So my plan is I'll either have to take CMP-354 or Cloud Computing from CSU, I don't need to take both correct?
RE: BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - bjcheung77 - 10-09-2017
Wow, you're lucky... you have one course to choose from - TECEP vs CSU Global
Here's another way of looking at this. Your CAP 299 actually did go into the AOS!
You only have 1 field left in your screenshot. That means you need 1 final course.
A) Programming 3
B) SystsAnaly/DDsgn 3
C) CIS Electives 12 by group
1) Missing elective - 3 (from your post, it should be MIS Ed4Credit)
2) CMP-354 TECEP - 3 (you're going to take this OR #3)
3) CIS 499 - Cloud Computing - 3 (you're going to take this OR #2)
4) CAP 299 - 3 credits
5) TEEX - 4 (extra credits - to replace course in #2 or #3)
You have 4 credits that are left over from your TEEX courses
You need to ask if you can take these in place of TECEP or the CSU Global
In conclusion, you are right, you need TECEP OR the CSU Global
I would prepare for the TECEP as it's probably cheaper/easier/faster than CSU.
Note: I don't believe they still took the CAP courses for CIS AOS
I recall they don't take CAP courses, that may be for Comp Science though.
RE: BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - RRMIKE - 10-09-2017
Excellent, thank you. I’ll get in them phone this week.
RE: BSBA-CIS Upper Level Question - dfrecore - 10-09-2017
I would take whatever will be easiest for you (it will be different for everyone).
The Saylor Computer Comm & Networks course was terrible, my husband failed it because of many wrong answers (he works in IT and knows networking well, he was pretty annoyed at the exam). The TECEP would be a better choice there.
If you like CSU-Global, any of those exams would be a good choice as well - although it couldn't hurt to try the Software Engineering Saylor exam for $25 if you wanted to before signing up for CSU-G (which I think starts the 1st of the month, so you're going to have to wait to take it anyway).