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Math classes that are below calculus? - Ideas - 03-30-2017
I have credit for the AP Calculus AB. I know that schools usually won't let someone take an easier course after a harder course. Does this apply to my AP exam credit too? i.e. I can't take most of the math classes at Shmoop or Aleks?
And how do I know what counts as a lower course? Some are obvious, but others I'm wondering about, like Trigonometry.
But, I am not too excited for a harder math class anyway. I also personally find Statistics hard. I am trying to do it through Aleks.
Math classes that are below calculus? - cookderosa - 03-30-2017
Ideas Wrote:I have credit for the AP Calculus AB. I know that schools usually won't let someone take an easier course after a harder course. Does this apply to my AP exam credit too? i.e. I can't take most of the math classes at Shmoop or Aleks?
And how do I know what counts as a lower course? Some are obvious, but others I'm wondering about, like Trigonometry.
But, I am not too excited for a harder math class anyway. I also personally find Statistics hard. I am trying to do it through Aleks.
SOME schools won't let you go back "down" in maths, but that's a tiny percentage of schools. If you're looking at ALEKS and Shmoop, you're looking at colleges that accept ACE credit, and in that case, none of them care. If you're looking at prestigious schools, then no, you probably won't get to use College Algebra, but it doesn't matter because they won't accept ACE credit anyway. (ALEKS is set to expire tomorrow- double check for their renewal before pursuing)
Basic Sequence
College Math (CLEP) / Math for Liberal Arts (DSST)
Intermediate Algebra (ALEKS)
College Algebra (ALEKS, CLEP)
Trig / PreCalc / College Algebra with PreCalc (various)
Calculus AB/BC (Advanced Placement, CLEP)
Also at any level: Statistics (Advanced Placement, DSST)
IF it were me AND I had Calc credit, you bet without question I'd go back and get EVER. SINGLE. MATH. available to me. Low hanging fruit!
Math classes that are below calculus? - dfrecore - 03-30-2017
cookderosa Wrote:Basic Sequence
College Math (CLEP) / Math for Liberal Arts (DSST)
Intermediate Algebra (ALEKS)
College Algebra (ALEKS, CLEP)
Trig / PreCalc / College Algebra with PreCalc (various)
Calculus AB/BC (Advanced Placement, CLEP)
Also at any level: Statistics (Advanced Placement, DSST)
IF it were me AND I had Calc credit, you bet without question I'd go back and get EVER. SINGLE. MATH. available to me. Low hanging fruit!
I agree, if you have a lot of open space on your degree plan (Gen Ed electives and free electives).
I would sign up for ALEKS today and take Beginning Algebra, Intermediate Algebra, & Precalc if you could finish them all before tomorrow at midnight. Seriously. Add Stats to that as well. (Note-Beginning Algebra is not accepted at TESU, but it is at COSC).
Here are some options that I can think of off the top of my head that will work at TESU (their course equiv.'s are here):
MAT-102/103 College Math - CLEP (6cr)
MAT-105 Applied Liberal Arts Math - TECEP
MAT-110 Finite Math - Shmoop (not sure if this is the course number)
MAT-119 Math for Business - Davar OR Quantitative Literacy - Study.com
MAT-260 Geometry - Study.com or Shmoop (not sure if this is the course number at Shmoop)
MAT-361 College Geometry - SecularCourses.com (Coopersmith) - not 100% sure if this is the course number
Math classes that are below calculus? - bluebooger - 03-30-2017
I did the AP psychology for Excelsior (way back when it was a thing)
and afterwards they wouldn't accept CLEP Educational Psychology because they said it duplicated what was on the AP
I would be hugely shocked if anybody gave you credit for Beginning Algebra, Intermediate Algebra, & Precalc after passing the AP calc
so I think you should double check with your school
Math classes that are below calculus? - dfrecore - 03-30-2017
bluebooger Wrote:I did the AP psychology for Excelsior (way back when it was a thing)
and afterwards they wouldn't accept CLEP Educational Psychology because they said it duplicated what was on the AP
I would be hugely shocked if anybody gave you credit for Beginning Algebra, Intermediate Algebra, & Precalc after passing the AP calc
so I think you should double check with your school
I was assuming the Big 3 here, not just any school.
I agree, if it's not one of the Big 3, then check first.
Math classes that are below calculus? - Ideas - 03-30-2017
cookderosa Wrote:IF it were me AND I had Calc credit, you bet without question I'd go back and get EVER. SINGLE. MATH. available to me. Low hanging fruit!
Thank you. Please see my questions below.
dfrecore Wrote:I would sign up for ALEKS today and take Beginning Algebra, Intermediate Algebra, & Precalc if you could finish them all before tomorrow at midnight. Seriously. Add Stats to that as well
Thank you.
Can you tell me if this "waters down" my transcript? I mean, if a grad school saw these classes, wouldn't they believe I was scared of taking the more advanced math classes? Or they would see that my calculus credit was so old, and then I started up with Beginning Algebra? I may still follow some kind of hard science path where they look that. I feel they would look at it in other paths too.
If I ended up not needing the math credits, would they be left off my transcript?
I am not sure yet if I'll do a Big 3 school, but I do want to grab these very cheap credits. I've already paid for Aleks too.
Math classes that are below calculus? - TrailRunr - 03-30-2017
Take ALEKS tonight for precalc, college algebra, and intermediate algebra with a helper like mathway. It won't take you long. Piece of cake.
If you enroll in TESU, your easy TECEP is Applied Liberal Arts Math. Guaranteed pass. No studying necessary.
Math will fill in a lot of GE spots and free electives if you still have room. If you need Calc AB in your major, it won't be available anymore for GE.
Credits on a TESU transcript from ACE/CLEP/DSST/AP are not dated. Only actual TESU courses and TECEPs are dated. Nobody will know if you took ALEKS intermediate algebra tonight or 20 years ago. Just do it.
Math classes that are below calculus? - Ideas - 03-30-2017
TrailRunr Wrote:Nobody will know if you took ALEKS intermediate algebra tonight or 20 years ago. Just do it.
Great. Thanks! I will definitely do Intermediate/College/Precalc and hopefully I can also fit in Trig
Do you think I should skip Beginning Algebra because of the "watering down" effect? I believe I already have many elective credits. Apparently TESU does not take Beginning Algebra and COSC does. I'm not sure if my goal is TESU, COSC, or a different school yet.
Math classes that are below calculus? - TrailRunr - 03-30-2017
Do elementary algebra last. Precalc and trig will duplicate at TESU. So choose whichever one seems easier to you.
TESU won't take elementary algebra. They will put it down as developmental in your eval. On your transcript, it won't show up at all. On the day you graduate, your eval is thrown away as well and no longer accessible. So any record of elementary algebra will be lost from TESU.
Although some disagree with me, IMHO it's safe to switch between ALEKS courses without waiting to get ACE credit. ALEKS will save your score in previous courses even though it tells you your progress will be lost once you switch. Finish each initial assessment with 70+%. Then switch. Take next course's initial assessment with 70+%. Rinse and repeat.
Math classes that are below calculus? - Ideas - 03-30-2017
TrailRunr Wrote:Although some disagree with me, IMHO it's safe to switch between ALEKS courses without waiting to get ACE credit.
Thank you very much for your advice!