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On the home stretch - KyleH - 02-17-2011

So I'm not far away from completing my History area of study from TESC and I just want to make sure this will work with upper level credits and things like that. Let me know if you have any improvements.

A. Required Course Section [COLOR="DarkGreen"][INDENT]Western Civilizations I..................3......CLEP
Western Civilizations II.................3......CLEP
History of the US I.......................3......CLEP
History of the US II......................3......CLEP
Rise & Fall of the Soviet Union.......3......DSST*
[/INDENT] [/COLOR] B. History Electives
[INDENT]Liberal Arts Capstone..................3.......TESC*
War & American society..............6.......TESC*
A History of the Vietnam War.......3.......DSST*
Modern Middle East....................3.......DSST*
The Civil War & Reconstruction....3.......DSST[/INDENT]

*upper level


On the home stretch - Yenisei - 02-18-2011

The only change I might suggest is taking the ECE American Dream, which while reputed to be difficult, must surely be easier and less expensive than a 6 credit course with TESC or the Capstone.

Ohio U has 3 UL some credit-by-exam worth 8 credits if you pass all three and BYU and LSU have some inexpensive history courses as well.


On the home stretch - Elinor - 02-18-2011

KyleH Wrote:So I'm not far away from completing my History area of study from TESC and I just want to make sure this will work with upper level credits and things like that. Let me know if you have any improvements.

A. Required Course Section [COLOR="DarkGreen"][INDENT]Western Civilizations I..................3......CLEP
Western Civilizations II.................3......CLEP
History of the US I.......................3......CLEP
History of the US II......................3......CLEP
Rise & Fall of the Soviet Union.......3......DSST*
[/INDENT] [/COLOR] B. History Electives
[INDENT]Liberal Arts Capstone..................3.......TESC*
War & American society..............6.......TESC*
A History of the Vietnam War.......3.......DSST*
Modern Middle East....................3.......DSST*
The Civil War & Reconstruction....3.......DSST[/INDENT]

*upper level

Are you sure TESC will let you use all 4 of the history CLEPs in your area of study? From Kevin's updated Big 3 Comparison, I don't think you can; they're all counted as 100-level, only 6 credits worth can go towards your area of study.

Just something to consider. I'm going for History as well, and was majorly bummed to find that I couldn't use all 4 of those CLEPs where I wanted to. I haven't had an evaluation though, so if you have and they accepted all those tests, don't pay any attention to me. Smile


On the home stretch - MA2 - 02-18-2011

Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind me asking, but what do you plan on doing with a history degree?

I see a lot of people going to TESC and Excelsior for History degrees...

I'm only curious because a lot of high school kids graduate then get 4 year degrees in art appreciation or psychology and wonder why they can't find a job and then blame the economy.

It just doesn't seem like an "in demand" degree to me... but I could very well be wrong. Just wondering is all, don't take it the wrong way. Last time I asked a legitimate question I was almost stoned to death Wink


On the home stretch - toddsbiyj - 02-18-2011

**Throws stone**

Just kidding.

I am curious as well. I tend to wonder if maybe it is the same reason I am looking at a BS liberal studies degree with a mixture of useful subject matter. I just need a piece of paper to obtain the actual jobs that I want, or basically to move up to the next level.


On the home stretch - Elinor - 02-18-2011

MA2 Wrote:Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind me asking, but what do you plan on doing with a history degree?

I see a lot of people going to TESC and Excelsior for History degrees...

I'm only curious because a lot of high school kids graduate then get 4 year degrees in art appreciation or psychology and wonder why they can't find a job and then blame the economy.

It just doesn't seem like an "in demand" degree to me... but I could very well be wrong. Just wondering is all, don't take it the wrong way. Last time I asked a legitimate question I was almost stoned to death Wink

I don't know about the others going for history degrees around here, but for me it's simply to obtain that piece of paper. When I finished high school, I really had no intention of going to or doing college. The reason I decided to begin testing (3 years later...) was more to have that paper as a safeguard. I was homeschooled from the 2nd grade through high school, and, Lord willing, I'll homeschool my kids. I want to have a degree just in case the laws of the land become less friendly to homeschooling. (Being the cynic that I am however, I realize that if the laws change to requiring homeschooling "teachers" to have a degree, it's only a matter of time before the requirement is a teaching degree, or something even more specific.)

So, obviously, I'm not doing this to make myself marketable or anything like that. I'm doing it as preparation for the future... and to keep myself from getting too bored. :p

BTW, if there had been a different subject that was just a test-out-able and required roughly the same amount of math/science work, I might have chosen that; I wasn't particularly attached to the idea of obtaining a history degree. The only other degrees I was able to find that were more tester-friendly were business degrees, and they required WAY more math... which I happen to be terrible at and loathe. Rolleyes


On the home stretch - Storyteller - 02-18-2011

It is my understanding that Civil War & Reconstruction is a UL DSST test. Have you found that not to be the case with your school?

jan c.


On the home stretch - Yenisei - 02-18-2011

TESC considers it a 200 level course.


On the home stretch - irnbru - 02-18-2011

MA2 Wrote:Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind me asking, but what do you plan on doing with a history degree?

I see a lot of people going to TESC and Excelsior for History degrees...

This is a perfectly reasonable question and has been asked before and subsequently discussed here.

In general, I guess that playing to perceptions means that any degree is better than no degree. If the objective is achieve a degree, no great reason to make the journey harder than it needs to be. Testing out is more streamlined than not. A named degree might be perceived more favourably than a general degree. So testing out of a named degree limits options a little but there are still some options which are (in general) less of a burden than others. Most regionally accredited degrees open doors to postgraduate study.

That's pretty much the thinking which led me to taking the psychology route. I'm fortunate to have a secure job and just looking at access to postgraduate options.

I agree if you're suggesting that a business degree is more useful in general than another degree on the basis that employment in general is business-orientated.

Most of all, however, any degree is better than none.

Also, well done so far, Mr Kyle Smile


On the home stretch - NAP - 02-18-2011

Elinor Wrote:Are you sure TESC will let you use all 4 of the history CLEPs in your area of study? From Kevin's updated Big 3 Comparison, I don't think you can; they're all counted as 100-level, only 6 credits worth can go towards your area of study.

Just something to consider. I'm going for History as well, and was majorly bummed to find that I couldn't use all 4 of those CLEPs where I wanted to. I haven't had an evaluation though, so if you have and they accepted all those tests, don't pay any attention to me. Smile

When I have looked at this degree, I have been confused by this situation, too. I think I finally (hooray!) see what is different.

The History degree - Thomas Edison State College | BA in History Credit Distribution - says:

"Courses transferred to Thomas Edison State College are equated to the following levels: 100, 200, 300 or 400. A minimum of 18 credits equating to 300 or 400 are required. "

The Liberal Studies degree - Thomas Edison State College | BA in Liberal Studies Credit Distribution - says:

"Courses transferred to Thomas Edison State College are equated to the following levels: 100, 200, 300 or 400. A maximum of two college-level courses equating to the 100 level can be applied toward the liberal studies area of study. A minimum of 18 credits equating to 300 or 400 Thomas Edison State College are required." (Bold added. Which means that 9 credits at 200-level are required.)

So the History degree does not seem to have the maximum at 100-level, like the Liberal Studies degree does.

This could be a mistake on the website, so be sure to double-check this with TESC.

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By the way, Kyle, I think your plans for your degree/education/future career are excellent. Please share a quick synopsis again for MA2 and others.