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N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - TMW2010 - 03-21-2010
I would agree that Rutgers is a nationally recognized name.
Granted I've known of Rutgers as a school for a couple decades, but until the announcement, I didn't know it was a state school, or even what state it was in. I never really paid attention to it, past the fact that it exists. I grew up in Washington DC and spent about 30 years around there, so I'm out of the tri-state area. But I'm sure if you said 'I went to Rutgers' to a random person, they'd likely say 'Oh, yeah, I've heard of that school' if knowing nothing else about it.
Still though... I think its rather fraudulent of the TESC students who are chomping at the bit to have a Rutgers degree for the coursework they did at everywhere but Rutgers. If they did the 30 credit residency, sure that's great, they're a Rutgers student.
If you can't hack the name of the school on the degree, why'd you go there in the first place?
- An EC student, and damn proud of it.
N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - Paul - 03-21-2010
I don't usually chime in on these posts but in reviewing the site document Geezer referenced it appeared to me it indicated in a merger time is given & arrangements are made for students in say their last semester or so to complete their studies & receive their degree from the original institution (in this case TESC). Others more knowledgeable in such things can let me know but I'm not seeing where TESC students will be receiving a diploma from anywhere but TESC. Any thoughts anyone??
N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - nj593 - 03-21-2010
Here is a link to the Governor to tell him to allow current students to finish out their degrees without making them change all requirements.
https://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/governor/govmail/govmail_1c_new.pl
N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - Rhashad - 03-21-2010
Is it "fraudulent" to benefit from a legitimate change?
TMW2010 Wrote:I would agree that Rutgers is a nationally recognized name.
Granted I've known of Rutgers as a school for a couple decades, but until the announcement, I didn't know it was a state school, or even what state it was in. I never really paid attention to it, past the fact that it exists. I grew up in Washington DC and spent about 30 years around there, so I'm out of the tri-state area. But I'm sure if you said 'I went to Rutgers' to a random person, they'd likely say 'Oh, yeah, I've heard of that school' if knowing nothing else about it.
Still though... I think its rather fraudulent of the TESC students who are chomping at the bit to have a Rutgers degree for the coursework they did at everywhere but Rutgers. If they did the 30 credit residency, sure that's great, they're a Rutgers student.
If you can't hack the name of the school on the degree, why'd you go there in the first place?
- An EC student, and damn proud of it.
N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - skyfall123 - 03-21-2010
Quote:People against the merger - see TESC as an invaluable resource due to extremely it's extremely low tuition and flexible credit transfer requirements.
People for - The inherent value of the Rutgers brand, Rutgers is one of only 62 colleges belonging to the Association of American Universities. Rutgers tuition is $11,800 per year for NJ citizens, TESC is $5,800 - not a huge gap considering the difference in quality.
Then there are the people in the middle. Those people might say that a merger makes sense if something new is brought to the table. Indiana University is also one of the 62 colleges belonging to the AofAU and already has a Distance Learning program with flexible credit transfers for the first 90 credits, a 30 hour resident requirement at just under $200 per credit hour or 6K (in-state or out of state)Indiana University Online and Distance Education, Undergraduate, Associate Bachelor's Degrees, General Studies. Rutgers current tuition is three times as much as IU and that's for your in state students. Plus the IU program has been successfully run for years.
What is the point of trying to start any DL program at Rutgers if the 30 credit residency for a BS is going to cost 18K? The Penn State World Campus which has 70 established programs is $15K or just under $500 per credit hour.
If Rutgers reverses course and decides they now want a DL program, why sacrifice TESC to accomplish it? It doesn't add up. I doubt that they are going to take every recommendation TESC gives as gospel. They will more likely scrap TESC's model for one they deem is more appropriate. So TESC will be gone and Rutgers will be charging above market tuition for an unproven program that will be marketed to whom? Certainly not the current TESC students. They will go to Excelsior, Charter Oak, Indiana U, Ft Hays, on and on...
So the goal of saving money by having Rutgers absorb TESC now actualy costs the state more money because tons of time energy and money get pumped into the new Rutgers online program, only to find out that they are at a competitive disadvantage.
Although there may be people who look down on TESC, Excelsior, Charter Oak students (and they are certainly allowed to their opinion)....I think they miss the point that those same students may see the folly in pumping 30-40K into a Rutgers undergraduate degree, when you can get an RA degree from TESC, Excelsior, or Charter Oak for around 6K, then spend 18-20K for a Rutgers Masters degree.
N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - taylor - 03-21-2010
Rhashad Wrote:Is it "fraudulent" to benefit from a legitimate change?
I agree. I've been on both ends of a merge between schools and I can say being on this side is much better, if this does happen of course.
I'm curious I know EC used to be Regents, not a merge but a name change I believe but where do the Regents' alum say they graduated from? And if they say EC did they get a grandfathered diploma? I know this isn't comparing apples to apples but was curious if anybody here knows.
N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - taylor - 03-22-2010
This is the most recent article regarding this matter, sounds like the Rutgers president is more open to this than TESC's.
Christie's N.J. budget has Rutgers absorbing Thomas Edison State College | - NJ.com
N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - reshab912 - 03-22-2010
so what happens to someone like me, who just graduated in March 2010. ??
can i use Rutgers name?? or do I still use TESC???
N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - taylor - 03-22-2010
reshab912 Wrote:so what happens to someone like me, who just graduated in March 2010. ??
can i use Rutgers name?? or do I still use TESC???
I'm wondering the same thing, everything is speculation now. I think for those who graduate before the merger it's a win win. I'm happy with my TESC degree but a Rutgers degree would be a free upgrade. It would be like ordering a plain vanilla cone and the server adds some rainbow sprinkles for free :hurray: .
N.J. Governor Wants to Merge Thomas Edison Into Rutgers - reshab912 - 03-22-2010
taylor Wrote:I'm wondering the same thing, everything is speculation now. I think for those who graduate before the merger it's a win win. I'm happy with my TESC degree but a Rutgers degree would be a free upgrade. It would be like ordering a plain vanilla cone and the server adds some rainbow sprinkles for free :hurray: .
LOL i like ur answer