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TESC PLA via Coursera? - SweetSecret - 09-09-2014
Has anyone been successfully granted PLA credit for a Coursera.org course at TESC? If so, did you go with the general track or the signature track?
I'm just finishing up the course on human trafficking, and getting ready to start the course on social entrepreneurship. I'm debating if it's worth the cost of $49 to get on the signature track. If it makes a difference in getting PLA credits, that would really be a deciding factor. I e-mailed TESC, but would like to see if anyone here actually has experience with this.
TESC PLA via Coursera? - JohnnyHeck - 09-09-2014
TESC hews the line that PLA is not for documenting success at independent study although this could be one piece of your narrative where your certificate could be used as evidence. First off, your PLA must match a similar course at TESC. Then you document that you have the equivalent knowledge of this through perhaps your Coursera course and some kind of actual experience in the field which is confirmed by a letter of recommendation from someone who knows your work. Generally, the whole process is a lot easier and cheaper through Learning Counts as their reviewers don't seem to be such big sticklers on the "demonstrated knowledge" like TESC.
TESC PLA via Coursera? - sanantone - 09-09-2014
TESC's PLA system is now cheaper if you're attempting multiple courses (you don't have to take TESC's PLA courses), but they do require a lot more writing. I believe LearningCounts expects 3 pages per credit while TESC expects 5.
TESC PLA via Coursera? - JohnnyHeck - 09-10-2014
Sanantone, I might be out-of date but my son's PLA had to be 20+ pages for 3 credits with an additional 10 pages for each 3 hr credit course in sequence under one submission. E.g. Acct I,II,III,IV would document out with 50 pages. I don't think there really is a fixed number per se. I believe Falling Waters documented many of her piano performance courses with less, but she submitted video with some of her submissions.
TESC PLA via Coursera? - Devanna - 09-10-2014
SweetSecret Wrote:Has anyone been successfully granted PLA credit for a Coursera.org course at TESC? If so, did you go with the general track or the signature track?
I'm just finishing up the course on human trafficking, and getting ready to start the course on social entrepreneurship. I'm debating if it's worth the cost of $49 to get on the signature track. If it makes a difference in getting PLA credits, that would really be a deciding factor. I e-mailed TESC, but would like to see if anyone here actually has experience with this.
Hey, I'm going through that course too (the human trafficking one)!
TESC PLA via Coursera? - sanantone - 09-10-2014
JohnnyHeck Wrote:Sanantone, I might be out-of date but my son's PLA had to be 20+ pages for 3 credits with an additional 10 pages for each 3 hr credit course in sequence under one submission. E.g. Acct I,II,III,IV would document out with 50 pages. I don't think there really is a fixed number per se. I believe Falling Waters documented many of her piano performance courses with less, but she submitted video with some of her submissions.
I'm going by the course materials in the PLA-100 and PLA-200 courses. 5 pages is not a fixed requirement, but it's the minimum expected.
TESC PLA via Coursera? - SweetSecret - 09-12-2014
JohnnyHeck Wrote:First off, your PLA must match a similar course at TESC. Then you document that you have the equivalent knowledge of this through perhaps your Coursera course and some kind of actual experience in the field which is confirmed by a letter of recommendation from someone who knows your work..
My understanding is that TESC doesn't have to offer the course, and that a person could simply find the description for a college level course with their area of interest, through places such as CourseAtlas.com.
sanantone Wrote:TESC's PLA system is now cheaper if you're attempting multiple courses (you don't have to take TESC's PLA courses), but they do require a lot more writing. I believe LearningCounts expects 3 pages per credit while TESC expects 5.
I'm aware of both of these things. I gave the price breakdown on the New TECEP thread. I am super close to already finishing the degree, but under the per credit tuition plan. I will already need to take additional credits beyond the degree requirements in order to meet TESC's 24 credit residency requirement.
Devanna Wrote:Hey, I'm going through that course too (the human trafficking one)!
I'll send you a PM. I'd be interested to hear how you are liking it.
TESC PLA via Coursera? - sanantone - 09-12-2014
That post was in response to JohnnyHeck.
TESC PLA via Coursera? - JohnnyHeck - 09-12-2014
SweetSecret Wrote:My understanding is that TESC doesn't have to offer the course, and that a person could simply find the description for a college level course with their area of interest, through places such as CourseAtlas.com.I did a lot of work qualifying a course on Chorale Arranging for TESC that I scoped out Western Wisconsin University including much correspondence with the professor there as to exact course outcomes. Todd Seben of TESC approved the course for PLA but insisted on crossing to an existing TESC PLA title, Arranging I which had different outcomes than my proposal. In the end, I did not do this "approved" PLA because Todd further required that a narrative with actual arrangements demonstrating the equivalent knowledge of the course would not fly because "PLA is not for independent study". He demanded that my arrangements to have been used in public performance. This was far more than what the course outcomes required. I ended up getting World Music at ASU accepted for UL. This ASU course did not even require music theory as a pre-requisite, only 40 hr. total credit standing. Go figure. I'm almost sure based on Falling Waters' experience at Learning Counts that my Chorale Arranging PLA would have been accepted there. But I don't know whether TESC would have accepted it as titled, crossed it to their Arranging I, or denied me TE.
TESC PLA via Coursera? - PaintTheSunset - 09-12-2014
I wonder if TESC may be changing its policy against using independent study for the PLA portfolio. The new ASBA Open Course Option with Saylor includes several courses for which the learning is attained through independent study and the credit is earned via portfolio. I can't imagine that they would expect much real-life experience for subjects such as the economics courses.
Open Course Option for ASBA