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10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - alleycat - 08-02-2015

Just on college boards website and fill out the transcript request form and mail it in with your payment. I think you might be able to fax it in also. It should take a week or so.


10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - Prloko - 08-03-2015

infoe36069 Wrote:I sent individually my miami dade college transcript and the official finra request so it looks like everything will be coming in individually unfortunately (chalk it up to my inexperience)

That's how it's normally handled. They will both come in at different times. TESC should know they are waiting for additional transcripts.


10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - infoe36069 - 08-06-2015

Updated evaluation and 3 questions, please. So, I'm sparing the details of the second evaluation but essentially my CLEp credit has not arrived yet, they told me they will do one more evaluation when it arrives

1. Before I receive my clep credit it seems I only have 17 credits left, if they match what FIU awarded me for those cleps 11 credits (less than what CLEP board recommends) I will only have 6 credits left to graduate?
2. I'm sending over my resume, the form attached, my business cards, copies of my licenses (certifications), what else can I do to make sure when I send this over the dean will accept it?
3.Well this seems to suck, so in essence I only received 4 credits for my finra exams and one of them was placed in Ethics (prloko) as you told me, so would I request them to place this elsewhere?

when I spoke to an advisor he thought me taking 24 resident credits seemed absurd, it was like he had never heard of someone considering that. I guess it's because I have so few credits left to graduate, I explained the financial burden of taking teceps vs enrolling outweighed the option but he mentioned something to the extent that there are not enough tecep or cleps to satisfy what I wanted to do. I will just ignore his advice since he was not a business advisor (I need to set up an appointment to speak to one)



1. S.H. S.H. Applied S.H. Comm Coll S.H to Overall TESC
Required to Degree Req Remaining S.H. Applied be Planned GPA Met GPA
120.00 103.00 17.00 0.00 14.00 YES
================================================================================

2. H: Strategic Management (Pending)
> Complete 3 semester hours in Strategic Management or
> Business Policy.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. MAN4722 Strategic Management..... (3.00) --- BUS-421 *PL *DOC *TE


07/29/15 It is critical that students possess current knowledge in their BSBA
major area of study of Thomas Edison State College degrees. Credits
earned within the last 10 years are considered current. Credits
earned more than 10 years ago are applied as follows:

Up to 9 credits are applied to the BSBA major area of study. These
credits are identified on the academic program evaluation as 10Y.

If more than 9 credits are completed toward the major area of study,
the remaining credits will be identified as DOC (Demonstration of
Currency).

You must demonstrate that you possess current subject-matter

knowledge before the remaining credits can be applied to the major
area of study.

You may select which courses to apply to the degree and those that
you choose to validate (VAL) through Demonstration of Currency.

Please complete the Validation of Information on Currency
Application: BSBA which can be found on our website at
Thomas Edison State College Student Forms and return it
to the Dean, School of Business and Management.

Completion of the Strategic Management course within five years of
application will validate the business core requirements.


3.

Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
3.. PHI-285... Ethics in Business....... 3.00 CR PHI-285 *NE
Personal and Social Responsibility Elective (Not Started)
3.. FIN-399... Special Topics in Finance 1.00 CR FIN-399 *NE
3 FIN-331 Financial Inst. and Mrkts 3.00 CR FIN-331 *RI*NE*DUP (RULES INELIGBLE AND DUPLICATE)


10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - Prloko - 08-07-2015

It seems another 3 of your FINRA credit WAS accepted, but it duplicated exisiting credit you had.

As far as what your advisor told you, I would ignore it, ESPECIALLY if they were one of the initial customer service reps that answer. Some of us on this site suspect they are an outside subbed call center. They never really have any expert knowledge. Always asked to be transferred to advising, or the registrar as they have better answers (not always correct either).

Long story short, there are plenty of TECEPs. The TECEPs you take need to be able to fit in your degree requirement. So if you take a TECEP and you already have credit, it should replace one of your existing credit slots.

As far as your ethics course, check back on my earlier post when we discussed your FINRA credit. Find the document, speak to the registrar or an actual academic advisor and see if you can get the credit reclassified into something finance related. Try seeing if they classify the one as Money and Capital Markets (FIN-361); it has a different course code and lets you get rid of the duplicate credit. For the ethics, search google and see if another college has a financial ethics course. Show your advisor the course and ask if your credit can be reclassified as finance related, maybe they will give you one of those "special topics" designation, something like FIN-299 or FIN-399. May be worth a shot. If not, accept them for what they are and move on.

PS: PM me your complete eval and I'll do you a one last favor and update the excel spreadsheet of courses.


10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - infoe36069 - 08-07-2015

Prloko Wrote:It seems another 3 of your FINRA credit WAS accepted, but it duplicated exisiting credit you had.

As far as what your advisor told you, I would ignore it, ESPECIALLY if they were one of the initial customer service reps that answer. Some of us on this site suspect they are an outside subbed call center. They never really have any expert knowledge. Always asked to be transferred to advising, or the registrar as they have better answers (not always correct either).

Long story short, there are plenty of TECEPs. The TECEPs you take need to be able to fit in your degree requirement. So if you take a TECEP and you already have credit, it should replace one of your existing credit slots.

As far as your ethics course, check back on my earlier post when we discussed your FINRA credit. Find the document, speak to the registrar or an actual academic advisor and see if you can get the credit reclassified into something finance related. Try seeing if they classify the one as Money and Capital Markets (FIN-361); it has a different course code and lets you get rid of the duplicate credit. For the ethics, search google and see if another college has a financial ethics course. Show your advisor the course and ask if your credit can be reclassified as finance related, maybe they will give you one of those "special topics" designation, something like FIN-299 or FIN-399. May be worth a shot. If not, accept them for what they are and move on.

PS: PM me your complete eval and I'll do you a one last favor and update the excel spreadsheet of courses.

thank you very much

as for the currency of completion, do you know if the school is strict on it? seems that they may want me to retake a course man 4722


10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - infoe36069 - 09-10-2015

Pm sent...


10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - infoe36069 - 09-13-2015

S.H. S.H. Applied S.H. Comm Coll S.H to Overall TESC
Required to Degree Req Remaining S.H. Applied be Planned GPA Met GPA
120.00 103.00 17.00 0.00 14.00 YES
================================================================================

Source Institution Source Institution
1 Miami Dade College 3 Thomas A. Edison State College
2 Florida International Univ

Student: Mr. Staff: datatel Date: 09/13/15 Page: 2
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BSBA General Education (60 SH)
Semester Hours Completed: 57.00
Complete all 4 subrequirements:

A: Intellect/Prac Skill (Completed)
> INTELLECTUAL AND PRACTICAL SKILLS
> Complete 18 semester hours (SH) to include:
> *English Composition I, 3SH with grade of C or better
> *English Composition II (Writing Intensive), 3SH with grade
> of C or better
> *College Algebra OR Quatitative Business Analysis, 3SH
> *Statisticis, 3SH
> *Business/Managerial Communications, 3SH
> *Intellectual and Practical Skills Electives, 3SH
Semester Hours Completed: 18.00
ENC-101 (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. ENC1101 Freshman Comp............ 3.00 CR ENC-101 *TE
ENC-102 (Writing Intensive) (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. ENC1102 Literary Analysis........ 3.00 CR ENC-102 *TE
College Algebra OR Quantitative Business Analysis (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. MAC1105 College Algebra.......... 3.00 B MAT-121 *TE
Statistics (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. STA2023 Stat Bus & Eco........... 3.00 B STA-201 *TE
Business/Managerial Communications (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. COM3110 Bus and Prof Commun...... 3.00 B- COM-300 *TE
Intellectual and Practical Skills (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. MAT1033 Intermediate Algebra..... 3.00 B MAT-115 *TE

B: Personal/Social Resp (In Progress)
> PERSONAL AND SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY
> Complete 9 semester hours (SH) in Personal and Social
> Responsibility coursework to include:
> *Diversity or Global Literacy, 3SH
> *Responsible Ethical Leadership, 3SH
> *Personal and Social Responsibility Elective, 3SH
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Diversity or Global Literacy (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. SYG2000 Intro Sociology.......... 3.00 CR SOC-101 *TE
Responsible Ethical Leadership (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
3.. PHI-285... Ethics in Business....... 3.00 CR PHI-285 *NE
Personal and Social Responsibility Elective (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes

C: Hum Cult & Phys Wrld (Completed)
> HUMAN CULTURES AND THE PHYSICAL WORLD
> Complete 15 semester hours (SH) in Human Cultures and the
> Physical and Natural World to include:
> *Macroeconomics, 3SH
> *Microeconomics, 3SH

Student: Staff: datatel Date: 09/13/15 Page: 3
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Interdisciplinary, 9SH (Choose courses from Humanities,
> Social Sciences and/or Natural Sciences.)
Semester Hours Completed: 15.00
Macroeconomics (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. ECO2013 Prin Economics Mac....... 3.00 B ECO-111 *TE
Microeconomics (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. ECO2023 Prin Economics Micro..... 3.00 C ECO-112 *TE
Interdisciplinary (Completed)

Semester Hours Completed: 9.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. CHM1032 Chemistry and Society.... 3.00 CR CHE-103 *TE
2.. THE2000 Theatre Appreciation..... 3.00 CR THA-101 *TE
1.. BSC1008 General Edu Biology...... 3.00 B BIO-111 *TE

D: General Ed Electives (Completed)
> GENERAL EDUCATION ELECTIVES
> Complete 18 semester hours (SH).
Semester Hours Completed: 18.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. PHI2010 Intro to Philosophy...... 3.00 C PHI-101 *TE
1.. PSC1515 Energy Nat Environ....... 3.00 B NAS-105 *TE
3.. SPA-102... Elementary Spanish II.... 3.00 CR SPA-102 *NE
3.. SPA-101... Elementary Spanish I..... 3.00 CR SPA-101 *NE
3.. COS-101... Introduction to Computers 3.00 CR COS-101 *NE
1.. HUM1020 Humanities............... 3.00 A HUM-101 *TE
================================================================================
Core (27sh)
Semester Hours Completed: 24.00
Complete all 8 subrequirements:
A: Intr Finl/Mgrl Acctg (Completed)
> Complete one full year of Introductory/Principles of
> Accounting (Introduction to Financial Accounting and Intro-
> duction to Managerial Accounting)
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Group 1 (Completed)
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. ACG2021 Financial Accounting..... 3.00 B ACC-101 *TE
1.. ACG2071 Managerial Accounting.... 3.00 B ACC-102 *TE

B: Business Law (Completed)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Business Law.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. BUL4310 Legal Environ Bus........ 3.00 C LAW-201 *TE

C: Compu Lit/Intr CIS (Completed)
> Complete 3 hours in an introduction to information systems,
> introduction to computers, computer literacy, or an intro-
> ductory computing course with applications such as word pro-
> cessing, spreadsheets, and databases.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. CGS3300 Intro Info Systems....... 3.00 B- CIS-102 *TE

D: Princ of Finance (Completed)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Principles of Finance.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes

Student:Staff: datatel Date: 09/13/15 Page: 4
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2.. FIN3403 Financial Management..... 3.00 B- FIN-301 *TE

E: Prins of Management (Completed)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Principles of Management.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. MAN3025 Organization & Mgt....... 3.00 B MAN-301 *TE

F: Intro to Marketing (Completed)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Introduction to Marketing.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. MAR3023 Marketing Managemen...... 3.00 B+ MAR-301 *TE

G: Bus in Soc/Int'l Mgt (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours of business in society, introduc-
> tion to international business, international management or
> international marketing.

_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

H: Strategic Management (Pending)
> Complete 3 semester hours in Strategic Management or
> Business Policy.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. MAN4722 Strategic Management..... (3.00) --- BUS-421 *PL *DOC *TE


10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - infoe36069 - 09-13-2015

================================================================================
Specialization (18SH: 12SH must be upper level)
GPA Achieved/Needed: 2.667 / 2.000
> Complete 18 semester hours in finance courses such as small
> business finance, public budgeting and finance, capital
> budgeting management, working capital management, security
> analysis and portfolio management(investments), planning
> and budgeting, monetary and fiscal policy, fund raising
> for non-profits, etc.
>
> *At least 12 semester hours must be at the 300/400 course
> level. All courses within the Specialization must be a
> grade of C or better.*
Semester Hours Completed: 10.00
Group 1 (In Progress)
Semester Hours Completed: 7.00 Required: 12 Remaining: 5
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. FIN4502 Securities Analysis...... 3.00 B+ FIN-321 *10Y *TE
2.. FIN4303 Financial Mkts & Ins..... 3.00 C FIN-331 *10Y *TE
3.. FIN-399... Special Topics in Finance 1.00 CR FIN-399 *NE
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 2 credits
Group 2 (In Progress)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. FIN4615 Intl Banking............. 3.00 B- BAN-281 *10Y *TE
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
================================================================================
Business Electives (9sh)
> Complete 9 sh from accounting, banking, business, computer
> applications, computer information systems, finance,
> management, hotel/motel/restaurant management, insurance,
> operations management, public administration, real
> estate, law, marketing, and retailing management,
> fundraising.
Semester Hours Completed: 9.00

Student: Staff: datatel Date: 09/13/15 Page: 5
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. FIN4324 Commerical Bank Mgt...... 3.00 C- BAN-201 *TE
2.. REE3043 Real Estate Prin......... 3.00 D REE-103 *TE
2.. GEB4113 Entrepreneurship......... 3.00 D MAN-431 *TE
================================================================================
Free Electives (6sh)
> Complete 6 semester hours.
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. LIT2480 Issues in Lit & Cultr.... 3.00 A ENG-422 *TE
1.. MAC2233 Business Calculus........ 3.00 B MAT-231 *TE
================================================================================
OTHER COURSES:
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
--- ---------- ------------------------- ------- --- ---------- ---------

3 FIN-331 Financial Inst. and Mrkts 3.00 CR FIN-331 *RI*NE*DUP
2 QMB3200 App Qnt Mth Bu 3.00 C MAT-119 *TE
2 ECO3202 Applied Macroeconomi 3.00 C ECO-211 *TE
1 ACG2021L Financial Acct Lab 1.00 B ACC-299 *TE
3 SPA-201 Intermediate Spanish I 3.00 CR SPA-201 *NE
3 SPA-202 Intermediate Spanish II 3.00 CR SPA-202 *NE

2 CGS2100 Comp Appls Business 3.00 CR CAP-225 *TE
2 REA1990 Critical Think Read 0.00 CR DEC-011 *RI*TE*DEV
2 ENC1930 Essay Writing 0.00 CR DEV-001 *RI*TE*DEV
2 SLS1501 Freshman Experience 1.00 CR FEL-101 *TE
(Credits in parentheses are anticipated earned)


10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - infoe36069 - 09-13-2015

so does this mean i have a 2.667 gpa which means I have a B-?

can anyone tell me what I have left to complete?


10 years removed from school, 108 credits want to finish my business/finance degree - Prloko - 09-14-2015

infoe36069 Wrote:so does this mean i have a 2.667 gpa which means I have a B-?

can anyone tell me what I have left to complete?

You have a 2.667 GPA for TESC's graduation purposes, but you do not have a TESC GPA until you take a course.

It looks like you lost a lot of credit went unused in the transfer. That one pending course looks like they are waiting for documentation from you. Speak to an advisor to see what they need from you.

I'm curios as to how TESC would treat your courses if you switched to General Management rather than finance, if you were further along. Use the academic eval tool to see how TESC *might* treat the credit.

On the bright side, you have more credit to TECEP out of.