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TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - gingerbeefE - 03-09-2015

Used mostly Sanantone's beautiful guide, but wanted to ask the easiest way to complete the last 30 or so credits.
Sanantone's BSBA in Computer Information Systems - Degree Forum Wiki
EDIT: I will also have my CCAF complete I don't know anything about TESC AU-ABC program

CLEP/DSST
Analyzing and Interpreting Literature 6
Principles of Marketing 3
College Mathematics 6
Principles of Supervision 3
College Composition Modular 3
Information Systems and Computer Applications 3
Introduction to Computing 3
Principles of Financial Accounting 3

Statistics AP Exam 3

TEEX
TEEX-0252 Cyber Security for Business Professionals 2
TEEX-0250 Cyber Security for Everyone 2
TEEX-0251 Cyber Security for IT Professionals 2

APUS/AMU
COLL100 Foundations of Online Learning 3*
ANTH100 Introduction to Anthropology 3
COMM200 Public Speaking 3
MGMT200 Ethics Fundamentals 3
MGMT100 Human Relations 3

Straighterline
ECON101: Macroeconomics 3
ECON102: Microeconomics 3
ACC102: Accounting II 3
CIV101: Western Civilization I 3
USHIST101: United States History I 3

Airforce
Physical Education 4*
1C531 Technical Training 14*
1C551 Upgrade 8*
Interface Control Operator Initial Qualification Training 7*

This Month
ALEKS College Algebra 3
SL BUS120: Organizational Behavior 3
SL BUS110: Business Law 3
SL BUS105 Business Communication 3

*Doesn’t really count for anything

So here is the courses it looks like I am missing. Any help would be appreciated. I am active duty military so CLEPS/DSSTs are free to me, right of the back I see I could use
College Comp CLEP
Information systems DSST
anything else I could use?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I. General Education Requirements60A. Intellectual and Practical Skills15

English Composition I (ENC-101)
CLEP College Composition Modular

English Composition II (ENC-102)
-3

College Algebra or Quantitative Analysis
ALEKS College Algebra

Managerial Communication
SL BUS105 Business Communication

Electives in Intellectual and Practical Skills
AMU COMM200 Public Speaking

B. Human Cultures and the Physical and Natural World18
Macroeconomics (ECO-111)
SL ECON101: Macroeconomics

Microeconomics (ECO-112)
SL ECON102: Microeconomics

Statistics (STA-201)
Statistics AP Exam

Humanities, Social Science, Natural Science or Interdisciplinary Electives
CLEP Analyzing and Interpreting Literature
CLEP College Mathematics

(9)C. Personal and Social Responsibility
Diversity/Global Literacy
AMU ANTH100 Introduction to Anthropology

Responsible Ethical Leadership
-3
Ethics or Diversity Elective
-3

(3)D. General Education Electives18 Professional Business Requirements. Business Core
Business Law
SL BUS110: Business Law

Computer Concepts and Applications/Introduction to Computers/CIS
CLEP Introduction to Computing

Principles of Financial Accounting
DSST Principles of Financial Accounting

Principles of Managerial Accounting
SL ACC102: Accounting II

Principles of Finance
-3

Introduction to Marketing
CLEP Principles of Marketing

Business in Society or International Management
AMU MGMT200 Ethics Fundamentals

Strategic Management
-3

Principles of Management
***???AMU MGMT100????

(3)B. Area of Study: BSBA Computer Information Systems18
Required Subjects
Programming Language
Systems Analysis and Design
-6


Electives
TEEX-0251 Cyber Security for IT Professionals
TEEX-0250 Cyber Security for Everyone*
-8

12C. Business Electives
Principles of Supervision
SL BUS120: Organizational Behavior
TEEX-0252 Cyber Security for Business Professionals*
-1 (AMU MGMT100 POSSIBLY??)


REQUIRED
• English Composition II (ENC-102) (3) College Comp CLEP
• Diversity/Global Literacy (3) Sophia Intro to world religion
• Responsible Ethical Leadership (3) ??
• Principles of Finance (3) DSST
• Strategic Management (3) ??
UPDATE: Principles of Management is missing. Thought my MGMT100 from AMU would cover it but it is human relations

• Required Subjects Area of Study (6) * Think I might actually want to to take these classes so I can learn
• Area of Study Electives (8)
^Managment Information System DSST -3


Also I head the personal Finance DSST is really hard, has anyone taken the Straighterline? how hard is it?

TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - Prloko - 03-09-2015

gingerbeefE Wrote:EDIT: I will also have my CCAF complete I don't know anything about TESC AU-ABC program


Also I head the personal Finance DSST is really hard, has anyone taken the Straighterline? how hard is it?


When I was researching AU-ABC program, I think TESC only had a BSAST mapped out, but that doesn't really matter because TESC is so extremely military friendly to begin with.

I thought someone had said the personal finance DSST was easy, and the principles of finance was hard. I took the latter and it is not an exam you can take with little study, but I wouldn't call it impossible. You just need to get a copy of the DSST fact sheet and make sure you know the subjects covered to include some simple formulas and calculations (PF, CAPM, Bonds, stock price, EPS, etc.)

TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - Prloko - 03-09-2015

Have you gotten your credits assessed by TESC yet? WHen they did mine, I got full credit for managerial communication (ALS and NCO academy covered it). Also, some of my tech school credits transferred to my major directly and I was able to save having to take a few courses. Let me know what you took and I can give you an idea of where the credits are going to go.

EDIT:

I found an evaluation of how my CCAF credit transferred, the first two (COP-299,399) where my 5 lvl and 7 lvl upgrades. HRM-315 and MAN-373, MSC 101 were my ALS credits.

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left evenrow"] COP-299 Internship/Co-Op Education
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left evenrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right evenrow"] 8.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left oddrow"] COP-399 Internship/Co-Op Education
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left oddrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right oddrow"] 4.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left oddrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left oddrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left evenrow"] AVM-299 Spec. Stud. in Selected Topics
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left evenrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right evenrow"] 3.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left oddrow"] HRM-315 Leadership
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left oddrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right oddrow"] 5.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left oddrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left oddrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left evenrow"] MAN-373 Managerial Communications
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left evenrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right evenrow"] 2.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left oddrow"] MSC-101 Military Science 1
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left oddrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right oddrow"] 2.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left oddrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left oddrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left evenrow"] AVM-211 Airframe Systems, Basic
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left evenrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right evenrow"] 2.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left oddrow"] AVM-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected Topics
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left oddrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right oddrow"] 4.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left oddrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left oddrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left evenrow"] AVM-102 Basic Aviation Maintenance
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left evenrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right evenrow"] 4.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left oddrow"] AVM-211 Airframe Systems, Basic
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left oddrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right oddrow"] 1.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left oddrow"] Y
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left oddrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left evenrow"] AVM-299 Spec. Stud. in Selected Topics
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left evenrow"] CR
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right evenrow"] 6.00
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left evenrow"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left oddrow"] PEA-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected Topics
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

And here are my CCAF contracting courses and how TESC transcribed them. I saved 14 UL credits!

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left oddrow"] OPM-402 Gov't Contracts & Legal Enviro

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left oddrow"] CR

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right oddrow"] 7.00

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left oddrow"]


[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left oddrow"]


[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left evenrow"] OPM-407 Government Contract Administra

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left evenrow"] CR

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right evenrow"] 2.00

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left evenrow"]


[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left evenrow"]


[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left oddrow"] OPM-408 Intro to Solicitation

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left oddrow"] CR

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right oddrow"] 4.00

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_REPL_CODE left oddrow"]


[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_TERM left oddrow"]


[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_COURSE_NAME left evenrow"] OPM-499 Subcontract Management

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_VERIFIED_GRADE left evenrow"] CR

[/TD]
[TD="class: VAR_STC_CMPL_CRED right evenrow"] 1.00

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - gingerbeefE - 03-09-2015

Okay cool, this is actually really helpful! Unfortunately, I haven't been to ALS yet, I think I will save that Managerial Com credit to be one of my last ones. I pin on SrA in like 3 months haven't been in that long. Came in, screwed around for a year, then got like all my credits in about a year or so time frame. I just finished my last credits for CCAF a week ago, submitted the transcript 3 days ago. Last time I submitted a transcript to CCAF it took 3 months for them to apply the credit. Do you think they would give me more credit if I waited for the CCAF AAS as a whole or to just transfer it as is?


• Diversity/Global Literacy (3)
^^ can this be completed by like an Intro to World Religion?

TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - gingerbeefE - 03-10-2015

Little update think I got a few figured out


·******** English Composition II (College Comp)
·******** Ethics or Diversity Elective (Free Sophia Intro to world religions)
·******** Responsible Ethical Leadership (No clue, any help PLEAASEEE XD)
·******** Principles of Finance (DSST)
·******** Strategic Management (No Clue, think I might have to take this, any help PLEAASEEE XD)

·******** Programming Language (Plan on actually taking this course)
·******** Systems Analysis and Design (Plan on actually taking this course)

Core Elective 8 more Required
DSST Information Systems (3)
?????
( Also found they had a program that gives the Army equivalent to my job (Command and Control) credits here, maybe they will apply some of my experience here. one can only hope Smile )

Once again any more help would be great, Ill try to clean it up so some one can easily point out if i made an error.

TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - mednat - 03-10-2015

I've noted some options in your list below. There are probably a ton of other options, but these are what I'd recommend (or what i did/am doing)

gingerbeefE Wrote:Little update think I got a few figured out


·******** English Composition II (College Comp)
·******** Ethics or Diversity Elective (Free Sophia Intro to world religions)
·******** Responsible Ethical Leadership (No clue, any help PLEAASEEE XD) Ethics in America DSST
·******** Principles of Finance (DSST) - Could also use Penn Foster Financial management
·******** Strategic Management (No Clue, think I might have to take this, any help PLEAASEEE XD) = Can use Penn Foster Strategic Management (i'd recommend), or take TECEP

·******** Programming Language (Plan on actually taking this course) - Straighterline offers C++, 4 CR
·******** Systems Analysis and Design (Plan on actually taking this course) - Adams state has this pretty cheap.

Core Elective 8 more Required
DSST Information Systems (3)
?????
( Also found they had a program that gives the Army equivalent to my job (Command and Control) credits here, maybe they will apply some of my experience here. one can only hope Smile )

Once again any more help would be great, Ill try to clean it up so some one can easily point out if i made an error.


TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - Prloko - 03-10-2015

gingerbeefE Wrote:Okay cool, this is actually really helpful! Unfortunately, I haven't been to ALS yet, I think I will save that Managerial Com credit to be one of my last ones. I pin on SrA in like 3 months haven't been in that long. Came in, screwed around for a year, then got like all my credits in about a year or so time frame. I just finished my last credits for CCAF a week ago, submitted the transcript 3 days ago. Last time I submitted a transcript to CCAF it took 3 months for them to apply the credit. Do you think they would give me more credit if I waited for the CCAF AAS as a whole or to just transfer it as is?


• Diversity/Global Literacy (3)
^^ can this be completed by like an Intro to World Religion?

Thomas Edison is going to pick the CCAF apart anyways, so no real reason to wait to send the transcript (as long as your 5 lvl is already on your transcript, i don't see a benefit in waiting). I think a lot of people do SL business communications for managerial com, so if you haven't done ALS, (i think they make you wait to your 4th year now right?) it may not benefit you to wait, its up to you and what your goals and time frame are. If the last CCAF credits were from outside (CLEP, outside courses), TESC is going to pull it from the origin transcript not CCAF.

Intro to world religion fits in as one of the diversity courses. I had the old LA format before the big change, but my wife has in that section intro to sociology, ethics in america, and intro to world religions to cover the ethics and respons. section.

Good job getting done quick with the CCAF, CMSA Cody took 11 years to get his and only got his Bachelor's like 2 years ago, and he is the CMSA, so you're way ahead of the bell curve, i took 8 years. People wait to the last minute to get math done, it would be nice if AU would accept ALEKs, but they don't.

TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - Prloko - 03-10-2015

gingerbeefE Wrote:Little update think I got a few figured out


·******** English Composition II (College Comp)
·******** Ethics or Diversity Elective (Free Sophia Intro to world religions)
·******** Responsible Ethical Leadership (No clue, any help PLEAASEEE XD)
·******** Principles of Finance (DSST)
·******** Strategic Management (No Clue, think I might have to take this, any help PLEAASEEE XD)

·******** Programming Language (Plan on actually taking this course)
·******** Systems Analysis and Design (Plan on actually taking this course)

Core Elective 8 more Required
DSST Information Systems (3)
?????
( Also found they had a program that gives the Army equivalent to my job (Command and Control) credits here, maybe they will apply some of my experience here. one can only hope Smile )

Once again any more help would be great, Ill try to clean it up so some one can easily point out if i made an error.

I concur with mednat's recommendations. For the core, i believe DSST now has a cyber security exam, and also TESC has some IT related TECEPs that can fit in there. I took the actual strategic management course because I didn't want to TECEP it, and I didn't want Penn Foster anywhere near my transcript in case I wanted to apply to a more selective master's program (no disrespect to Penn Foster). From what I read on this forum Penn Foster Strat Mgmt is cheap, quick and easy, so it would be a good option. TESC's Strategic Management course was challenging, but enjoyable. I think it was challenging because the mentor for my class is an NYU MBA and a successful executive and she always pressed me on giving more analysis, but she was understanding of my military situation and let me submit a bunch of late papers. I got a B, but it was enjoyable.

TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - sanantone - 03-10-2015

You should really get an evaluation because your ethics course from AMU will probably meet the ethics requirement.
Sanantone's General Education Options - Degree Forum Wiki

TESC BSBA In CIS path ?s - Prloko - 03-10-2015

sanantone Wrote:You should really get an evaluation because your ethics course from AMU will probably meet the ethics requirement.
Sanantone's General Education Options - Degree Forum Wiki

Good catch, Sanantone. Also, with the residency option, there really is no reason to wait to enroll anymore. You can always switch to the enrolled option later.