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Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - gryan665 - 02-19-2014
Has anyone ever used BYU Independent study? i need to have one more chemistry. I did not pass the CLEP chem
it was nasty. so i need to have a chem class and WGU will accept BYU Independent study. But i dont know anything about them. anyone use them? they are expensive. about $500 plus books. ouch. but from what i can see it would cost the same at a CC, after registration and out of state costs. i already used SL for chem and recommend them for chem. just dont like proctoru, but got over it, with a means to an end. however i still need another chem without lab, just the class. any ideas? i looked at the past threads and got good ideas, but i done know anything about BYU Independent study. is.byu.edu/
Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - Prloko - 02-19-2014
gryan665 Wrote:Has anyone ever used BYU Independent study? i need to have one more chemistry. I did not pass the CLEP chem
is.byu.edu/
I took three courses with BYU. Speech, which was incredibly easy, and two accounting courses which were difficult. I believe that UptonSinclair took a few also and maybe he'll chime in. I think you learn a lot with BYU, they are not gimme credits. Also, just be mindful that BYU is not shy about their Mormon affiliation and the ideology is incorporated into their courses. I don't have a problem with this, but people with other beliefs may. One of the great things about BYU is you set your own pace and like SL, can finish rather quickly if motivated. They are not cheap like they once were though.
Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - Beate - 02-19-2014
I've also taken 3 courses with BYU (one at high school level - Chemistry, two at college level - Intermediate Algebra and World Regional Geography).
Other than a welcome message detailing their affiliation with the LDS church (BYU is owned by the church) and references to that in the "academic honor code" my courses didn't contain anything further on religion, but ymmv. It's always wise to be aware of a school's background.
Academically I found my courses to be challenging (chem and maths are not my strong subjects and definitely not my favorites - geography I found a lot easier, but there was quite a lot to study), but doable. You'll have to know the material, but at least in the courses I took the instructions were clear on what was important to know.
I took my exams at their beautiful campus in Utah and everybody I dealt with there (and online before and after) was extremely friendly and helpful.
Good luck with whatever course you choose!
Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - bluebooger - 02-19-2014
gryan665 Wrote:... however i still need another chem without lab, just the class. any ideas? ...
not BYU, and may already duplicate your SL credit, but worth checking out
Chemistry > Division of Continuing Education > Colorado State University-Pueblo
CHEM 101
Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - UptonSinclair - 02-19-2014
I have taken one course at BYU and dropped two. They have a fairly generous drop policy, so if you get into the first couple of weeks of class and decide it is a bad fit, they only keep a $60 fee. The Freshman comp class I took through them was incredible. The professor was a phd and took the time to comment on every writing assignment. Be prepared for hard work. Their courses have been the most challenging I have seen in distance education.
They are one of the cheapest solutions you are going to find from a four year university.
Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - Prloko - 02-20-2014
Beate Wrote:I've also taken 3 courses with BYU (one at high school level - Chemistry, two at college level - Intermediate Algebra and World Regional Geography).
Other than a welcome message detailing their affiliation with the LDS church (BYU is owned by the church) and references to that in the "academic honor code" my courses didn't contain anything further on religion, but ymmv. It's always wise to be aware of a school's background.
Academically I found my courses to be challenging (chem and maths are not my strong subjects and definitely not my favorites - geography I found a lot easier, but there was quite a lot to study), but doable. You'll have to know the material, but at least in the courses I took the instructions were clear on what was important to know.
I took my exams at their beautiful campus in Utah and everybody I dealt with there (and online before and after) was extremely friendly and helpful.
Good luck with whatever course you choose!
The accounting courses I took, had many references to missionary work, paying tithes, I had to view a video on ethics for accounting (which was given by an LDS elder). Like I said though, I didn't have a problem with it, they weren't trying to change my beliefs or anything, they just assume an LDS affiliation. The original mission of the BYU independent study program is for students who needed to leave for family obligations (wife having kids) or for missionary work in another country.
Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - cookderosa - 02-20-2014
gryan665 Wrote:Has anyone ever used BYU Independent study? i need to have one more chemistry. I did not pass the CLEP chem
is.byu.edu/
What is your main goal? Cheap, fast, indy, easy, test-out, no lab? There are winners in various categories, but I don't think any one school offers a winner in all of them.
(are you sure another intro chem w/o lab won't duplicate your SL chem? I'm about 99% sure it does, you should check)
Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - Jonathan Whatley - 02-20-2014
gryan665 Wrote:Has anyone ever used BYU Independent study? i need to have one more chemistry. I did not pass the CLEP chem
I added this emphasis. The only university-level chemistry course from BYU IS is CHEM 100 Elementary College Chemistry. If you already have credit for General Chemistry I from Straighterline, this will "duplicate" and not get you any additional credit towards the requirement. Similarly, courses with titles like Basic Chemistry, Introduction to Chemistry, Chemistry for Health Sciences, Chemistry for Liberal Arts, and Chemistry and Society will as a rule duplicate General Chemistry I.
Your natural choice will probably be General Chemistry II from another source. From bluebooger's link to CSU-Pueblo, CHEM 211 Introduction to Organic Chemistry would not duplicate Gen Chem I. A course in Biochemistry wouldn't duplicate, but if you were looking to go with Biochem you should make sure that WGU would count it toward your chemistry requirement rather than under biology.
BYU IS does also offer one Chemical Engineering course, CH EN 273 Chemical Process Principles. It's pretty heavy-duty stuff with a long list of prerequisites intended for Chemical Engineering majors.
Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - rebel100 - 02-20-2014
CSU-Pueblo is actually much easier to work with. I tried to go with BYU but found they weren't as helpful and they refused to play the financial aid game...so I went CSU-P and they really went out of their way for me on several occasions.
Does is HAVE to be Chemistry? There are a lot more options if you open it up to other sciences.
Anyone ever use BYU Independent study - cookderosa - 02-20-2014
Jonathan Whatley Wrote:I added this emphasis. The only university-level chemistry course from BYU IS is CHEM 100 Elementary College Chemistry. If you already have credit for General Chemistry I from Straighterline, this will "duplicate" and not get you any additional credit towards the requirement. Similarly, courses with titles like Basic Chemistry, Introduction to Chemistry, Chemistry for Health Sciences, Chemistry for Liberal Arts, and Chemistry and Society will as a rule duplicate General Chemistry I.
Your natural choice will probably be General Chemistry II from another source. From bluebooger's link to CSU-Pueblo, CHEM 211 Introduction to Organic Chemistry would not duplicate Gen Chem I. A course in Biochemistry wouldn't duplicate, but if you were looking to go with Biochem you should make sure that WGU would count it toward your chemistry requirement rather than under biology.
BYU IS does also offer one Chemical Engineering course, CH EN 273 Chemical Process Principles. It's pretty heavy-duty stuff with a long list of prerequisites intended for Chemical Engineering majors.
I just looked and SL only offers chem 1, not chem 2, which I estimate is what has created the problem for this poster.