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Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - ryoder - 08-05-2011
With all of the choices out there of low cost, at your own pace, distance learning and online options, why would anyone choose a school that is only nationally NA or distance education DETC accredited?
I just don't see the point. I bet that the course work is just as hard and that you learn just as much but the fact that you cannot transfer those credits into another school that is regionally accredited is a deal breaker. Also, if you have a NA or DETC bachelors degree, you probably won't be able to get into an RA masters program.
Some jobs won't recognize these degrees either.
So what is the point? What am I missing?
Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - marianne202 - 08-05-2011
If you don't need RA credits for college transfer or employment and you just want to take the courses for your own personal enrichment then NA and DETC schools could fit the bill. I would also bet there are a lot of employers that don't know the difference between RA, NA and DETC accreditation, and some of the NA and DETC schools are on the DOE list and that is the criteria for most employers and even my RA community college will accept credits in transfer from NA and DETC schools if they are on the DOE list. Since I'm in academia I have to go to RA schools, but for a lot of students NA and DETC schools fit the bill perfectly. If they didn't serve a need they would have had to shut their doors without any students.
Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - ryoder - 08-05-2011
I realize they are a commercial success but so are cigarettes. If people knew the facts then I don't think they would be as successful.
Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - rebel100 - 08-05-2011
There are several career colleges in Orlando that are not RA. They offer programs like Nursing/Paramedic/Culinary Arts, they do have other accreditation to offer those programs. I always thought they were stupid expensive compared to the local CC.
As someone who trains new hireParameducs I really think the CC's do a better job educating their students. I don't know if the difference is in the applicants to such schools or the quality of the education...but the difference is sometimes startling!
Im glad I stuck with RA all the way through, keeps things simpler.
Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - cookderosa - 08-05-2011
ryoder Wrote:With all of the choices out there of low cost, at your own pace, distance learning and online options, why would anyone choose a school that is only nationally NA or distance education DETC accredited?
I just don't see the point. I bet that the course work is just as hard and that you learn just as much but the fact that you cannot transfer those credits into another school that is regionally accredited is a deal breaker. Also, if you have a NA or DETC bachelors degree, you probably won't be able to get into an RA masters program.
Some jobs won't recognize these degrees either.
So what is the point? What am I missing?
You're not missing anything. IMO, an NA undergrad is a HUGE mistake. HUGE (unless we are talking about trade school/trade occupation). OTOH, a NA grad degree probably not a huge deal for many industries. (not to be confused with an unaccredited degree- we "are" talking national accreditation which can be ok for many people)
I have 1 NA degree, 2 RA degrees. The hubby has 2 NA degrees. In our field, it hasn't mattered at all.
Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - BrandeX - 08-05-2011
@OP: DETC is NA, your post indicates you may think they are a separate type.
I surmise most people attend NA schools because they simply don't know the difference, as NA is technically legal/legit. Also it sounds "higher" than RA. I'd also wager in general NA schools have more aggressive marketing.
Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - IgnazSemmelweis - 08-05-2011
They don't know any better and are marketed heavily towards that demographic.
Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - ShotoJuku - 08-05-2011
[COLOR="Navy"]NA Vs RA....again?
Really...Seriously...Give this tired old argument a decent burial already! :iagree: [/COLOR]
Re-Posted/Related Shoto-Advice
[COLOR="Navy"]As for the accreditation issue, and no it is not an argument but more of an old tired out subject matter, I think it's important to discern that the difference between RA & NA is simply an issue that comes up in academia and really should not come up in an employment situation - both (RA & NA) are accredited and recognized by the USDoEd and CHEA.
Apply for a position, list your degrees on the application and your CV and then sit the interview. If your asked about your degree talk about what strengths it has given you and how it (and you of course) can be a better asset to their company. Should the "Is your degree from and accredited school?" question be asked the answer is a simply "yes." If you need to expand....."Yes, my school is recognized and approved by the USDoEd and CHEA."
Here's something else to dwell on to:[/COLOR]
Precious Metal (Semantics)
IL (Ivy League) = Platinum
RA (Any of the Eight) = 24k Gold
NA (DETC, TRACS, ABHE, or ACE Reviewed) = 14k Gold
NA (ACCCT, ACCET, ACICS) = 10k Gold
SA (State Approved and Legal) = Silver
RE (Religious Exempt) = Sterling Silver
DM (Diploma Mills and/or Illegal) = Leadâ¦â¦.or Kryptonite!
[B][COLOR="Navy"]I like the DETC and firmly believe that they fill a void for those of us that either cannot or choose not to attend a B&M $chool which is yet another important distinction for people to consider.
Remember the whole IL vs RA vs NA vs SA vs RE vs DM has everything to do with accepting credits from one school to another whereas getting a job has everthing to do with being qualified.[/COLOR][/B]
Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - marclar2u - 08-05-2011
ryoder Wrote:I realize they are a commercial success but so are cigarettes. If people knew the facts then I don't think they would be as successful.
:iagree:
But... some people are just plain hard headed. I told him it was a bad idea - i might as well have sung it up and down the hallways - but my co-worker got an MBA (and I use that term loosely) from a NA school simply because it was the cheapest place he could find (but not because he was strapped for cash). And wonders why he keeps getting passed over for promo.... :nopity:
Why would anyone go to a non-RA school? - marclar2u - 08-05-2011
ShotoJuku Wrote:[B][COLOR="Navy"]NA Vs RA....again?
NA (DETC, TRACS, ABHE, or ACE Reviewed) = 14k Gold
NA (ACCCT, ACCET, ACICS) = 10k Gold
... is treated more like bronze or aluminum. No love from recruiters
