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Most Excelsior students online from Midnight to 2am per Excelsior College - Life Long Learning - 10-08-2017
Most Excelsior students online from Midnight to 2am per Excelsior College. Adult night owl degrees!
Interesting fact stated by President Baldwin.
Excelsior College President Jim Baldwin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYPn0vOIBK4
Also said it costs them about $200,000 to create a online courses.
RE: Most Excelsior students online from Midnight to 2am per Excelsior College - sanantone - 10-08-2017
This is what I tried to explain on why some schools charge distance learning fees. They're recovering the high cost of developing online courses.
RE: Most Excelsior students online from Midnight to 2am per Excelsior College - bjcheung77 - 10-08-2017
Just think about all that money they rake in....
If one student takes an online course from them directly, it's $1000-1500/course.
If you have just 200 students, that course is paid for already.
Link: http://cpd.excelsior.edu/
Link: https://careertraining.ed2go.com/excelsiorcpd/
Their CPD courses are offered by Ed2Go.com.
They know it's a money maker and that's their bottom line...
Wait until you get to their "professional" or "graduate" degrees when a course can go up to $2500.
Note: This is just Excelsior, think of "other more expensive" schools - wow, a cash cow.
RE: Most Excelsior students online from Midnight to 2am per Excelsior College - sanantone - 10-08-2017
Excelsior is 100% online. They only offer online courses, so they have to spend the money to develop them. Excelsior is expensive compared to public schools that are subsidized by tax dollars, but their tuition is below average for private, non-profits and around the average for for-profits. Once you add grants and scholarships, I don't know where Excelsior falls, but they do have their own scholarships and some decent, partner discounts. And, if you're in the military, the discount is substantial.
RE: Most Excelsior students online from Midnight to 2am per Excelsior College - bluebooger - 10-08-2017
(10-08-2017, 06:27 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: ...
Also said it costs them about $200,000 to create a online courses.
BS
there are tons of courses on edx, udemy, udacity and coursera
granted, they aren't accredited
but these courses are free
https://www.udacity.com/course/intro-to-computer-science--cs101
https://www.udacity.com/course/intro-to-data-analysis--ud170
and this is on sale for $15 every other week
https://www.udemy.com/unitycourse/
and this guy posted all his videos for free
http://patrickjmt.com/
you could literally use his videos to make any math course, and I bet you could hire him for 75k
there is no way it costs 200k to accredit a single course and hire a teacher to monitor a forum
I've taken a couple of excelsior online courses
90% of the course requires no interaction with the teacher
everything is written on the web page
you read the page and follow the instructions
RE: Most Excelsior students online from Midnight to 2am per Excelsior College - sanantone - 10-08-2017
(10-08-2017, 09:30 PM)bluebooger Wrote:(10-08-2017, 06:27 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: ...
Also said it costs them about $200,000 to create a online courses.
BS
there are tons of courses on edx, udemy, udacity and coursera
granted, they aren't accredited
but these courses are free
https://www.udacity.com/course/intro-to-computer-science--cs101
https://www.udacity.com/course/intro-to-data-analysis--ud170
and this is on sale for $15 every other week
https://www.udemy.com/unitycourse/
and this guy posted all his videos for free
http://patrickjmt.com/
you could literally use his videos to make any math course, and I bet you could hire him for 75k
there is no way it costs 200k to accredit a single course and hire a teacher to monitor a forum
I've taken a couple of excelsior online courses
90% of the course requires no interaction with the teacher
everything is written on the web page
you read the page and follow the instructions
MOOCs neither have to meet accreditation standards nor do they have to be reviewed. Plus, most MOOCs are from courses that have already been designed. I don't know if it really costs Excelsior $200k to hire and instructional designer, pay fees to their accreditor, an get the course put on to its LMS, but comparing an accredited school to Udemy is a bit of a stretch.
I looked to the cost of getting a course evaluated by ACE or NCCRS, and it's several thousand dollars.