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New guy be gentle - acesup_11 - 07-13-2010
I am 28 yrs old and want to get a degree in business or law. I have only done one semester of college courses then my father had a heart attack and I have been working in sales ever sense making ok money but still want my college degree (hopefully one day my Masters). So i have read a little and was wondering if I could use clep tests (or others) to make up for lost time since I do not have the time to sit in classes or take online classes. I would also like to know if I can transfer the credits I get to an actual college like UCONN, yale, umass etc. Thanks so much everyone and have a great week.
-Jonathan
New guy be gentle - Lindagerr - 07-13-2010
First of all TESC, Excelsior and Charter Oaks are "Real Colleges" they are just what are called on-line or non-Brick & Mortar(B&M) colleges. They are Regionally accredited just like U Conn or U Mass, they are better accredited then some B & M colleges.
Now if you want to get a degree through CLEP/DSST/TECEP & ECE exams your best bet is one of the Big 3 I mentioned above. If you want to be able to brag about some big State University(while you pay off student loans the rest of your life) then you will only be able to earn an average 30-45 credits through testing.
By the way TESC and Charter Oaks are part of their state college systems, I am not sure about Excelsior.
I hope I was gentle enough, but many of us who have worked very hard for our degree don't like having our colleges thought of as not an "actual College"
New guy be gentle - Maniac Craniac - 07-13-2010
acesup_11 Wrote:New guy...*snaps fingers* I like my tea black, whole leaf and seeped for exactly 2 minutes and 12 seconds. GET TO IT!!!!
acesup_11 Wrote:I would also like to know if I can transfer the credits I get to an actual college like UCONN, yale, umass etc.Yes, but each school has a different policy regarding how much they accept. One school may accept some exams but not others, and one school may have a higher maximum allowance of using CLEP and similar exams than others. You can usually find the testing policy for the school on their website, but it is hardly ever easy to find. If there is a search function, try "CLEP" "ACE" or "testing." Sometimes it can be found in the site's section for transfer students.
Did you know that UCONN and UMASS have online degree programs? If you are unable to relocate, or, find it more convenient, you can get a degree with them online by combining your transfer credits and CLEPs, then finishing out your degree with them. The school I will get my BA from, Columbia College (of Missouri) allows up to half of your degree to come from non-traditional credit such as CLEP, and you only need to take 24 credits with Columbia to get a degree with them. The rest can be transferred in from inexpensive schools like Clovis Community College, and the semester that you already have in the bank.
Lindagerr Wrote:Now if you want to get a degree through CLEP/DSST/TECEP & ECE exams your best bet is one of the Big 3 I mentioned above.For many people, yes, the Big 3 are the best bet, but it doesn't sound like that is what the OP is looking for. Since he only has one semester of transfer credit, taking a year of classes at another college + his transfer credits + CLEP could get him a degree elsewhere, whether online or B&M, with a convenience factor similar to that of the Big 3.
Lindagerr Wrote:I hope I was gentle enough, but many of us who have worked very hard for our degree don't like having our colleges thought of as not an "actual College"Where did the OP say that the big three weren't real colleges? He didn't mention them, and as of this moment we don't even know if he has ever heard of them. Besides, if you are happy with the work that you put into your degree, then there is no need for anyone to get defensive.
New guy be gentle - taylor - 07-13-2010
New guy,
Yes, the Big 3 are all REGIONALLY accredited which seems to be the most important thing once you graduate. I went to 3 different B&M schools and most of my credits transferred to TESC. I can't give you much testing advice because I had a harder time with CLEPS and DSST than most here but I'm sure Linda and others will point you in the right direction. I finished most of my degree with classes and ALEKS. BTW, I'm also in Sales and my job does require a degree, not sure why. If you can sell, you can sell, right? Just another reason to motivate people to get their degree. Good Luck!
Linda,
Belated Congrats on finishing! I guess I missed your I'm done thread.
New guy be gentle - JBjunior - 07-13-2010
I agree with MC, it seems he was thinking of the CLEP not being "real" credit in the traditional sense and transferring them to real college. I am sure he isn't even aware of the different ways of earning credit and the policies of different colleges.
New guy be gentle - Lindagerr - 07-14-2010
acesup_11 Wrote:I do not have the time to sit in classes or take online classes. I would also like to know if I can transfer the credits I get to an actual college like UCONN, yale, umass etc.
-Jonathan
I found the statement above difficult. I tried not to bite his head off. It just looked like he was asking for a way to use one of these not "actual college" places to get easy credit to transfer to a Real college.
My heart does go out to him for stepping up and helping out when his family needed him. I also wanted him to understand no matter what path he takes it won't be a cake walk.
OP if it helps you to know a young friend of mine cut 1 whole year off her college time by taking the 5 general subject 6 credit CLEP exams for a total of 30 credits. She graduated this past May after only 3 years with a BA (with honors) from NYU. I hope that helps answer your question.
Taylor: Thank you I finished my work and wrote my I'm done in the end of May. Then I immediately decided to go for a second BA in History.
All: I'm sorry if I sounded to angry last night, I was still dealing with my first failure. Now I have shaken off the anger and depression and decided to fight back. I will not only pass the Math PRAXIS II the next time I will earn recognition of Excellence:p and while I'm at it I will earn excellence on the Science PRAXIS too. :eek:
New guy be gentle - ShotoJuku - 07-14-2010
[COLOR="Navy"]Hello Jon,
Welcome to the IC-Forums-Classroom!
First, my condolences on the loss of your Dad.
As for your degree pursuits, the BIG-3 have proven to be the best solution for many of us who are/were looking to finish what we started sometimes many weeks, months, or years ago. For me that was the BIGGEST of the three -[/COLOR] www.excelsior.edu .
Welcome aboard!
New guy be gentle - PeachyAsh - 07-14-2010
University of Phoenix is a great online alternative to a busy life and they accept up to 30 credits of testing such as CLEP or DSST
New guy be gentle - JBjunior - 07-14-2010
Lindagerr Wrote:I found the statement above difficult. I tried not to bite his head off. It just looked like he was asking for a way to use one of these not "actual college" places to get easy credit to transfer to a Real college.
My heart does go out to him for stepping up and helping out when his family needed him. I also wanted him to understand no matter what path he takes it won't be a cake walk.
OP if it helps you to know a young friend of mine cut 1 whole year off her college time by taking the 5 general subject 6 credit CLEP exams for a total of 30 credits. She graduated this past May after only 3 years with a BA (with honors) from NYU. I hope that helps answer your question.
Taylor: Thank you I finished my work and wrote my I'm done in the end of May. Then I immediately decided to go for a second BA in History.
All: I'm sorry if I sounded to angry last night, I was still dealing with my first failure. Now I have shaken off the anger and depression and decided to fight back. I will not only pass the Math PRAXIS II the next time I will earn recognition of Excellence:p and while I'm at it I will earn excellence on the Science PRAXIS too. :eek:
Linda, I would agree with you about your first sentence except he specifically said he doesn't have time to sit in a classroom or take online classes. To me it sounded like he was wondering about the CLEP acceptance policies for those specific colleges. Who knows.
Sorry to hear about the Praxis II, wasn't that the one with horrible testing conditions?
New guy be gentle - acesup_11 - 07-15-2010
Lindagerr Wrote:First of all TESC, Excelsior and Charter Oaks are "Real Colleges" they are just what are called on-line or non-Brick & Mortar(B&M) colleges. They are Regionally accredited just like U Conn or U Mass, they are better accredited then some B & M colleges.
Now if you want to get a degree through CLEP/DSST/TECEP & ECE exams your best bet is one of the Big 3 I mentioned above. If you want to be able to brag about some big State University(while you pay off student loans the rest of your life) then you will only be able to earn an average 30-45 credits through testing.
By the way TESC and Charter Oaks are part of their state college systems, I am not sure about Excelsior.
I hope I was gentle enough, but many of us who have worked very hard for our degree don't like having our colleges thought of as not an "actual College"
I am sorry I apologize. I know a lot of companies that see online colleges like university of phoenix and do not consider them real college's and throw out the resumes. I assume by what you said the colleges you mention above are not like the University of phoenix. Am i correct in assuming that . Thanks again.