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Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - Maniac Craniac - 05-01-2011
Osama bin Laden, the face of terror, killed in Pakistan - CNN.com
Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - CLEP101 - 05-01-2011
Maniac Craniac Wrote:Osama bin Laden, the face of terror, killed in Pakistan - CNN.com
I remember hearing Pakistan swear up and down Osama was not in their country.
Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - ryoder - 05-02-2011
Yeah man I was thinking the same thing. Pakistan was hiding him for sure. They are sort of like the worst kind of frenemy you can have. They have nukes and claim to be supportive of the US in the war on terror but haven't done shit. Osama was in a Pakistani army bunker. That says a lot.
Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - burbuja0512 - 05-02-2011
Maniac Craniac Wrote:Osama bin Laden, the face of terror, killed in Pakistan - CNN.com
Such good news. Great job US Military and intelligence!
Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - CLEP101 - 05-02-2011
ryoder Wrote:Yeah man I was thinking the same thing. Pakistan was hiding him for sure. They are sort of like the worst kind of frenemy you can have. They have nukes and claim to be supportive of the US in the war on terror but haven't done shit. Osama was in a Pakistani army bunker. That says a lot.
We are hearing that Pakistan is trying to wash their hands, saying it was a US only attack. That they had nothing to do with the operation. They are trying to avoid retaliation attacks by Al Qaeda.
Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - Elinor - 05-02-2011
Hmmm... now why would they do that? Is the Obama administration clever enough to come up with a totally new bad guy to keep up public support for the next year or so?
Quote:Although the U.S. government was unaware of it at the time, bin Laden was already actively working against it.
Ahem, I have my doubts. Perhaps it's true, but I can hardly imagine the US government was actually unaware of bin Laden's anti-western leanings (and with the US at the head of all things western the natural conclusion would be... Right.)
Quote:Ramzi Yousef, would later be revealed to have close ties to al Qaeda.
I could easily be wrong again, but if 9-11 had happened in the '50s or '60s (maybe even '70s) wouldn't Mr. Yousef be "revealed to have close ties to Communists"?
Also, why has it taken over a decade to unearth this guy? He's one man against multiple nations (and who knows who all is/was against him in his own lands...). You'd think they could have worked this out sooner. But there I'm getting dangerously close to conspiracy theories, and I'd rather not go there (too much anyway). I prefer to just have a healthy suspicion of the government - whether it's republican, democrat, libertarian, or whatever else there is.
Anyway, just my 2 cents. I haven't read anything other than this article about this moment in history, so I wouldn't call my opinion well-rounded. But I do think that there's some historical precedence here. I mean, c'mon! Think of the cliches "history repeats itself" and "there's nothing new under the sun." They wouldn't be cliches if there wasn't some reason to use them over and over and over again. Just sayin'.
I've done enough study recently about modern history to know that the US will ALWAYS need a bad guy (unless something incredibly drastic happens, and I'm not seeing that come about any time soon). If bin Laden is dead, who is going to be next?
I have my doubts that the United States' troubles with the Middle East extremists are really over. Bin Laden was just the international face and voice for them; they're still there. If any one of them has organizational powers, he could take control in no time. Of course, there might be more than one with organizational powers, and then they'd have to fight it out amongst themselves, which may, indeed, free the US from Islamic extremists for a good long while. Maybe.
Okay, I'm done now. Sorry, this moment appealed to my history-major-in-the-making. :p
EDIT - BTW, I have nothing at all against any branch of the US military. I think they're great, and I really appreciate everything they do to keep us safe here in the states. I'm a bit pessimistic about the government right now though (just read through Common Sense by Thomas Paine and a bunch of other stuff about what the founders intended by the Revolutionary War, Articles of Confederation, and Constitution...).
Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - ShotoJuku - 05-02-2011
[COLOR="Navy"]Regardless of the politics and the intelligence, the souls of over 3000+ Americans (et al) who died on that very bleak day on September 11th 2001 may have some solace in knowing that the voice that led to their collective deaths has been silenced.
:patriot: [/COLOR]
Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - Elinor - 05-02-2011
Oh, yes! I certainly did not mean to come across as unfeeling to the families and people who lost their lives in the attacks. It was an amazing time in America; people came together and there was a revival, a remembrance, of the faith upon which this nation was founded. In some ways, while it was an extremely sad moment in our history, it was also a high point where we remembered Who to call upon in times of trouble. I wish now that we would remember to call upon Him when we're not in so much immediate trouble, and to thank Him for everything. I prayed for the families and individuals affected by the attacks, and I praised God for the courage of the rescuers and the passengers who averted potential attacks. I cried with the survivors.
Please do not interpret my cynical rant as being unfeeling towards those affected! I did not mean it that way AT ALL! I just think that Osama bin Laden's death might not be as great a victory as perhaps it is, by some, being made out as.
Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - Ruddigore - 05-02-2011
ShotoJuku Wrote:...the souls of over 3000+ Americans (et al) who died on that very bleak day on September 11th 2001 may have some solace in knowing that the voice that led to their collective deaths has been silenced.Hear hear! Justice has been done. :patriot:
Go Navy Seals!
Ding Dong, Osama is Dead - Tasman - 05-02-2011
Finally...