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Spanish credits - TESC - smrt - 12-05-2015
I'm thinking about going for Spanish next. Technically I'm a "native speaker" but I haven't used Spanish since I was 15, so I'm a wee bit rusty. What's the most forgiving way to get as many credits as possible from this knowledge? (By forgiving, I mean ability to retest, or have coursework carry a grade like you can with SL)
I'm looking at the TESC catalog and all I see is Elementary Spanish, but that doesn't make sense if they offer a BA in Spanish. They have a list of Foreign Language electives that I don't see in the catalog. Anybody know the scoop?
Spanish credits - TESC - swalke321 - 12-05-2015
A lot of the BA programs cannot be completed entirely through TESC courses. Some of the courses have to be transferred in. For the BA in Spanish most of the area of study courses would have to be taken at other colleges and transferred in. The electives that are listed would be taken at other colleges and transferred in.
Spanish credits - TESC - cookderosa - 12-05-2015
smrt Wrote:I'm thinking about going for Spanish next. Technically I'm a "native speaker" but I haven't used Spanish since I was 15, so I'm a wee bit rusty. What's the most forgiving way to get as many credits as possible from this knowledge? (By forgiving, I mean ability to retest, or have coursework carry a grade like you can with SL)
I'm looking at the TESC catalog and all I see is Elementary Spanish, but that doesn't make sense if they offer a BA in Spanish. They have a list of Foreign Language electives that I don't see in the catalog. Anybody know the scoop?
You can get BIG credit for speaking a foreign language, and it doesn't matter if it's your native language or not- anything other than English counts.
To study: http://www.duolingo.com it's amazing and game changing (like Khan Academy when it first came out) it's nearly identical to Rosetta Stone but free.
You won't be able to use two exams without duplicating credit, so choose 1 exam from this list and go with that. How you're tested, the format, whether or not you speak/listen/read/etc. varies with each exam so I'd pick one that works to your strengths.
All foreign language credits at TESC are humanities/liberal arts- so this is a HUGE chunk toward ANY degree at TESC.
CLEP: worth 3-9 credits based on your score. Cost is $80 plus proctor fee (about $20)
CLEP - College-Level Exam Program
https://clep.collegeboard.org/
NYU exam: worth 4-16 credits based on the test you choose. Cost is $120 up to $400.
*you should check with TESC, but I believe 6 of this comes in as lower level and 8 as upper level which is phenomenal*
TESC's policy NYU Foreign Language Proficiency
Learn about the exam: Testing
-this exam is not ACE evaluated but TESC accepts it. Other schools may not.
American Council on the Teaching of Foreign Languages Exam: worth 3 to 14 including upper level.
(this exam is ACE evaluated) I think the credit awarded is similar or the same as the NYU exam, but I don't have current cost information- so I can't say how the price compares.
http://www.languagetesting.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/ACE-ACTFL-Testing-Brochure.pdf
EDIT to add: you need 33 credits in Spanish if you want to earn a full BA from TESC in foreign language. That would be hard to do, because even with one of these huge credit exams, you're still talking about half a concentration- so you'd have to locate those courses on your own and transfer them to TESC. My suggestion is that you just use these credits to fill the humanities slot in whatever degree you seek. It will more than do that, and the overflow will be a general education elective - the best kind. If, however, someone can suggest a good source of Spanish courses that can round out this degree, that might be a more marketable way to approach this. I'll look too.
Spanish credits - TESC - cookderosa - 12-05-2015
wow- this looks like a real option if money is no object
These are all offered online, and you can collect a certificate as you progress. Out of state elearning students pay $213/credit <ouch>https://www.mesacc.edu/programs/detail/spanish-and-spanish-culture-ac
FLA240 Foreign Language Teaching Methods 3
GCU223 Geography of Latin America 3
HIS145 History of Mexico 3
MHL156 Music in Latin America and the Caribbean 3
SLC201 Introduction to Linguistics 3
SPA115 Beginning Spanish Conversation I 3
SPA116 Beginning Spanish Conversation II 3
SPA117 Health Care Spanish I 3
SPA118 Health Care Spanish II 3
SPA119 Spanish for Educational Settings I 3
SPA120 Spanish for Educational Settings II 3
SPA205 Spanish for Medical Interpretation I 3
SPA206 Spanish for Medical Interpretation II 3
SPA217 Spanish for Business Communication 4
SPA225 Intermediate Spanish Conversation I 3
SPA226 Intermediate Spanish Conversation II 3
SPA235 Advanced Spanish Conversation I 3
SPA236 Advanced Spanish Conversation II 3
SPA241 Spanish and Spanish-American Film I 3
SPA242 Spanish and Spanish-American Film II 3
SPA251 Spanish Civilization 3
SPA265 Advanced Spanish I 3
SPA266 Advanced Spanish II 3
SPA282++ Volunteerism for Spanish: A Service Learning Experience (any suffixed course) 1-3
SPA298++ Special Projects (any suffixed course) 1-3
SPH245 Hispanic Heritage in the Southwest 3
SPH298++ Special Projects (any suffixed course)1-3
Spanish credits - TESC - dfrecore - 12-06-2015
Many of these courses may duplicate Spanish exams, so you'd want to make sure that they were approved in writing before you took them.
Spanish credits - TESC - smrt - 12-06-2015
Thanks for all the info!
I don't think it matters if it gives a bunch of UL credits if I'm doing a BSBA in Marketing, does it?
I found another potential option - https://flats.byu.edu/ - which according to a few forum threads, TESC is likely to take. It's up to 12 lower level credits, but it's $50 as opposed to $400 for the 16cr NYU test - Which a forum search tells me is pretty tough. BYU is all multiple choice, the NYU test is straight-up writing.
Spanish credits - TESC - cookderosa - 12-06-2015
smrt Wrote:Thanks for all the info!
I don't think it matters if it gives a bunch of UL credits if I'm doing a BSBA in Marketing, does it?
I found another potential option - https://flats.byu.edu/ - which according to a few forum threads, TESC is likely to take. It's up to 12 lower level credits, but it's $50 as opposed to $400 for the 16cr NYU test - Which a forum search tells me is pretty tough. BYU is all multiple choice, the NYU test is straight-up writing.
in every degree, the only challenge real brick wall is upper level. In some degrees, that wall is huge. In others, not so much. That said, whether or not you need general education UL (specifically humanities/language UL) depends on the degree you pick.
Spanish credits - TESC - SweetSecret - 12-07-2015
cookderosa Wrote:To study: http://www.duolingo.com it's amazing and game changing (like Khan Academy when it first came out) it's nearly identical to Rosetta Stone but free.
I just took a look at that. Thank for posting, its a pretty great site! I know a lot of random words from growing up in a household where Spanish was spoken but not taught... so I think it would be helpful for me to be able to correctly structure sentences!
I've heard good things about Pimsleur (Learn a new Language | Pimsleur® Official Store | Pimsleur Method) too, which apparently is available through many libraries.
For anyone else who may be interested, check with your local library, as many offer free language learning services online, one of which is Pronunciator (Pronunciator | The world's largest language-learning service.).
Spanish credits - TESC - cookderosa - 12-07-2015
SweetSecret Wrote:I just took a look at that. Thank for posting, its a pretty great site! I know a lot of random words from growing up in a household where Spanish was spoken but not taught... so I think it would be helpful for me to be able to correctly structure sentences!
I've heard good things about Pimsleur (Learn a new Language | Pimsleur® Official Store | Pimsleur Method) too, which apparently is available through many libraries.
For anyone else who may be interested, check with your local library, as many offer free language learning services online, one of which is Pronunciator (Pronunciator | The world's largest language-learning service.).
and if any of you start using Duolingo, you can be my friend
There are several of us from IC over there. I'm cookderosa over there too.
Spanish credits - TESC - cathgrl - 12-07-2015
I know the OP doesn't need this, but for those possibly looking at foreign language courses to transfer in, this might be helpful:
https://il.wisconsin.edu/catalog/subject.aspx?subjectid=105
Yes, I know the first three courses duplicate exams, but I wanted to list them all in Spanish anyway:
U912-101
First Semester Spanish
U912-102
Second Semester Spanish
U912-203
Third Semester Spanish
U912-204
Fourth Semester Spanish
U912-224
Introduction to Hispanic Literature
U912-225
Third Year Language Practice
U912-226
Third-Year Grammar and Composition
U912-311
Advanced Language Practice
U912-322
Elementary Survey of Spanish Literature: 12th to the 18th Centuries
U912-324
Elementary Survey of Spanish Literature: 19th and 20th Centuries
U912-326
Survey of Spanish American Literature
U912-407
Miguel de Unamuno