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Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - Toastmaster - 08-07-2016
Hi folks! I need help really mapping out the rest of my Associates Degree in Business. After reading multiple threads, and looking at other folk's questions, I've come to determine that it would behoove me to at least *ask* for an outside perspective on my Degree plan. :-)
My basic questions revolve around the following: What classes do I take to finish? And which school is cheaper between Excelsior and TESU? (I know the *general* answers to those questions, but, on the advice of another forum member, I perhaps should go deeper if I'm really serious about this, and I am.)
TL;DR: 1. where can I get a quick and cheap Natural Science class? 2. Where can I get Business Communications, Intro to Business Law, Principles of Marketing, cheaply and quickly? I hear SL's Business Law class is a pain, is the CLEP version better? 3. Is TOR College credits still the cheapest place to get the Information Lit class?
Full Questions/Disclosure:
I am currently enrolled in Excelsior College (via POAG) but considering finishing with TESU depending upon ease and speed, not cost (though cost is a consideration if Excelsior's price become unreasonable. Unreasonable to me is $750 or more)
I have the current Credits:
Community College:
3cr College Success Skills
3cr General Psychology
4.5cr Spanish 1
3cr English 101
4cr Accounting 1
4cr Accounting 2
3cr Computer Skills (the computer class all degrees seem to ask for)
The Institutes:
2cr Ethics
Sophia:
3cr Project Mangement
Straighterline:
3cr Principles of Management
3cr Survery of World History
3cr MacroEconomics
3cr MicroEconomics
Total: 35.5
Need: 24.5 (Approximately 8 classes)
Current Degree Requirements Left/Needed: Excelsior
Natural Science and Math: PreCalculus or Calculus, Statistics and one Course in Natural Science
First detailed question - I plan to use Aleks for PreCalc and Statistics. But where can I get a quick Natural Science class?
Business Component: Business Communications, Intro to Business Law, Principles of Marketing, Capstone
Second detailed question - Where can I take the above classes cheaply and quickly? I hear SL's Business Law class is a pain, is the CLEP version better?
Additional Credit Component: Any Collegiate Level Study, Includes Information Lit, 6cr total
Here, I plan to use College Success Skills and the Project Management Course for the majority, but for Information Literacy, I plan to use TOR College credits. Is TOR still the cheapest?
Thank you for your help!
Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - Toastmaster - 08-07-2016
Okay, after looking at TESU's Associates Degree in Business Requirements, it looks like I may be better off, possibly, sticking with Excelsior, What do you guys and gals think?
TESU Associate in Science in Business Administration (ASBA) Credit Distribution
Subject Area / Category Credits
I. General Education Requirements 39
A. Intellectual and Practical Skills 15
Written Communication
(6)
Oral Communication
(3)
Quantitative Literacy
(3)
Information Literacy
(3)
B. Civic and Global Learning 9
Diversity
(3)
Ethics
(3)
Civic Engagement
(3)
C. Knowledge of Human Cultures 9
D. Understanding the Physical and Natural World 3
E. Mathematics 3
II. Management Core 18 total
A. Financial Accounting 3
B. Managerial Accounting 3
C. Business Law 3
D. Principles of Management 3
E. Computer Concepts and Applications/Introduction to Computers/CIS 3
F. Introduction to Marketing 3
III. Electives 3 total
Total 60cr
Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - bjcheung77 - 08-07-2016
The cheapest and easiest actually would be the COSC Associates of Science. You can have ~20 roughly made of FEMA credits.
If you are going to be moving to a Bachelors, you can transfer them all into the BSBA degree COSC has and ladder up from it...
The alternative option would be to use the Excelsior and Sophia.org 20% off option, you just need 2 courses from Sophia.org
Check it out in the previous threads about that option...
Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - dfrecore - 08-07-2016
I can tell you what you would need at TESU, because I know that best.
Cornerstone
English Comp II
Oral Communication
Any 2 math courses (nothing specific for the ASBA)
Info Lit (A&I Lit, World Religions, Tech Writing)
Diversity (Sociology, Anthropology,
American Government
Any Science or Computer Science course (not sure which ones won't duplicate what you already have)
Business Law
Marketing
The main issue with the ASBA (in my opinion) is that stupid $2000 residency waiver. It may be something that's worth it for the bachelor's degree there, but it definitely is a hard pill to swallow for an associates.
I show that if you averaged $100/course for everything except that you used ALEKS math for $20/course, it would cost $3500 to get the ASBA. You can compare these to the COSC and EC AA degrees yourself.
Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - dfrecore - 08-07-2016
Toastmaster Wrote:TL;DR: 1. where can I get a quick and cheap Natural Science class? 2. Where can I get Business Communications, Intro to Business Law, Principles of Marketing, cheaply and quickly? I hear SL's Business Law class is a pain, is the CLEP version better? 3. Is TOR College credits still the cheapest place to get the Information Lit class?
Current Degree Requirements Left/Needed: Excelsior
Natural Science and Math: PreCalculus or Calculus, Statistics and one Course in Natural Science
First detailed question - I plan to use Aleks for PreCalc and Statistics. But where can I get a quick Natural Science class?
Business Component: Business Communications, Intro to Business Law, Principles of Marketing, Capstone
Thank you for your help!
Here are where you can take courses/exams for less than $150:
Business Comm - Saylor, TECEP, SL
Business Law - Saylor, CLEP, SL, JumpCourse, Study.com,
Marketing - Saylor, CLEP, Study.com, TCC
Natural Science is basically any science course/exam you can find (Bio, Chem, Earth Sci, Anatomy, etc.). Saylor, CLEP, DSST, SL, Study.com, TCC
Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - Toastmaster - 08-08-2016
dfrecore Wrote:Here are where you can take courses/exams for less than $150:
Business Comm - Saylor, TECEP, SL
Business Law - Saylor, CLEP, SL, JumpCourse, Study.com,
Marketing - Saylor, CLEP, Study.com, TCC
Natural Science is basically any science course/exam you can find (Bio, Chem, Earth Sci, Anatomy, etc.). Saylor, CLEP, DSST, SL, Study.com, TCC
Thank you so much!!!!!!
Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - Toastmaster - 08-08-2016
dfrecore Wrote:I can tell you what you would need at TESU, because I know that best.
Cornerstone
English Comp II
Oral Communication
Any 2 math courses (nothing specific for the ASBA)
Info Lit (A&I Lit, World Religions, Tech Writing)
Diversity (Sociology, Anthropology,
American Government
Any Science or Computer Science course (not sure which ones won't duplicate what you already have)
Business Law
Marketing
The main issue with the ASBA (in my opinion) is that stupid $2000 residency waiver. It may be something that's worth it for the bachelor's degree there, but it definitely is a hard pill to swallow for an associates.
I show that if you averaged $100/course for everything except that you used ALEKS math for $20/course, it would cost $3500 to get the ASBA. You can compare these to the COSC and EC AA degrees yourself.
$3500? WOW!!!!!
I had planned on going to TESU to finish my Bachelor's, so there's that, but, looks like I'll stick with Excelsior for the Associates.
Next up I need to compare real costs, for me, of attaining the Bachelor in Business from TESU or Excelsior. I know the two programs don't exactly align, and I'm okay with taking a couple extra classes at TESU if it comes out overall cheaper than Excelsior.
Calculating that will be fun, lol!
Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - dfrecore - 08-08-2016
Toastmaster Wrote:$3500? [U] WOW!!!!!
I had planned on going to TESU to finish my Bachelor's, so, there's that, but, look like I'll stick with Excelsior for the Associates.
Next up I need to compare real costs, for me, of attaining the Bachelor in Business from TESU or Excelsior. I know the two programs don't exactly align, and I'm okay with take a couple extra classes at TESU if it comes out overall cheaper than Excelsior.
Calculating that will be fun, lol!
I guarantee it will be cheaper, because Excelsior's 6cr business capstone will cost $3,060.
Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - bjcheung77 - 08-08-2016
dfrecore Wrote:I guarantee it will be cheaper, because Excelsior's 6cr business capstone will cost $3,060.
I would also recommend TESU over Excelsior because of several reasons.
1) They just upgraded to University status 8 months ago, this is one of the reasons I chose TESU over Excelsior
2) The program courses are easier to transfer into TESU, especially courses at the upper level are easier to find than for Excelsior
3) Cost, generally it's cheaper at TESU over Excelsior for BSBA and other degrees that doesn't require taking a capstone course.
You can take the TECEP for the case of the BSBA; for ASBA/ASN, AS, AACJ and a few others, there are no capstone requirement.
If you're going to get a Bachelors, TESU is where you should get your ASBA and ladder to that BSBA (what I'm doing).
The reason is the residency waiver is for both, if you can finish them in the same year, there's only one residency fee/grad fee.
There's another notion that the residency fee is for the entire program during enrollment, but my reply I had was for 1 year.
My suggestion is to email them like the other user and see what they respond in reference to the residency fee...
For some reason, if you would like an AA/AS from another school, then go to TESU or Excelsior college.
Then your best bet is to go with an AS from COSC, it is now the cheapest AA/AS you can get.
This is because WVUP just bumped their residency requirement from 3 credits to 15 for their Associates!
Good luck, just go for it...
Associates Degree: Business, TESU + Excelsior Degree help - Toastmaster - 08-08-2016
Thank you both! You've been really helpful!!!! I appreciate you!